Check Engine Light Codes Discussion

[timot_one]

I recall being told not to use Bosch O2 sensors because they can be kind of "buggy" with Honda ECU's.  Not really the kind of thing you want to be cheap about if it affects how your motor runs (which it does).  You may be better off to bite the bullet and get the proper sensor from Honda.  If you want, I can get you in contact with a few people that work at a Honda dealership that get parts for people on k20a.org.  They're stand up guys and will hook up a deal if they can. 

[Mike]

OEM  made by a company called NTK? They are a little more expensive but, the part number should be 24258. I can get you one for $162.99 shipped to your door. PM me if you want to go that route.

[HEcreated487]

@ Tim- Thanks!!  Yes, if you wouldn't mind PM me about how to obtain the parts for a possibly more inexpensive price, that would be great and much appreciated.  It seems that my best option would be to just buy the OEM O2 sensor for the KL engine ...

@Mike- Thanks for the info!  So this is the exact OEM part number (36532-RAD-L12 SENSOR, OXYGEN), not the Bosch one???

[Mike]

Bosch is OEM equivalent but, maybe not the best quality I believe NTK makes the OEM part, and that would make that the same part as OEM for a lower price. Maybe Tim has other info on that???

[timot_one]

If you're a member of k20a.org, PM rbsjnh.  His name is Rich, and he works for Autofair Honda in Manchester, NH.  If you're not a member, I'll PM him to get an email address.  I've purchased parts from Autofair Honda and I've bought parts from Rich privately and he's a stand up guy.

Sorry to take business away from ya Mike.

[NVA-AV6]

I get my Denso O2 sensors from RockAuto.com, the (Denso, NGK, NTK are all the same company in Japan)

[HEcreated487]

@Mike- Thanks for the additional info.  Just to clarify, you would be able to source the OEM equivalent NTK part #24258 for $162.99 shipped to my mailing address, correct?

@Tim- I will PM you sometime for the email address to rbsjnh (Rich) on k20a.org, as I believe I do not have an account on that site (wil need to double check).  I am interested to see what type of pricing he has access to.

@Paul- Thanks for the info.  Would you happen to know the Denso part number on Rock Auto equivalent to the OEM part number (36532-RAD-L12 SENSOR, OXYGEN)?  I will be doing more research as well

Thank you very much gents!!

[Mike]

Denso part number is 234-4363 I can get that one for $162.99 also. Shipping is included assuming you live in US. Rockauto.com has the Denso one pretty cheap. I personally have had better luck when selling NTK to Honda Owners. Less issues in my expirence.

[HEcreated487]

Thanks Mike.  Denso #234-4363 is selling for $107.79 on Rock Auto; fairly attractive.  Also noticed that the NTK #24258 is selling for $162.79 on Rock Auto, which is similar to the price you mentioned earlier.  I am inclined to purchase the NTK based on the responses you all have provided ...... Does the NTK price include Hawaii??  Cause that's where it would be shipped to  

[Mike]

I sent you a PM as to not further clutter this thread.

[HEcreated487]

PM responded to.  Thanks Mike!!

[CrazyCreashunz]

So I get a CEL tonight... code P1009, here is what I found:

P1009 has to do with the VTC sensor. (Which is on the motor next to the power steering pump. To get to it, you need remove the power steering pump.) It says to clean the VTC sensor, drain your oil and clear the code. Low oil.

What I did: Checked my oil and guess what is is almost bone dry! I don't get how. My car sits all week. Checked my spot and no oil leakage or residue on the ground. Guessing my engine is burning oil....? What would cause the engine to burn all the oil?

I am going to Honda to pick up oil/filter tomorrow morning and taking it to a shop to have it done. I will also have them clean that sensor and further diagnosis any related issues.

Edit: Also found,

DTC P1009 = Variable Valve Timing Control (VTC) Advance Malfunction

The variable valve timing control (VTC) system controls the phase of the intake camshaft. It uses oil pressure to operate the VTC actuator so the valve timing is optimized, depending on driving conditions. The ECM monitors the phase control command and the actual timing of the camshaft by using the camshaft position (CMP) sensor A. If an over-advanced camshaft phase, compared to the directed value, continues, or when the camshaft phase is otherwise abnormal, a malfunction is detected and a DTC is stored in the ECM.

It can be an oil pressure issue--ensure the oil level is correct and that there is no sludging. Sludging can be disasterous on VTEC engines. Ensure the proper oil, viscosity, and filter are being used. Another common problem are VTEC solenoids going bad, which is a job best left for the dealer to repair.

For VTEC engines, I only recommend full-synthetic engine oil. Depending on the year of the Accord, it will be SAE 5W-20 or SAE 5W-30. These are very sophisticated engines, where the best lubricants are called for:

[gargantula99]

[Arielit0oo]

Lol this applies to me. Last week, I was driving home and all of a sudden, I see the oil indicator flashing and I'm like =O !!!! Rush to a gas station and put 4 qts inside... I was so embarrassed with myself lol

[timot_one]

I keep seeing this more and more on K24 Accords actually.  I had the same issue with my Accord motor.  If it's not leaking, oil is either getting past the rings or the valve stem seals.