The F-Pro Thread [update]08.04.09

[BliNx197]

Alright after a lot of research and looking at possible solutions to tune a k24a8 engine I and Paul both have decided to look into using Hondata Flashpro with a conversion harness. This will be updated as information is gathered

Plan: To use a stock k24a8 and a k20z3 harness splice into them, mate them together at the appropriate connections to have a k20z3 ECU run my entire car. After this has been done we will be connecting my Flashpro. hopefully there will be limited CELs but FlashManager comes with a Code Checker as well. But if this is a possible lost cause then I'll know and be going another route to run my Frank!


Outcome: Fail

Project Cancelled: No questions please!

Its just not feasible on a production and plug and play scale for the amount of time and money it would cost to possibly run this setup. Ill be running a different EMS on the frank, prolly Kpro and am currently in the process of acquiring one.

Thank you

[thisaznboi88]

kool!! Hopefully it works good. If it does we need someone with a k24a4 to do it. I want to add more mods and get the most of out it with a good tune.

[Skippy]

All the best of luck from my neck of the woods...I just hope that you didn't just make an $800 mistake...

[BliNx197]

No! possible $700 mistake, hondata softened the blow, and as for the a4 im not extremely familiar with all of its wiring maybe it will work but ud need to get a MAF sensor like the a8s and z3s,.. once I get the results ill post a new thread on it in conjunction with Paul,... if this bears fruit, all prpbabilities are looking positive tho, I am curious as to the range of the a8s primary o2 sensor,.. the part # is very close to the z3s but maybe that's just all primary o2 part #s I never checked it against the a4s, ill prolly do that soon.

[BliNx197]

just checked it, same o2 sensor between the a4s and a8s,.. prolly gonna need the z3s for this.

[timot_one]

At least you know that you can get the primary AFR sensor for an RSX to work.  I double checked the part numbers for the A4 and A8 and they are the exact same part.  There is some speculation that the primary AFR sensor may not be a narrow band though.  As far as I know, it's been questioned, but never proven.

[BliNx197]

yea the rsx primary has been proven to work with kpro and an a4 but those like rsx ecus are in high demand as far as I know nowones played with the z3s parts. less demand prolly which is a primary reason I've hopped all over this fpro solution, alright enough speculation, ill keep u all posted, later

[thisaznboi88]

No! possible $700 mistake, hondata softened the blow, and as for the a4 im not extremely familiar with all of its wiring maybe it will work but ud need to get a MAF sensor like the a8s and z3s,.. once I get the results ill post a new thread on it in conjunction with Paul,... if this bears fruit, all prpbabilities are looking positive tho, I am curious as to the range of the a8s primary o2 sensor,.. the part # is very close to the z3s but maybe that's just all primary o2 part #s I never checked it against the a4s, ill prolly do that soon.

no worries my accord is an auto with the MAF. Hopefully it does work out for you.

[timot_one]

If you're going to be using a Z3 ECU, it makes sense to use the primary afr sensor that would go on that car.  Go with the Civic Si primary afr sensor and see what happens.

[thisaznboi88]

Best of luck man. I really hope that it will work out with you.

[Icebox]

kool!! Hopefully it works good. If it does we need someone with a k24a4 to do it. I want to add more mods and get the most of out it with a good tune.

FPRO is designed for hondas/acuras with dbw, if you want a tunning options you should probably go with kpro and chams harness.

[BliNx197]

id say the same thing,.. but hondata has said they don't actually have control over DBW im getting the idea that the ecu just needs a signal from the tb,.. not gonna rule it out. But the z3s ecu and TB control are internal,.. oh well still got some time to wait on this one!

[BlK24a8]

Blinx have you been working on another way to hack into the a8? I have the shop I'm using looking into the kpro dual harness idea. See what they can come up with.

[CrackerTeg]

Blinx have you been working on another way to hack into the a8? I have the shop I'm using looking into the kpro dual harness idea. See what they can come up with.

I think he's still working on getting a couple of other things going to make this work. Try shooting him a PM.

[timot_one]

I've split the F-Pro and K-Pro discussion.  Please continue the F-Pro discussion in here.  I would love to see you guys provide as much information as possible so that others can come here for help if you are successful in getting F-Pro to work.  I hope that this can become as helpful and informative as the K-Pro thread for people that want to do this when you get this to successfully run the K24A8.