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« on: April 18, 2009, 03:10:57 PM »

Guys,

I'm reviving the old R&D inquiry that another member had started over on the old G7A.  I'm currently pre-R&D with Innovative about developing a performance engine mount kit for the K series Accords.  I am going to purchase an OEM mount kit for their R&D purposes and then it will only be a matter of time before we never need to replace engine mounts again.

Just a little background on the product...These mounts will be designed with hard urethane elements and they will greatly reduce engine movement, which will decrease power losses and reduce wheel hop and driveline shock.

Judging by Innovative's other kits, they will most likely come in a range of hardness (durometer).  The hardness will determine how much vibration is transferred to the chassis and the passenger compartment.  For our purposes, the street version of the kit should suffice, while those with radical setups might opt for the race hardness.

**JUST SO YOU KNOW..this product WILL increase cabin vibration at idle and when starting out in low gears.  You will feel noticible vibration in the cabin and this may aggravate existing rattle conditions.  The vibration is already noticible to most of you already...so just fair warning...it may not change much, or it may change a bit.  If you cannot handle the increased cabin vibration and passenger discomfort, do not place your name on the list.**

The kits usually run about $350 per set.  I have not been advised on the pricing for our mounts but I'd expect them to run similarly.

I'd like to get a serious interest list going.  Since I'm organizing this list for innovative, it's going to be completely BS-free.  Only add your name to the list if you're ready and willing to drop somewhere in the vicinity of that projected cost.  If you don't have the cash, don't put your name down.  I am in the very early stages of working with Innovative on this development so don't flip out if you can't commit right now...just be advised that I'm getting the ball rolling on the project and I'd like to serve Innovative with a list of people who definitely want this product.

I will be acquiring a set of OEM mounts for Innovative within the next couple of weeks, and then I'll have them sent out for R&D.

Lets get this party started.

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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2009, 10:08:22 PM »

I'd be interested in this, but my shit's too damn stock to make it worth my while. I would be down for it in the future though, so I'm not adding my name to the list. I am, however, throwing a free bump for interest in a hell of an opportunity for us CM owners to get quality aftermarket mounts.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 10:58:51 AM »

It doesn't matter if your car is "too stock"....these mounts will probably NEVER break...which means that even if your car stays stock for the rest of its life....you'll NEVER have to replace another set of motor mounts EVER again...
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 12:00:08 PM »

LOL. This is true. But I still think my car is too damn stock for this to be worth my while. Once more engine mods are added, it WILL be worth my while.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2009, 08:08:44 AM »

what kind of timeline are we looking at for receiving these mounts?
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 11:49:14 AM »

I'm in, Race, Street whatever, tell me when and where. I've already blown through two front motor mounts and I would like to stop spending money. When, where, how much and I'm there Skip. We can even R+D it during the TSX tranny swap if you want. My cabin rattles as is with the Ingalls and other bracing materials that we put in.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 12:38:01 PM »

Icebox - The timeline is non existent at this point.  Innovative needs to approve of the project, I have to purchase a set of mounts, send them out, and they need to design, build, and produce kits.  This entire process could take anywhere from next week to never depending on Innovative's scheduling.  Innovative has not advised me as to how many people need to be on-board for them to produce kits, and I will be emailing them shortly to discuss the details of our application.  As soon as I have more details I'll post up.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2009, 02:40:51 PM »

thanks skip, if it does happen you can count me in. if they need another car to test it, i'm interested as well.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 03:50:24 PM »

I just sent an email to Innovative requesting more information; specifically the R&D process, pricing, testing, and a time line.  We'll see what they say.
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2009, 05:22:12 PM »

Hopefully you'll have better luck with this than Sean over on V6p. He tried to get his started back in December and still nothing yet.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2009, 06:05:30 PM »

I'll be letting Cham and Kieth know about this one.  I know they'll be in!
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2009, 08:27:34 PM »

I remember somebody starting an interest list but I emailed Innovative last week and seriously it was a matter of 15 minutes when I received a reply stating that all they required was a set of OEM mounts and then the process could start.  Get the word out people I want to get a big list so we can get these hotcakes made!

Innovative must know that there is interest since they have already developed a kit for the 7th gen V6 application.  I'm just psyched because my car might be an industry first Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2009, 09:11:30 PM »

They are likely going to be too stiff for me (and I'm pretty broke right now) or I'd be interested.  How do you think these will compare to having a stiffy (on the stiffest setting) in terms of vibrations?
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2009, 09:17:03 PM »

I currently have an ETD and it doesn't really up the vibration too much.  This will be a night and day experience.  You will most likely feel the engine vibration in your seats at idle.  You will also probably feel it more in the steering wheel as well.  On the up-side, you'll have smooth crisp shifting, and zero drivetrain shock.  If you shift very hard you'll probably see dashboard movement and feel shock through the cabin, but honestly....it is so worth it.  My buddy has the street mounts in his race car and for what it is....the experience is that much better.  Zero wheel hop, zero excess vibration when shifting hard...the car just moves.
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 09:37:41 PM »

what are the stiffness of these mounts? I sped read, JIC I missed it? oops re-read. So How long does the STIFF feeling present, has anyone seen near factory comfort using the improved mounts?
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