To get the attention off Jeremy, let's play a game.

[exelr8]

And actually, the CTSV that they featured was the 400hp Ls2 N/A engine.

[Mike]

Was it older or something. I drove the SC'd one and it was nuts.

[exelr8]

it was like 08 or 09 I believe, hell the 05 I drove was impressive with 400hp now you can get them with an ls6 which I am dying to drive one

[wtcii]

I was wrong in my assumption that it was a RS4. I assumed it was an older episode, 2004ish, which is when the S4 was still a 6 cylinder. They test drove a 1st gen CTS-V, 04-07, and a S4. So, the CTS has 60 more hp. If they would have done an RS4, I'm pretty sure it would have won.
1st Gen CTS-V 6.0 V8 400hp
S4 4.2 V8 340hp
RS4 4.2 V8 420hp

[exelr8]

Either way, it is still a domestic car that can hang with European trash(that some believe are worth while)

[timot_one]

I still like euros.

[slipkord]

euro>jap

[Mike]

Either way, it is still a domestic car that can hang with European trash(that some believe are worth while)

At the end of the day statements like this make you sound foolish. An RS4 is trash really? I'd venture to say you've never driven a high end euro car with statements like this. There is an very long list of "Euro Trash" that would chew that Saleen up and spit it out.

[exelr8]

Lots of cars would walk all over the Saleen. At the same time it was a stout car when it was new. And no, I've never driven a "high end" European car, nor do I care to.  From my experience with European cars, I don't like them.

[Mike]

I'd really like to see your opinion after riding in something nice. You have to consider that the euro cars most people are familiar with are the Chevy Cobalt of the European manufacturer.

[exelr8]

Ive Driven an s4 I believe 1.8t, a vr6 passat(turbo'd and stock), 1.8t passat, R32, BMW m3e46 and e36( I do kinda like the e46 but would never own one) GLi jetta both 1.8t and vr6, GTi(both as well), e46 bmw 325, and 330i, Porsche 928(somewhat impressive for a 5.0), 944, 1969 porsche 911(did Like that one until my friend totaled it at the age of 14). and SLK 230 kompressor. and probably other that I do not remember.

[Mike]

The nicest no exotic euro I've ever been in was a M6 that was fun.

[exelr8]

I forgot about the M6, I did not drive it but I got to ride in one when the first one was delivered to chattanooga to a guy on street car forums

[timot_one]

I've been impressed with the Dinan E46, 996 C4S,  996 Turbo, and S4 when I drove them.  My only complaint about euro's is that most of them are over engineered and very difficult/expensive to work on. 

[exelr8]

I've been impressed with the Dinan E46, 996 C4S,  996 Turbo, and S4 when I drove them.  My only complaint about euro's is that most of them are over engineered and very difficult/expensive to work on. 

That is my complaint, I tried to work on a vw before and it was fepic. the damn thing killed my genesis scan tool