EliteCM.net

Real Name: David Bruce
Ride: 2013 Volvo XC70 T6
Color: Seashell
Engine: t6
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Mods Installed:

Engine/Drivetrain:
190whp / 160wthq tuned by InlinePRO
KPRO
K24a8 Block
K24a2 Ported and Polished Head
RSX type S valve springs
TSX Rods
09 TSX Pistons - 11:1 Compression Ratio
RDX Injectors
Custom SRI By NVA-AV6
RSX-S Throttle Body
Ported TSX intake manifold modified for the RSX-S Throttle Body
Hondata Heatsheild
UR underdrive pulleys
DC Sports Ceramic Header
Custom Catback w/ Magnflow 14829 muffler
Neuspeed Short Shift Kit
Corpsport Aluminum Shifter Bushings
Ingalls Stiffy Torque Dampener
Stainless Steel Clutch Line
Stage 4 Competition Clutch
RSX Type S Flywheel
OBX LSD
Powder Coated Wrinkle Red Valve Cover by NVA-AV6

Suspension/Brakes/Wheels:
Konig Feathers 17x7.5 +45
Yokohama Avid 235/45/17
Tein SS Coilovers w/ Pillowball Mount
Ingalls Rear Camber Kit
TL-S Front Sway Bar
TL-S Rear Sway Bar
V6 Upper Strut
EBC Green Stuff Pads
EBC Slotted Rotors
Stainless Steel Brake Lines

Exterior:
35% Tint on Sides and Rear
70% Tint on Windshield
OEM Decklid Spoiler
Shaved Accord Badge
Grillcraft Grill w/ OEM Emblem

Lighting:
Hella 9005 & 9006 bulbs
Inspire Foglights w/ OEM Wiring
Parking Light Mod W/ DRL delete

Interior:
RSX-S Gauges
Kenwood Excelon DDX-8017 HU in Lower Cubby
Metra Upper Dash Kit
AEM Oil Pressure Gauge
AEM Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge
AEM Voltage Gauge
2 10" Kicker CVR Subs
Momo Anatomic Shift Knob
Momo Shift Boot

Mods Waiting for Installation:
JRSC
Black Vinyl Roof
Megan Racing Test Pipe
Tsunami Battery Terminals

Future Mods and Plans:
I'm sure this list will grow.

Car History:
Bought it in August of 07, addicted to modding it ever since! I have to give a big thank you to Paul (NVA-AV6) for his hard work on the engine build and kpro conversion and give props to Blinx for having a big enough wallet when he financed the first kpro'ed 7.5 gen

Pictures:
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welcome to elite, your pics are awfully small thou

Welcome to the elite man. x2 on the small pics.

still trying to figure that one out, but thanks!

Nice whip man... how you liking those pullies?
debating getting a set myself....

Welcome to ECM

well worth the investment, it improves the previous mods youve made.

welcome!!  another silver sedan...WOOT!!  i went to college at liberty in lynchburg for a year

if you enjoyed it cool, otherwise i feel sorry for you.. but thanks for the WOOT!! silver is the best color imo.

welcome to elite!!

Welcome to EliteCM.net

Welcome dude.

Bout time ya made a profile Icebox! Ya got a nice list of mods. You should come to one of our squad meets sometime! I used to go to school in Southern VA so its not too bad of a drive

Welcome to the Elite.

Thanks for the warm welcome.


I plan on it, I will be attending the meet in Richmond at the end of May and I'm open to any other meets within a few hour drive.

Welcome to ECM David.

updated pics

Dude, do you have a perscription for that tint???? The cops must love you....

yea, i do, but i still get pulled over all the time. i love it when they see that they cant ticket me!

Looking good. How's your K&N intake doing for you?

whats your thoughts on the V6 upper strut bar on yur I4?

would like to do it eventually... that V6 bar looks alot stiffer and thicker than any of the strut tower bars i've seen for sale....

looks good but do you really need your ipod displayed like that? no offense but its stickin out like a sore thumb. just hide it in the glovebox or the center armrest

im happy with it, it works very well with the tsx im and tsx throttle body.


it works just like any other strut but is a better value, plus i like the honda theme.


its personal preference, i like the easy access. it allows me to change what im listen to without having to take my eyes of the road for very long.

That's cool. I'm getting the TSX IM soon too, so hopefully that'll make it better (can't do TSX TB ). How was the difference when you installed your TSX IM? Did it make the intake any louder? lol

I'm also pretty pleased with my K&N intake... the heatshield can get pretty hot sometimes, so at least I know that it's doing its job! I wonder what kind of metal they used for that... I may mod myself an even better heatshield, lol.

not that i noticed, maybe at wot. let me know what u do about the heatshield and if it helps at all.

Eh, I was just reading online about other people doing the same thing I'm thinking about doing. Let's just say it'll be a waste of time.

I still think that making some sort of scoop under the drive side fender could improve the airflow a little bit... Theoretically it makes sense. Instead of the air having to go throw the grill and swerving around the radiator and such to get to the intake, it could just come up from under the car and go straight to the intake. Call me crazy, lol.

i think it would be interesting to see but i dont know if the time spent would be worth the performance gain, not unless you had forced induction and in that case you would have a custom intake anyway.

It's a fun thing to do, though, lol. I looked underneath where the fender extended to the bumper cover, and noticed that there's 2 fairly sized holes, and a bunch of vented holes, but they were facing the wrong direction. I'm thinking if I just cut that whole fender extension off, the mud flap on the front of the tire would push the air upwards.

Then again, like you said, it may not be worth it. Oh well. Maybe I'll just stick a 12v fan in front of the filter, lol. At the very least, the heat shield is sure working, because the engine area is a hell of a lot hotter than where the filter is. The intake pipe was pretty hot, however. I'll have to give that heat tape a shot.

Sorry for jacking your profile thread to post my mod ideas, btw, lol.

Its all good. Happy to share info.

Thanks!

kpro acquired

Congrats Dave!

Wait a second, I thought that an 06-07 CM Kpro solution was still not available, how did you manage to pull that off?

It won't be installed for some time due to finances but basically tricking the car into thinking its a rsx type s with wiring and sensor mods. Nva-av6 figured it out. Blinx is already successufly running it. I'm planning on completing the install after a rebuild on the motor.

Oh I thought you were using some other method other than Blinx's.

Are you converting the DBW system?

Yep.its necessary since the type s uses a cable driven tb. I'm using a type s tb in the conversion.

Build Complete!

congrants on the build!! now lets see some pictures

Nice! Pics please!

I bet it cost you a pretty penny to do all those conversions.

Pics will be posted tomorrow and it was worth every penny, I've been collecting parts since september so I'm happy that's all done.

Good update David.  Glad I got to meet you a few weeks ago.  I can't wait to see pics of the finished product.

Thanks everyone, pics updated.

What?  Two pics?!?!   We want moar!!!

I've got some work to do with the bezel for the gauges and the exterior is desperately in need of a detail so there will be more but I leave on business trip tomorrow so more photos will be posted next week.

Looks stock to me. I call bullshit!

Haha. Next time your down here we can run the cars and let you find out the hard way.

Can I join in too?

Haha! Next time I'm over there, I'll be back from overseas and my car will be far from stock.

Can I run my measly V6 too, ........

Lol

Why the hell not Paul.  Let's make it interesting.  Just don't put the M90 back on it and we should be okay.

I am in agreement. Put the M90 on, and I won't count your performance as anywhere near fair.

Okay, but you will at least need to deal with a J37.....

Oh Damn I would like to see this match up....where's Kev :lol:

I'll consider it.  

Once I get this baby tuned, its on!

Sweet.  This is gonna be fun.

You should see what I just posted in the K series engine performance forum under the Turbo 101 thread.

My tq will leave you drooling while you are spooling, LOL

Hahaha.  Paul, you're quite the poet.  That sounds like some badass lyrics to a trance tune!  We've totally jacked David's thread though.  Aren't you back from whatever it is you were doing?  Where the hell are those pics?

No, I'm in kansas city still. I fly back to nova on thursday night and drive home friday morning. I can go ahead and take some photos of the interior even though its not finished and won't be untill mid next week.

interior pics posted

I'm loving the analog AEM gauges.  I really want those.

yea, the styling is very important and i liked the way they complemented the type -s gauges

Those gauges didn't exist when I was doing all my motor stuff last year.  I know the analog gauges are more expensive, but I think they look better than the digital gauges.  Looks great David.  I hope to be back down there to take a ride this summer.

when i got mine, they were priced the same as the digital ones, thanks and let me know when you can make it down.

Loving the new interior you got goin on Dave!
When is the next time you're up this way? Hit me up when you're out here next time!

i will be up at inline pro on the 8th for tuning. you should come by while its getting done, i will arrive around 1130 that saturday morning.

the car is now tuned and producing 190whp and 160wthq. kind of disappointed with the numbers but not the performance. sooooo much more power on the butt dyno and thats what counts imho.

What kind of dyno did the shop have?  Some dynos are known for reading lower numbers than others (i.e. - Mustang Dyno's).

it was a dynojet

hmmm those are good numbers to me but i knew you went in with higher expectations like me.

I'm trying to rack my memory, but 190whp seems a little low. On K20.org I remember people throwing down ~230whp with a K24A4 block and K20A head with TSX pistons/rods.  I see you used a K24A2 head...but I think the K24A2 and K20A heads are nearly identical.

the k20a2 head flows more but i had the k24a2 head ported so they should flow the same, i think the difference in cams is what hurt me and that is something that i planned on changing at some point anyways. the work that i have to done to the motor so far is really preparation for the main goal of being supercharged but that wont be happening anytime soon due to financing.

I was reading through tsx forums lately and that seems to be the same power that they are putting down with a intake header and exhaust. I have a full TSX  swap coming this summer and i plan on getting k pro for it too. Also i love how the BrianCrowers feel so going with the stage 2 Turbo cams for my next project

I dunno...I've been referencing this guys build for a couple years now...his build produced 234whp/185wtq (dynojet) 247whp/199wtq dynapack.

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13887 (http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13887" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

I've seen that before and it has some usefull info.

just purchased a jrsc, once i get some additional parts and the holidays pass, it will be installed.

I got your text earlier today.  I didn't see what cam gear you have on your intake cam, but here's a pretty decent read.  Check out the part about supercharging under the forced induction part too.  I have a set of ITR and Type S cams if you're interested.

http://www.hondata.com/tuning_k24a2_tsx_engine.html (http://www.hondata.com/tuning_k24a2_tsx_engine.html)

good read, paul machined the intake cam gear when i did my motor build so im good to go there. how much would you let those cams go for?  the other thing im unsure of is whether or not to switch back to the stock pulleys or leave the ur underdrive pulleys on.

What size is the blower pulley?  I switched back to the stock pulleys and then ended up getting an 09 Accord crank pulley.  I have a 3" blower pulley.  As long as you don't spin the blower above 16k, you should be fine.  I've heard of guys that have been spinning them up to 18k.  I'm not sure if I would do that without replacing/upgrading the bearings first.  Above 16k and you're going to want to invest in some cooling upgrades too.  It may be worth it if you got an aftercooler before you install the sc.

not sure about the pulley size, either 3.5 or 4, we will see. as far as aftercooler goes, this is the ep3 kit so i wont have the option of the aftercooler. probably just install a water meth kit later on.

Damn.  That sucks man.  I guess there's no way to fabricate a plate with an aftercooler core like they have for the Comptech.  Maybe you can find a DC5 IM for your JRSC.  I was just looking at the site for the guy that made my first aftercooler, and it looks like he makes one for a civic, but it's not chassis specific.  You should check it out and get a hold of him about it.  Here's his site.  

http://mercracing.net/products-page/aftercoolers/basic-jackson-racing-aftercooler-kit-with-rule-pump-rsx-tsx-civic/ (http://mercracing.net/products-page/aftercoolers/basic-jackson-racing-aftercooler-kit-with-rule-pump-rsx-tsx-civic/)

It looks like he even made it into the Hondata tech articles.

http://www.hondata.com/techscintercooler.html (http://www.hondata.com/techscintercooler.html)

i may end up doing that down the road and not on the intial install, but thanks for the info.

No problem man.  I'd see what it entails with the aftercooler install though.  It may be better for you to wait and install that at the same time.  Sometimes installing the aftercooler is a bitch and you have to take apart a ton of stuff.  I'm not sure how the JR manifold is, but the CT one is a motherfucker to get off with the motor in the car.

the jr manifold for the ep3 sits much closer to the engine and should be easy to install with the motor in the car.

Good to know.  I'm guessing it doesn't have that removable bottom plate like the DC5 manifold does?  I know that's the reason why it's damn near impossible to install with the manifold on the motor in the car. 

i dont believe so but i will upload some photos once it arrives.

the supercharger arrived while i was at home for lunch, the manifold is very compact and mainly just adapts the blower to the head. it wouldnt stick out any more than the rbb manifold does. my only concern is if it will interfere with any other components such as power steering.

Hmmmm.  I have no idea.  I forgot about the ep3 not having a power steering pump.

i guess worst case scenario....bye bye power steering.

Worst case scenario would be that you swap over to an electric power steering pump from a MR2.  All you really need is 12v and ground to the pump with a relay that's switched on when your car is in run.  Either that, or you can get the DC5 manifold.

what would be the estimated cost to do that ehps conversion?

I'm not sure.  I know that the biggest cost would be the pump and a mounting bracket fabricated.  Other than that, you'll need to convert your lines or get adapters for the pump.  Karcepts makes a mount and a line with the adapters.  Here are the links:

http://www.karcepts.com/shop/product.php?id_product=51 (http://www.karcepts.com/shop/product.php?id_product=51)
http://www.karcepts.com/shop/product.php?id_product=52 (http://www.karcepts.com/shop/product.php?id_product=52)

...and here's the link of their install:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showpost.php?p=117238&postcount=1 (http://www.k20a.org/forum/showpost.php?p=117238&postcount=1)

Here's a few threads on k20a for the EHPS conversion:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1597 (http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1597)
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=58599 (http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=58599)
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=57308 (http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=57308)

ive been reading up on it today, seems like it would be more cost effective to just order another manifold from moss.

Very true.  I've been considering doing the conversion to free up some power.  In the same respect, I have also been looking into an electric a/c compressor conversion from a (ughhhhh) Prius.

that sounds like an interesting idea, but the parts are pretty expensive. how would you integrate that into the existing ac system.

Essentially, it would take the place of your mechanical a/c compressor, which is belt driven, with an electrical a/c compressor.  The basic idea of the pious a/c compressor and the mr2 ps pump is to reduce parasitic losses.  It's the same principle with running an electric water pump.  The parasitic losses from spinning the alternator to generate the electricity to power the pumps is much less than if you were spinning the mechanical accessories.  At least there's a kit to switch to an electrical water pump, but it's like $600-700 with the block off plate and other crap.

I wish I had the money to swap out the mechanical accessories with electrical versions.  Then at that point, all I would be running with the crank is the oil pump, alternator, and blower. 

Ok, I see the PS pump to electric since it always pulls "some" hp, not much unless turning at low speeds. Now the AC is a complete waste, when the compressor in not engauged it has the same parasidic loss of a idler pulley (NONE!).

But what if it's a hot day Paul?   :rofl:

How about I just give you a hot pile of shit to eat........

hahahahahaha

ROFL!!!!

finally got around to taking a photo........

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You already pissed in my corn flakes, so go right ahead Paul.  Hahahaha.

David, is your manifold like this?

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this is what it will look like

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Badass man.  I can't wait to see the results from this.  SC'ed K24 Accords are starting to pop up more and more now.  I think you'll be #3 or #4 at this point.  Definitely the first JRSC kit I've seen on an Accord.

just ordered some transmission parts: competition clutch stage 4, rsx-s flywheel and an obx lsd!

Hurry up and slap that blower on! Slacker.

yea yea, it will happen at some point but i need more parts to make it. and i just bought a house so money is tight.  when i do, i will still be faster than the wagon your gonna get  :P

You have pm.

Good stuff David. I'd consider the EM1 master cylinder and a SS braided clutch line with your new tranny set up.

Also, don't forget to order new bearings for your diff.

already have the ss clutch line. where would i find the bearings for the lsd?

Honda.  The part numbers is 91005-PPS-003 and you'll need 2 of them.  I think they're about $30-35 a piece.

thanks didnt know if it was an oem part that i needed or not.

Yeah.  It's not a big deal.  I know Paul would have told you that anyway.  Just figured it might help for you to have the parts on hand instead of Paul having to order them.

Thanks Timmy, I already told him a couple times to get new bearings, shaft seals and main shaft seal for the trans......

The seals are a damn good idea. I'll get part numbers later tonight when I get back to my hotel tonight.

Here are the transmission seal part numbers.  You will need one of each.  They shouldn't cost you more than $20-25.

91206-PHR-003
91216-PG1-005
91205-PL3-B01

good looking out!

That's how I roll.

clutch just arrived in the mail yesterday, should have the the lsd and flywheel by the end of the week.

Just got my car back from Paul (NVA-AV6) yesterday, and he did excellent work once again.  The new clutch, flywheel & lsd feel great despite the fact that I havent yet gotten to really test them out. Damn break in periods!  The Clutch grabs so much more quickly than stock.  I really didnt notice much difference with the differential yet but in a couple hundred miles I will truly test it out and report back.

Which clutch did you go with again?  Did you have Paul do the modification on the clutch fork?

competition clutch stage 4. clutch fork? not sure about that, maybe he did or didnt. dont know but it drives great thus far.

Yeah, I shimmed his pivot point.

That's what I figured.  I've seen a lot of issues with aftermarket clutches and pretty much everyone shims their pivot points now.

Hello to the new Volvo and accepting lowball offers on the Honda.

$20!!

congratulations on your new whip

Ha! You went soccer mom. Ha!

Tim, fuck off! reasonable lowballs only!

Z, this soccer mom will smoke you.

If that's the case, I have my "soccer mom" RDX if you wanna go.  ;)

Still faster. Bring it!

 :D
On a more serious note, congrats on the new hwip. I'll also top Tim's offer by a pack of gum.

Whats an acceptable low ball offer?

Blue book is 8,000.  Dealer offered me 4,900 for a trade which I immediately turned down.  Willing to accept less than blue book but that is up to you to decide what to offer.  I will say I want it gone soon.

How many miles on her body/motor? Does the RSX cluster fit well?

total miles are approximately 109k motor was built with 52k on the body. There are some slight gaps with the cluster but if you have any fiberglassing skills it should be an easy fix.