Faith's Brian Crower Build (UPDATE!!!!)

[Knocturnal84]

The car feel alot better now and any throttle position.

Some Problems that restricted power is the exhaust and the F-IC itself because it can only retard time and the Automatic tranny.

Numebers are 154WHP and 145WTHQ. not the numbers i was hoping for but if the F-IC could have advanced timing the numbers will go up more.

Velocity Trend Guestimated that the motor makes about 180hp now

i have to scan in the sheet so that you see the dyno

[thisaznboi88]

dang I was hoping u bust 160-170whp. anyways the car faster then stock its just that the AT is holding it back.

[Knocturnal84]

that and the timing. Exhaust is going to be fixed this week. Steve asked me if i ever looked into the Greddy E-Manage Ultimate for time advancement. The tuner also told me that the car wants to make more but the FIC is holding back being that it cant advance the timing. He also told me that 160whp to 170whp is very much possible with the cams.   My first run was 137whp 130wthq

[timot_one]

I would say that emanage would be a step backwards from the FIC.  You sure you don't want to give kpro a try?

[Knocturnal84]

Skip advised me to go manual first befor trying k pro. So i will start from there.

The guy that tuned the car was called in by Steve Soto as a favor to tune my car. He is a pit crew chief for a NHRA TEAM. He made the throtttle response reallly great at every point.

Right now i am going to source out parts for a manual swap because the engine feel so good but the tranny isnt putting it to the wheels

[timot_one]

If you need a transmission, Skippy has 2 sitting in his garage for sale.  I'd talk to neoryan about running kpro on an AT.  I'm like 99% sure he has an AT and he's been running kpro longer than I have.

[thisaznboi88]

GL on the swap now. Its a never ending story of mod. lol Mt then K pro should get you up to where u want to be. Get a 6spd it makes driving more fun.

[Knocturnal84]

going to fix the exhaust and see what happens there first. They advised me to do that first

[rjp6262]

nice numbers! i could see the trans holding you back a bit. i would assume that if you did the exhaust, and trans swap you'd be in the 160 range. maybe even 170. then even higher with K-Pro!

btw di you have a stock exhaust?

[Skippy]

Are you NUTS? Not to mention on an untuned motor.  Dude why do you have to go and do something that dumb? You're so much better than that.

13.3 is leaner than you should be, which is expected.  You should be a full point lower...Not like you're pushing 15 or something crazy like that but... please don't do something to get your license ripped...

[BliNx197]

What are we talking about here? the 130 mph, cuz I dont believe that on a stock k24 MT at WOT much less an untuned k24 with aftermarket valvetrain, and dont you mean rich Skip? Especially at only part throttle?

[Skippy]

and how far do you think his pedal was down to hold 130? Skippy thinks pretty much WOT....in which case he would be running lean at 13.3.

The only time you should be able to definitely read a UEGO is at WOT, that's the only time you can get a steady reading without much fluctuation.  If he plainly saw 13.3, he was at WOT.  If it was fluctuating too much, he would have had to say he saw 13.3 as an average.

Stock K24A4's run close to 12.6 at WOT with a small variance.

[neoryan7]

Hondata says that on NA cars WOT should be tuned to 13.2 area for best performance.

And yes I have Kpro on my auto for the past 2 years. It would be awesome if could use Kpro Sean. Definately up near the 200Hp because with bolt ons on a NA accord nets 160HP/TQ.

[timot_one]

I believe the ideal AF ratio is actually 12.2 WOT, from my research on Hondata.  I'd have to look into that again, but 13.2 seems kinda lean to me.  Do you have a link to that article Ryan?

[Knocturnal84]

12.2 at WOT is pretty much what had befroe the cam install