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« Reply #60 on: October 13, 2012, 12:18:45 AM »

They are sitting on my work bench.  My car will be back on the road at the end of November.  I'll let you know how I like them then.
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« Reply #61 on: October 13, 2012, 12:20:14 AM »

Cool I'm seriously considering ordering them ASAP cuz I just ordered a header n I'm concerned I'm gunna wreck it from excessive engine movement
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« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2012, 09:26:14 PM »

:/ you guys are talking about these right?

http://www.heeltoeauto.com/innovative-mounts-04-08-acura-tsx-cl9.html

i need all mounts, even for the tranny.... all of mine have gone to shit.
Tim, which ones would you recommend for me? 75 or 85, I plan on coupling these with the ETD....
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« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2012, 10:57:12 PM »

If you get those mounts, you won't need the etd.
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« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2012, 07:17:36 PM »

ok, what about tranny mounts? is there anything of worth? or just go OEM?
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« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2012, 07:59:29 PM »

Were it me, OEM. I don't have a built engine and rather enjoy the comfort of a non rattling interior. Had I a completely built, high HP engine, I'd go with full poly mounts.
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« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2012, 10:27:34 PM »

There aren't any real options for tranny mounts other than OEM.  The ETD is a waste of money, especially if you're getting Ingalls.  It's a pile of shit if you ask me.  The only thing that I know of for a tranny mount upgrade, is the TL or TL-S tranny mount.  Paul may know more about that than me since I never did it.

As far as the Innovative mounts go, 85A is probably a bit too stiff.  I have them in my car, and at idle my car shakes like a motherfucker.  I'm considering something different down the road so I can retain some comfort.
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« Reply #67 on: June 18, 2013, 03:09:16 PM »

Bumping this.

I have to replace my engine mounts, mainly the front and side.  The rear is still in good condition.  I am debating between OEM replacements or these TSX Innovative mounts with 75A durometer, since Tim mentioned earlier in this thread that the 60A is soft and garbage (via Paul).  Two questions.

(1) Does anyone know the approximate equivalent "durometer value" of the stock OEM, non-poly mounts?
(2) The price for a set of OEM mounts is cheaper than the full Innovative kit, obviously.  Again, I would only need the front and side, but I am considering replacing all mounts at the same time (for ease in maintenance records).  This thread mentions that the rear mount is a PITA to access and install, so that is another factor/deterent.  Since my car is stock engine-wise, would you recommend OEM replacement or "upgrade" to the Innovative mounts?  And "why?", please.

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« Reply #68 on: June 18, 2013, 09:23:09 PM »

I've done a little bit of reading up. The old style mounts had problems because of the design. It wasn't the bushings. 75a would really be too stiff for a DD. You should get the 60a instead. If they get fucked up, you can replace them.
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« Reply #69 on: June 18, 2013, 10:54:26 PM »

Thanks Tim.  So the TSX engine mounts install as direct replacements to the OEM ones?
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« Reply #70 on: June 19, 2013, 08:15:45 AM »

Yes indeed. Its essentially the same chassis and drivetrain.
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« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2015, 05:49:56 PM »

Had an interesting conversation today with a plastics specialist. I asked questions about urethane hardness (60A, 75A , etc.) and the failure of some 60A bushings. Found out that urethane looses its properties over 175°F. So considering the engine temps can be over that, urethane might not be the best material for engine mounts, rubber bushings are more durable for that application. About if 75A is more durable than 60A, under 175°F they are as durable, but considering the engine mounts application, the harder the urethane, the longer it will take to degrade and be over the point of acceptable wear, but they will fail eventually. Other thing, the softer the urethane, the more friction is has internally so it creates heat, which causes more wear.
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« Reply #72 on: February 28, 2015, 05:16:14 PM »

So I need to replace my motor mounts soon. Do I have any other options besides OEM at this point (For an i4)? I can't find anything on http://www.innovativemounts.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=12
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« Reply #73 on: February 28, 2015, 10:37:56 PM »

It's not easy to find, but they do have them on their site under the "steel mounts" section over in the left column of the page.

http://www.innovativemounts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=10751

I have these mounts in my car right now.  Hopefully they fixed the fitment issues because I had to massage mine to get them to fit properly.  Specifically the passenger side mount.  I wouldn't recommend getting anything stiffer than the 60A mounts.  I originally had the 85A and they were so stiff it shook the interior so bad I couldn't even have a conversation with the person riding shotgun.  I have the 75A now and they are a LOT better, but not necessary for anyone that has a stock engine or bolt ons.  I got mine from Heel Toe, if you don't want to order them directly from Innovative.  They're actually quite a bit cheaper from Heel Toe.

http://www.heeltoeauto.com/innovative-mounts-2004-08-acura-tsx-accord-euror-cl7-cl9-cl7-cl9-10751.html
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