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[ikethegreat]

I hope you guys are prepared the the hell that's about to be unleashed in the AFC now that Flacco's handcuffs have been removed!  This couldn't have come soon enough.  Christmas definitely came early this year.   

[Mike]

Are you fucking kidding me. You have more excuses than a four year old that wet the bed. You just said your money was on Houston now its I figured that would happen. Flacco is closer to Romo than he is to the elite class of qbs. It's not the coach or the coordinator. HE'S NOT A GOOD QB... End of story not even in the top 10.

[ikethegreat]

Let's see if you still feel that way after we win the Superbowl!

[gargantula99]

Lol. This is getting to be an interesting read.

[Mike]

How does it feel for you to sit and know you may very well be watching the best QB of all time. All you can do is struggle to find ways to hate and stupid shit to try to make your garbage QB sound good. Give it up buddy everything's going to be okay. We left a special seat on the bandwagon just for your. Flaccos hand cuffs have been removed does that mean the d will stop giving up TDs to back up QBs with less than two minutes left...  So tired of hearing the hate. Brady could not win another game and Flacco would never be qualified to hold his jock strap.

[Mike]

Let's see if you still feel that way after we win the Superbowl!

Superbowl are you on crack? You just lost to Charlie Batch and Kurt Cousins in consecutive weeks. You must really be an optimist because to the real world your team is closer to the toilet bowl than the superbowl.

[ikethegreat]

You say that yet did you even watch the NE vs BAL game this year?  Flacco clearly out played Brady.  Let me throw some FACTS at you since you seem to be living in some fantasy land.  

Flacco:
28/39, 382 YDS, 3 TD, 1 INT

Brady:
28/41, 335 YDS, 1 TD

Stop running your mouth when you clearly don't know what you're talking about.  It makes you look silly.  Put the Brady Koolaid down for a minute. 

[gargantula99]

Haha....mike the impailer

[Mike]

It's one game dude. One game doesn't make a career. Flacco = garbage. Brady is the front runner for MVP and your trying to tell me Flacco is better based on one game

[ikethegreat]

First off, Payton Manning will win the MVP this year, mark my words.  What he has done in Denver is very impressive.  But then again, what can you expect from the greatest QB of all time?

[ikethegreat]

Brady has an impressive resume, that's for sure.  I won't deny that.  

BUT

1.  Has he been to the playoffs every single season of his career?

2.  Has he won a playoff game in every single season of his career?

3.  Has he played in arguably the best division in the league the past several years?

4.  Has he played his entire NFL career without ever missing a game?

No he hasn't.  I'll let you take three guesses on who has!   I'll stop now, I know you're not used to hearing and digesting all these facts.  

[Mike]

Here are the facts...

Brady 319/495 3833 yards 29 tds and 4 int

Flacco 268/447 3220 yards 18 tds and 9 int

How come Everytime we are talking Flacco vs. Brady you bring up Manning... Basically admitting your boy isn't even in the conversation. I'm not going down the Manning road again its not worth my time he is irrelevant. 1 ring doesn't get you into the conversation. He's not even the best QB in his family.

[ikethegreat]

First off I didn't start comparing Brady and Flacco.  That was you.  BUT, how can you throw out the stats for the game where they actually FACED each other?  You can't just throw out the stats you don't like.  When Flacco and Brady faced each other this season, Flacco was the better QB.  There is no way around that.   There is no better measurable than that.  Head to head Flacco came out on top.  Better completion percentage, more yards, more TDs, and a better QB rating.  He beat Brady in every QB stat there is.  You have to accept that. 

I only brought up Manning because you starting talking about who's winning the MVP this year.  Eli is good but even he will admit Payton is the better QB.  The career stats prove it. 

[gargantula99]

Don't you start talking about Eli. You keep this as an AFC discussion.

[Mike]

First off I didn't start comparing Brady and Flacco.  That was you.  BUT, how can you throw out the stats for the game where they actually FACED each other?  You can't just throw out the stats you don't like.  When Flacco and Brady faced each other this season, Flacco was the better QB.  There is no way around that.   There is no better measurable than that.  Head to head Flacco came out on top.  Better completion percentage, more yards, more TDs, and a better QB rating.  He beat Brady in every QB stat there is.  You have to accept that.  

I only brought up Manning because you starting talking about who's winning the MVP this year.  Eli is good but even he will admit Payton is the better QB.  The career stats prove it.

so look at Brady vs Flacco over career. One regular season game is not a proper sample to compare. Flacco had a good game against what at the time was a very weak defense. That defense has been improving week over week. It's not the same team now..