The K-Pro Thread

[BliNx197]

Yea I tried to get that point across too! This isnt the type of setup thats gonna be mailed and plugged in. For myself I decided hell my engine is already at the no return (to stock) point and I dont plan to sell this car anytime soon so I may as well hardwire it in. So this isnt exactly reversible, atleast not easily.

[CrackerTeg]

That's fine with me. I have no intentions of ever selling this car. Hence my plans to "paint" my car differently. The cleaner everything runs, the better it is IMO. Besides, I like the idea of one ECU to run my car because it came that way from the factory. No offense to the dual ECU guys. But like I said before, this would be MUCH later on.

[Icebox]

paul, im goin to start gathering parts to accomplish in my ride. any additional suggestions or tips before i start the spending spree.

[BliNx197]

Get the 04-05 TSX IM so you can use a k24a4 TB. Hmm,.. Also get all your parts in the correct year, 02-04 RSX Engine Dash Harness and Gauges so the project will go much smoother for you than it has for me

[timot_one]

What's the tally for the cost of everything?  I realize that this isn't a plug and play application, but I wonder if there is any difference in operation from this set up and the dual set up that I am running.  I know your goal was to simplify everything down to one ECU, but do you think the trade off is worth it?  

I know that neither is a "seamless" solution, but it seems that there's a negative stigma about running a dual ECU set up.  I guess I'm wondering what the problem is with the dual ECU set up?  It seems that I'm constantly defending something that works, to people that have never even seen it or used the dual ECU kpro set up.  I'm not knocking what you are doing, but it seems to be a much more elaborate and complicated alternative to run one ECU.  We all know that the more elaborate, the greater chance there is for something to fail.  I can guarantee that if you got in my car, you wouldn't know I was running kpro if I didn't tell you first.

[NVA-AV6]

paul, im goin to start gathering parts to accomplish in my ride. any additional suggestions or tips before i start the spending spree.

1. Have a real goal
2. Find out what that goal intails (parts labor reality)
3. Check your budget then add 10%-20% to cover BS
4. If 3 is good, move forth, if not see step 1

[NVA-AV6]

What's the tally for the cost of everything?  I realize that this isn't a plug and play application, but I wonder if there is any difference in operation from this set up and the dual set up that I am running.  I know your goal was to simplify everything down to one ECU, but do you think the trade off is worth it?  

I know that neither is a "seamless" solution, but it seems that there's a negative stigma about running a dual ECU set up.  I guess I'm wondering what the problem is with the dual ECU set up?  It seems that I'm constantly defending something that works, to people that have never even seen it or used the dual ECU kpro set up.  I'm not knocking what you are doing, but it seems to be a much more elaborate and complicated alternative to run one ECU.  We all know that the more elaborate, the greater chance there is for something to fail.  I can guarantee that if you got in my car, you wouldn't know I was running kpro if I didn't tell you first.

The biggest knock I have heard form people that have the dual ECU setup is lack of idle control and having to run a 1000-1200 rpm base idle to keep from stalling when running AC or turning the steering wheel or turning on headlights.


Now that I have done this once it can be made pretty plug & play with only about 4-6 splices into the stock wiring. Blinx, your car could easily be returned to stock ops, I left all stock connectors intact.

[neoryan7]

Just making sure the 03 accord 4cyl auto has a countershaft vss? Is that the gear looking thing on the wheel bearings?

[k24cm_5]

Thank ou so much all that info.i wish you guys lived out here in LA to help me out with this just incase theres any problems.the thing is that there isnt too many people out there that are willing to do the work on our accord so its hard to find someone that is realiable and trust worthy.
but again thank you again

[CrackerTeg]

What's the tally for the cost of everything?  I realize that this isn't a plug and play application, but I wonder if there is any difference in operation from this set up and the dual set up that I am running.  I know your goal was to simplify everything down to one ECU, but do you think the trade off is worth it?  

I know that neither is a "seamless" solution, but it seems that there's a negative stigma about running a dual ECU set up.  I guess I'm wondering what the problem is with the dual ECU set up?  It seems that I'm constantly defending something that works, to people that have never even seen it or used the dual ECU kpro set up.  I'm not knocking what you are doing, but it seems to be a much more elaborate and complicated alternative to run one ECU.  We all know that the more elaborate, the greater chance there is for something to fail.  I can guarantee that if you got in my car, you wouldn't know I was running kpro if I didn't tell you first.

The biggest knock I have heard form people that have the dual ECU setup is lack of idle control and having to run a 1000-1200 rpm base idle to keep from stalling when running AC or turning the steering wheel or turning on headlights.

What you said there Paul, I didn't know.

Tim, I really only have a problem with the dual ECU setup because of the dual ECU. I've replaced ECUs before due to failure and its always been one ECU. Throw an extra one into the mix, and it complicates things. I've gotten accustomed to vehicles running a single ECU. A second one is just a curve ball to me and more parts to fail. If I can do what Paul and Bryan did which seems more complicated than a plug and play dual ECU to simplify my life later, I'm going to do it. I guess I'd rather have the difficulty up front instead of later on at an inconvenient time. I hope I explained my thinking.

[NVA-AV6]

Just making sure the 03 accord 4cyl auto has a countershaft vss? Is that the gear looking thing on the wheel bearings?

No, it is the three wire sensor on the front of the transmission, the ones at the wheels are ABS sensors.

[Skippy]

...I'm too drunk to be reading this...

[CrackerTeg]

...I'm too drunk to be reading this...

I wish I could say the same.

[k24cm_5]

.....same here ^

[Skippy]

well....get to it, fuckers!