i'd be going nuts with both of those trip odometers (1 up top, 1 in middle) lol. other than that. looks good!
that was part of my motivation to make these changes.
However having both odometers was very very useful when testing the cluster to see over time how well the speedo signal on the s2k was calibrated to what the accord speedometer would be outputting. After running the odometers for hundreds if not over 1000 miles with less than a few miles discrepancy between the two... i realized the s2k code was good enough to reduce to one odometer. The accord odometer is chosen since it is easier to repogram and i keep my outdoor temp sensor
Having 4 trip computers (Accord A and B and S2k A and B) was neat and extremely unecessary and ridiculous.
also- the S2k odometer will be BLACKED OUT and no longer used.
Last night I tore apart my s2000 cluster to built a version with smoother interface and added functionality.
Here was the original product from my old thread:
It came out okay... but the fabrication of the bezel suffered from the extra displays for AFR and the accord mileage display at the top. I'm sure nexson could have made a beautiful bezel without a problem... but these components made the design tough for me to work with. Besides that, since the original color I painted it didnt flow at all with the dash I knew I would have to resand and paint it anyway. Instead I've decided to remake the entire thing.
Here's a quick sketch in MS paint: The most noticeable changes are moving the AFR display and the accord odometer INTO the s2k cluster, replacing the spots of some of the indicators like check engine, door open, etc. those indicators willbe moved into the bezel in the grey areas between gauges. some indicators will remain in the s2k cluster (i didnt draw every indicator obviously)
I will also incorporate my remote display for my valentine one radar detector into the cluster. It will be completely unnoticeable until activated by radar.
Finally, the defi guages will be recessed into the fiberglassed bezel.. so they will be flush with it, and not extend out due to the lip around the gauge face.
Electronically, the cluster backlighting will be reworked with LEDs. instead of my old red/white scheme for the RPMs... I will have an "active" lighting system. a microchip will read the engine speed... and change the backlighting to yellow at around 5000 rpm and to red at 6000.
The wiring will be completely redone, reducing the number of plugs between the cluster and the accord from 7 (old design), down to 4.
Finally, I plan to incorporate the entire conversion box i made INTO the s2k cluster housing, eliminating the extra box.
this project will be completed by the end of summer when law school resumes. 3 1/2 months to go!
Progress pictures will start this weekend as I intend to keep on this project almost daily.
LEDs have been ordered and I am looking for a PIC programmer that can work with smaller chips than what I was using before.
i really dont know yet if ill make it over there... if i do it wouldnt be until 6 or 630 at best bc i'll be at school all day. going on almost no sleep right now since yesterday and i have a 12 hour day to work tomorrow =P and most of the day sunday =PP
you do NOT want to put gauges below your line of sight or off to the side too far because it will be distracting during driving and downright dangerous to look at the gauges while driving. and you'll probably get tired of waiting for the AC to turn on with the metra kit. have nexson fab you a gauge pod like ryanns above, or the single pod he made me that lead up to ryann's double pod the steering column pods are nice too... i saw that double pod in person and for me it blocks the view of the gauge cluster too much but it's still a good location overall.
you could do what i did... remote wire the 3 number display for the AEM gauge... bury the gauge itself under the dash and just mount the numbers. the green/yellow/red lights are pretty much worthless if you know what you're looking at in terms of AFR numbers
if you are completely stock then yes theyre useless.
if you have an engine build or major engine work, they are absolutely not useless even for a naturally aspirated engine.
I'm N/A and i have boost/vacum (obviously just reads the vacum side), oil pressure, oil temp, and fuel pressure (monitor the external FPR installed). the most "useless" gauge there is probably the boost/vacum, however knowing the amount of vacum is beneficial for some parts of tuning the engine.
theyre all good gauges to have to be able to catch a problem relatively early or just keep better tabs on how everything is running.