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Due to all the CAI/SRI threads that are basically the same thing, I have merged all these topics into one thread.  Please post any of your questions, comments, or advice in here instead of creating a new thread from now on.

Hey all,

Are there any advantages to removing the intake resonator if I have a SRI?

Thanks!

Jon.

Actually, yes. It'll allow more air to be drawn in from the inner fender area as opposed to being blocked off. Besides, it's dead weight now.

Yea i took mines off it was just taken up space

In anticipation of my tax refund, I'm thinking of pulling this country out of depression by spending some $$$ lol!

I'd like to do a CAI and maybe a TSX IM at the same time.  I'm thinking of going with AEM simply because of their dryflow filter and the quality behind their name.  I have an '03 so I have no MAF to deal with.  What's the best place to get one?

Are there other brands I should consider?

Im thinking that Fujita is the only intake that is compatible with an Accord w/ MAF. Im not positive and maybe im showingmy ignorance but maybe some one more knowledgable can clear this up.

Fujita is one of the few but I have no MAF.

Oh, Sorry I misread it. I dont know then.

I just bought a Fujita CAI w/o MAF. Fujita seems reliable as most of the members on the forum have it including I think 90% of the NYCM squad lolzzz...

Dang it, I'm so jealous of your options  AEM only has a CAI without MAF, which leaves us MAF'ers out of luck with them.  

But yeah, both AEM and Fujita are good choices!  

Another option is K&N.  They offer a CAI, and a complete system that can be converted to a SRI for winter/rainy seasons.  K&N is an oil based filter however, and I don't know if that's a deciding factor for you.

I'm happy with my AEM.  You can't go wrong with AEM or Injen.

Stage 1 weight reduction, yo!!

Why do some of the Gen7'z have a MAF and some don't?

Which would be better?

I been asking myself this since when I first ordered my CAI I ordered it with MAF then relized I didn't have one so I had to exchange it. There seems to be more options available to the cars w/o MAF.

I know technically it not a CAI but I love my K&N Ram Air intake. (It might just be the muscle car part of me speaking!)
(http://kandn.com/images/m/69-1209TS.jpg)
http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-1209TS

They also have a cold air intake available. (Which doesn't require an MAF)
(http://kandn.com/images/m/69-1206TP.jpg)
http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-1206TP

AEM, Injen, or K&N are your options.  Its a pretty simple install but if you need a hand I'm sure we could find a day.  Just make sure you have at least an 8inch extension to get to a bolt on the intake resonator that's in the bumper.  Took me forever to find that one bolt cause its quite hard to see and impossible to get to without an extension.

Thanks all

Werd!

Just yank it out and call it a day.

F. Yeah.... that thing weighs like 15-20lbs.

i need to take mine out too, and ill prob get an injen cai later on my birthday

take it out mark...the sound at WOT is pretty nice...my car sounds like it has an intake and all i did was remove that box..your going to need to take off your front bumper to get to it but it comes out pretty easy

I know a ram intake is much shorter than a CAI but is there any difference in performance? I mean underhood temperatures are hotter and your going to get less of the sound,.. I mean if thats what you want I can understand, but other than that Id just say go Fujita if your MAF and AEM if your not,.. shoot you can alwayz change out the filter! Its pretty much just a pipe!!

i heart my injen, but yea you cant go wrong with AEM V2 or Injen RD.  I was up in the air about them both and went with Injen because i liked the powdercoat look and it was about $40 less than AEM at the time.

Milan, we need you to pull us out of this depression - get that intake!

The cars that do have it are either made to California Emissions standards and have SULEV engines or are 06-07 cars. as far as the options for us k24 folks with MAF, fujita is i believe the only option for cold air.

05's have MAF's too.

I've got AEM and love it. the filter element is nice and easy to clean because you drop it in a bucket of water with some dish soap, and let it sit. once you take it out and once it's dry, put it back on. no oiling or any of that.

yea Milan, that dryflow filter is really nice.  I've got it on my V2.  but since your a 4 banger, i don't really know which is best.  like blinx said though, you can always change out the filter, but make sure it's a CAI, not short ram..

I have an 04 with a MAF.

Was it made in california?

I forgot the 05's also have them.

Negative on the California ghost rider and its not sulev.

Back when I purchased my K&N Short Ram, I really had no idea what I was doing or what I was getting.  SRI?  CAI?  What's the difference?  Whatever, I wanted something and I though I did a lot of "research," I didn't understand a thing I read.  MAF's?  Screw it, I ran out of patience, and I wanted something.  The product on the box of the K&N said, "Cold Air System," and all my Civic/Prelude driving friends said "Get K&N."  So I was satisfied.  

Anyway, it was a huge learning curve.  Shortly after installing it, which was a great experience as I learned a lot about my engine, I realized...  doh, it's a short ram.  And K&N doesn't offer a CAI for MAF Accords.  

I still find the idea of drawing air from outside the engine compartment to be more ideal, so unless I run across a fujita for cheap, I'm going to attempt a DIY extension from the existing K&N pipe.

Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations as to how to do this?  I've been reading over the net, some folks use ABS piping, others use exhaust tubing.

My other main concern is that I have noticed on aftermarket CAI's for our car, there are mounting brackets for the lower portion of the pipe.  I'm not entirely sure how I can emulate that.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

I would get a Fujita CAI since it is the only CAI you can get for a MAF equipped Accord.  There are other CAI's that can be converted to a SRI, but I don't think that would really be compatible with your SRI.  Then again, you never know.

Could do what I had set up for a little while (but it was with an OEM box). Go to autoparts store and get some pre bent exhaust pipes (longer ones and the ones with 90degree bends; then cut) and set it up.


I took mine apart because i didn't like the idea of the pipe rusting and sucking in rust. But I guess you could paint it and have it last longer (from the outside, the inside will still get rusty after a while)

Thanks for that suleman.  I didn't even think about the parts rusting!  

Yeah  I guess the best is to just fork out the cash, or live with what I have.

Ahwell.  Thanks for the tips.

Taking this thing out was a actually pretty fun.  It's nice to know that the car is being purged of things that are completely useless.

It didn't weigh 15-20 lbs though  I'd say more like 5!

haha I thought I was gay by thinkin takin the resonator out would actually do something, but that shits loud as hell now..lol

I went with this setup beacuse i have K&N drop in filter. With short ram intakes it absorbs alot of heat from the engine bay. the best set up for short ram is to have a filter in a box (to block the engine bay heat) then delete the resontaor and have a pipe come down to duct in the cold air coming from the fog light grill. or just have a cold air intake. i havent noticed a performance gain from deleting the resontaor, but your right driveacccord, the sound when WOT is pretty nice!!!

or just get some sheet metal and make a "box" around the filter. but leave it open facing behind the bumper (where a CAI filter would sit) to draw in some cooler air.

I <3 my Fujita!!!

Injen FTW...on WOT any pipe with a filter will make you go  

Any pipe without a filter will make you go too lol.  

jk jk

If you want some of the benefits of a CAI I would recommend taking off the intake resonator.  It's a free mod and I'm sure it makes the car breathe a little better.

Yeah, I already have an SRI on.  Was just thinking of making an extension for it.  I checked out some piping at Home Depot the other day, and the inner tubing is not smooth at all.  So forget that

Bit of a change of topic, did you end up picking up a CAI?  Did you go AEM?

Not yet but AEM would probably be at the top of my list.  I might just end up removing the resonator and call it a day.

lol true but then again who knows how much dust you'll be sucking in.

Well, more money for camera gear I suppose

I'll just jump on the bandwaggon and say that any pipe will make your car go faster.  Just for those who don't know, AEM owns Injen so you're basically just paying for the sticker on the pipe.  I would suggest the Injen unit over the AEM unit though because the Injen is sold either as the IS which is the short ram, or the RD which is the CAI.  If you get the RD (Race Division), you get the IS short ram intake plus a cold air extension that easily converts the kit to short ram.  I also advocate the use of the K&N SRI since they use a proprietary mechanism of controlling heat soak by sectioning off the filter area with plenum.  Genius idea!

Well, looks like a lot of my plans for this summer will have to be scrapped.  I need my wisdom teeth pulled.  No insurance FTL.

No insurance FTL is right! Get yourself some, son!

just wonder are you guys getting a hiss from the intake on a cold start? I hear the hiss for like 30sec before a warm up. My mom pointed it out to me one day. lol

mine sounds like a vacuum.

its just air being sucked/vacummed if im not mistaken. mine does the same on a cold start also

I just saw this thread, and it made me very interested. I've got a K&N SRI. What exactly is the intake resonator? Was that the big boxy thing right behind the driver side of the bumper where that tubing from the stock intake box goes down into that box, then bends around and straight back up? I may take the bumper off again to do this. Pics would be appreciated, too.

So taking this off should make my SRI sound louder? lol.

a little bit. i have the same intake and removed the resonator, not a whole lot of difference but every little bit helps in the long run.

But was I right as far as my description of it goes? lol

yea, very easy to remove once the bumper is removed.

yeah for you auto and k24 guys. mine was berely anything, just big U tube that maybe was like a pound or 2

Seconded. That thing was basically taking up the whole driver side of the space between the fender wall and the bumper cover. I was amazed, lol. As far as having to take off the wheel and everything, I didn't do that. I shoved a tiny ratchet in there and turned the thing 1 click every time. After about 5 minutes I got it loose, lol.

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3488/dscn3941y.jpg)

I was happy because I was able to use one of the plastic snaps that held that plastic shroud on the left to hold in my grill! While I was putting my grill back on when I blacked out my headlights, I accidentally broke one of the plastic snaps that would hold the bottom of the grill tight to the bumper cover, lol.

Stage 1 JDM weight reduction AND salvaging of old parts to fix broken ones! Two birds with one stone!

Hmmm.... shouldn't this be called a "Bolt Off" mod?  

yeah for the v6's its not reallt a weight problem but the 4cyl ones are pretty heavy. 15-20lbs was a bit of an exxageration but its heavy nontheless.

hey, it's a stage 1 weight reduction though, and that's all that matters!

I was thinking... what are some possibilities to getting better airflow to your SRI without sticking the filter down near the fender? I was thinking, couldn't you cut the part of the fender that extends towards the bottom of the bumper cover (below where the resonator used to be), then make a sort of scoop thing that'll direct air coming from the bottom of the car up to the filter. I don't think splashing water would be a problem because there's quite a ways to get to the filter itself. I could even make a sort of shroud to protect any surrounding wires, etc.

Any ideas?

I don't know if it's worth all the trouble when you could just get a CAI.  I've used common sense and never had an issue with sucking up water.  I think most people hear the horror stories about people hydrolocking and assume that this will happen to them.

+1 to what Tim said.  however you end up trying to do this, it still wouldn't effectively help out the SRI enough for the amount of work you'd have to do.  CAI is a better choice for that.  I think Fujita is the company that makes the CAI that can be changed to an SRI if you want the versatility.  but I'm not quite sure.  I think JT (blackhawk) has that intake.

i've had my AEM V2 CAI in pretty much since I bought the car, I've had no problems through snow/rain/sleet even being lowered. and where I live there are plenty of puddles to keep me on my toes.  You just have to be smart about it I guess.

Hm ok. Well, I'm probably going to be keeping my SRI for awhile, so I don't it'd be that big of a deal. I just thought it'd be cool to come up with ideas to make it better without buying a whole new one.

The one I have, Injen converts to SR as well.


I give you props for trying to innovate but intakes give you so lil power additive anyway there's no point in trying to better them.

^ahh, that's the one I was thinking about.  yea, it's the Injen RD right?

Yeah I think it's RD.

best thing you could do would be to fab up some sort of heat shield to surround the filter and maybe wrap the pipe with that heat tape they use on exausts...thats the cheapest, least invasive idea I can come up with

Just get a CAI with a bypass valve to prevent the water from getting through, it is a lot cheaper than a new engine.

If you have a CAI with a BPV, it's going to give you the same benefits as a SRI.  IMHO, it's a waste of money at that point.

Hmmm, do you think making a tube that goes from the top grill (or bottom) to the intake would make any difference?

Sorry for being a bugger, but I'm a fan of doing DIY mods and playing with end results, as opposed to just getting something and having it at that, lol.

I tried taking apart the intake resonator so I could salvage the tubing off of it, but it seems to be like uber sealed tight, lol.

I wish I had those friggin' fog light vents on my bumper so I could route a tube to it, lol.  I wonder if I can cut the holes and put them on myself...

Edit: Ok, I think the radiator is too close to either grill for me to be able to do any kind of tubing there. For a split second I thought about possibly putting it behind a radiator fan, but then realized that those fans are getting rid of the heat from the radiator, lol. That wouldn't turn out too well. I think I'll just scrap the hood, and strap one of those giant shop fans on top of the engine. :D

just get an intake and put it in yourself. Your making in sooo soo hard.... Get it, put it in, drive, and enjoy.... simple

I've already got a SRI (hence the topic name lol), I'm just throwing out ideas to getting colder air to it because of the apparent problems with engine heat and SRIs. Honestly, getting a cold air intake is out of the question because I pretty much just got my SRI. At the time I got the SRI I wasn't really informed on the real issue with hydrolocking. But now I know how hard it is to hydrolock your car. (Plus the SRI I got had the largest HP improvement from the list available :P I just sent them an email, lol.

I can totally give you props for wanting to do things yourself. I myself am in the process of creating my own version of the Comptech Icebox. I'm really not into buying something and just slapping it on. Way too easy. I like to complicate things. If there's no challenge in something, why fucking do it? That's the way I see it.

Point is Jeff, do what your heart desires. Like Sam said, a heatshield and an intake wrap would be the easiest and ideal way to go. If you can add some ducting from where your filter is to where your resonator used to be with a velocity stack on the end, even better. Mod away brotha!

Heh, I just read this and I'm basically in the same dilema. I even called K&N and asked if i could get the tubing, but they said no. My idea was to cut away the fender well part that extends and attaches to the bumper cover, but i haven't really given it much more thought.

I think I'm going to give the heat wrap stuff a shot. I found a really good DIY somewhere on tricks to applying it, etc., but I forgot to bookmark it! The tubing on my SRI does get pretty hot! I'll do this whenever I installed my TSX IM.

Edit: Found the page I was talking about: http://www.flex-innovations.com/intake_wrap.htm (http://www.flex-innovations.com/intake_wrap.htm)

I Also may think about painting my intake black, using the same stuff I'll be painting my intake manifold with. It says that it blocks up to 500F temperatures. Plus it'll look cool. :D

You can always add extra piping, but just dont make it long as the regular CAI. That way it'll be long enough to be away from the engine, but short enough to keep it from sucking up water.

that 500degree stuff is the same shit i used... worked pretty good just make sure you put on a few coats...
i did low gloss black on my TSX IM, might look pretty sweet if you painted your SRI tube black too
its gonna give you the paitning bug tho and your gonna end up painting your entire engine bay.. haha just warning you now

Yeah, painting the SRI tube black did come to mind. I think I'm going to do that. And yeah, I probably will end up painting everything, lol. I think I'm going to paint the manifold covers the same black, because they are starting to get a little faded. I wonder, would it be possible to paint the throttle body?

If I do paint it all black I'll definitely get some pics up. Lol, I bet K&N would void their warranty if I painted the tube black.

Wait hold on...are you installing this in the TSX??? There's no MAF sensor unless I'm totally off my rocker today.

Be careful with CAI's...If you find yourself in a flood situation, you can turn your engine into a paperweight surprisingly fast.

You could do some custom duct work if you could fabricate a catch to fit in front of the radiator.  If you can get that done, then run ducting to the filter and construct a box to seal off the intake from the rest of the engine bay.  You'll have no risk of hydrolock and you'll get the benefit of cooler air.

Timmy is correct, a bypass valve effectively negates having a cold air extension since the valve will open under WOT and suck in hot engine bay air.

nonono, this post was made back when I still had the Accord.

im picking up a fujita cold air tomorrow. but i cant help but think about how much of a PITA it will be to clean the filter. do i really need to take off the whole bumper just to clean the filter once or twice a year. what methods do you guys use?

yup... no other way around it...

yup... no other way around it...once you know how to take it off it really takes like 4 min to do

7 of those black snap things
4 bolts
2 screws...

pop it directly away from the car

i have taken off my bumper about ten times already. thats why i dont want to mess with it anymore. one day i just know ill break a clip when popping it back on...lol

It's really not that hard to do man.  Just buy extra clips on fleabay so you always have plenty on hand.

i took mine out without taking the bumper off. lol. put it on the lift took the under skirt off unbolted the resonator and ripped that biznitch out of there.

and what do you guys use to clean it . can i use my k&n filter cleaner

You can access the filter through the driver side wheel-well....pop off a few clips and a screw...pull back the plastic...and its right in front of you.

I hate taking off my front bumper too...seems like no matter how careful I am it gets a new scratch when I take it off.

yea that too! lol

I used the K&N filter cleaner kit on my filter.  You should be fine with that.

kool thanx again

just take it out from the liner. Take off the wheel and go from there. That is what i do.

I HATE those things! I've already broken the heads of like 3 of them!

yeahh... haha

also when you get yur fujita set up... it has instructions on how to clean
K&N uses an oil based cleaner while the fujita only recommends using warm soap and water...and just make sure it dries well...
read up today when you pick it up

also... enjoy yur complimentary NOS... remember to drink it and not put it in yur gas tank !
i went on like  a 3 month binge drinking that shit once i got my CAI....

you can take off driver wheel and unscrew couple bolts and you can take filter out. i usualy do it when changing headlight or foglight bulbs

ok kool. thanx for all the replies. im actually picking up a used one. so i wont have any instructions or anything. i guess the only thing to look for is how dirty the filter is, if the bracket that secures the intake is cracked, and that the rubber piece that connects to the TB is in good shape along with the clamps and! of course make sure is has the MAF sensor cutout. lol anything else? im picking it up tonight. I cant wait!

I wish I knew more about intakes before i got my SRI. a CAI would have obviously been a better option. I'm happy with my K&N though, plus it has a heatshield so it's not too bad. Plus it sounds nice.

i picked up the CAI. its looks pretty good. except that it had a gash near the bottom. it didnt penetrate through onto the inside. i guess it was rubbing against a braket or something metal. do you think it was a bad choice. im thinking about just wrapping the area with hockey tape to prevent further rubbing.

yeah i had them same problem with my fujita. Just get some 2side 3m tape n put it there. Stops it from moving around n rubbing on the metal. U know how flex happy our motor is. lol GL with the installation. Make sure to disconnect the batter. if you didn't take out the resonator yet. You will need to take the whole bumper off it is just easier. Also have ur radio code ready if your radio has the security on it.

i might install a rubber coupler on the pipe to avoid the intake pipe rubbing with the car's body:
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/vickietjia/My%20accord/Intake1.jpg)

looks good man. Your going to love the intake. I have it n it gives a nice deep growl. Ricer get scared with it revs up

i just installed the intake! it took me about an hour. i took my time because i had already worked 10hours today. its not much louder than my old set up. it idles quietly, and on wot at low rpms sound about the same as my old set-up (k&n drop in filter and deleted resonator) BUT... when you wot at high rpms its gets LOUD. i like it, but we will see in time if i will get annoyed by it. im afraid it will draw alot of attention...

hey jeff you know that cover you have next to the resonator. i put the back to use as some sort or heat shield from the front of the motor. like that u suck more air from the bottom. it wont make a difference, but you want the suction to flow from the bottom and not from the front of the motor. IDK

I'm sure that if you don't drive like a jackass, you won't draw as much attention.

+1 to what tim said

+2 to what tim said. The intake can been a sleep mod if you dont rev like hell. As a DD it is more then do able. I had mine for almost a year now and it doesn't bother me or the cops.

ha ha ha!   i usually dont but, since it is new for me, i am having alittle fun with it. i like ridding at 4000rpm, and when i catch pedestrians walking by, i slam on the gas and let that sucker ROAR! lol it sounds like we got real VTEC now! LOL
i am getting used to it tho. even my butt dyno has noticed a bit of a diff. and your guys are right it is very quite. its actually more quite when you WOT at low rpms then when i had stock air box with the deleted resontor.
I LOVE IT! i wasnt to fond of intakes before. thought they were too loud with minimal gains. but the noise level is manageable and really compliments the TSX IM.

Glad yur happy...i used the exact same 3" rubber coupling to eliminate the rattle problem...
enjoy my man... i heart my fujita
tends to be a pain in the ass to keep the pipe clean tho, that nice shine will only last for a month or so before it starts shitting up on you, maybe get some nice chrome cleaner or something for it...still havent found a great cleaner for it

zoom zoom !
isnt it cool when you just tap the gas hard too?  you get that initial sssssssttt....ssssssssssstttt....
i usually tap the gas like that when i see some pedestrians too haha

i just grabbed some old rubber mat. cut a 3" piece and wrapped her around another 1" strip that went over where it was scratched already. bought two clamps for a couple bucks, and installed her. i didnt even have any else to install but i was soo excited that i ghetto installed it. i used zip ties to secure the breather tube and that other big ugly thing that goes on before the maf. and i didnt even have that bolt with the rubber bushing for the mounting braket so i zip tied that too. LOL i think today i will get some proper clamps. as for that bolt with the bushin the original owner still has it on his car, he will give it to me when he takes it off.
as for the chrome polish. i dont really care about appearance to much. a little degreasing hear and there is good enough for me

its wicked. glad its on the driver side too, because you can really hear it clearly with the windows down. i also like how when your idling, and you give it some gas you can hear the air being sucked in right b4 you hear the motor.

i think i might buy a K&N 3" filter for it tho

Hmm... Where exactly did you put it? Got any pics?

Man i love the way intakes sound, lol. I was a passenger in my own car the other day and WOW, it sounds totally different, but still awesome.

You guys are doing ricer fly by's and blipping the throttle at pedestrians?  Man, talk about trying to stay low key.  You guys are just like this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeeVARALm8o).

wow that is F up dont do that to pedestrians. If someone did that to me I would toss a rock through there windshield if I caught him on the stoplight/stop sign.

But yeah it sounds soo soo good. When i first got it I would just smash it up to speed limit. After awhile i got tired of it and I rarely notice it anymore unless I get on it to pass.

hahaha i did it once. ok... twice. im not fucking with it anymore. im back to being my humble self and maintaining my car.

haha dude if i lost $800 in a race i would die hahaha
i have a DD i rarely ever show off... maybe tap it a few times here n there...

did he win that last race?

anyway.... fujita FTW !

It's fun giving you guys shit.  I didn't bother watching that shit all the way through.  After about 45 seconds, I stopped watching it because I would have had to slice my wrists open because I couldn't live with myself for watching that steaming pile of shit that Mtv calls entertainment.  Back on topic though, the Fujita CAI is going to be the best option for you MAF'd guys, since it's the only CAI option.

hahah i didnt even bother. i clicked on it, watched about 30 secs and said fuck that! but tim you are difenetly quick to give shit or even correct. i will be on the look out for any mistakes you make even tho they are rare. lol
back on topic, i cant believe that the CAI made a noticeable difference in performance, and how QUIET it is. i thought intakes were more noise than anything. but this CAI has proved me wrong. FUJITA FTW!

i noticed on the stock hoses there were no clamps holding them in place. i guess rubber on plastic grip well. but rubber on a smooth surface i dont think would grip as well and might slide off. so i put zip ties. i was thinking about putting clamps on the hoses. here is a pic of the areas i am talking aboot...
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/fabulous010/P1000481.jpg)

My K&N was the same way with some of the hoses. There were no clamps, but I just used the OEM ones that were on the old intake, if they fit. For the idle air intake hose, I wasn't able to put on any clamps. Actually, The only clamps I were able to re-use were the ones for the blow-by that went from the engine to the big boxy thingy, lol.

I also zipped tied mine. LOL I should really just go to kragen and get those clamps when I pick up some for the new tranny cooler. yay ^^

I'd use the clamps over zip ties.  Just be careful not to over tighten them.  You can collapse the plastic inlet if you do.

did you get the Fujita duffel bag as well? Cause i got that with mine and i love it. I use it as my travel bag all the time.

thanx for the advice
WTF i replied to this yesterday. anyways. i said, i bought is used so i didnt get the duffle bag or any of the other goodies. the good new is i only paid $150 for the intake. fujita intakes retail for $300+ CDN

ddi any of you guys connect the hose directly to the intake? or did you still connect that boxy thingy too!

If you have the "boxy" thing, use it.  If you don't, then don't.

It looks funky, but I put mine back on. I guess they designed it that way for a reason, so it must have some purpose. I'd leave it on.

Alright, I'm thinking about making my own extension for my intake to turn it into a CAI. I found this very informative DIY that involves using ABS plastic:

http://cold_air_intake.koken.org/ (http://cold_air_intake.koken.org/)

I'm going to wait on it for a little bit, and see if Cole is still interested in trading his Fujita, but this seems like a pretty neat project.

Oh, I was also thinking, how much more effective would it be if I got a larger cone filter? The guy in the DIY mentioned a 12" filter... would the increased volume provide any more benefits?

Can anyone with the Fujita CAI with MAF give me the dimensions of the block where the MAF sensor goes in?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/iceprophet/ca-1914.jpg)

Specifically, outside length and width dimension, inside slot length and width dimension, screw hole centers from the respective corner, and thread size.

(I know I could get all this by templating off my stock stuff, but if someone has the opportunity maybe they could post it up for me.)

CAUTION: super awesome AlphaCam V8 computer generated 3D rendering visualization representation of dimensions I need:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/iceprophet/untitled-2.jpg)

THANK YOU!

So when i put my new intake on, i noticed that at the end of 2nd and 3rd gear it makes a high pitched noise, as if nails were scraping across a chalkboard. I shortened the two hoses that connect from the intake to the engine and it helped a little, i think.. but if anyone has any experience with this problem, please let me know. I have an 05 accord with a weapon r dragon intake on it

What type intake you used? also check if you have a air leak in the lines did you use clamps at the end of each hose ?

short ram  weapon-r, Dragon intake. And no i did not use clamps. The hoses seem pretty tightly sealed to me

It's a K24?  That's no noise an intake would make.

I'd put some clamps on all those hoses and see if it goes away.

+1 to what Mike said

Yeah ill try and see if the clamps work. But its definetly the intake because it started happening right after I installed it

So I just put clamps on all the hoses and its still happening, I also tried shortening the hoses as short as they can go but the noise still persists

it could be the filter, try a different filter.

I'm not familiar with the dragon intakes or wepon R in genearal are they a quality company?

they seem reliable, but idk what it could be.

Could be the design of the filter.

Yeah I'm going to call them and see if there's an alternate solution. If not ill replace the filter

turns out it was the filter making that noise.

I thought I remember the dragon series having sort of an odd filter design.

yeah it has a a foam filter with like a cage around it, and when the air goes through the cage it makes a whistling sound. Pretty poor designing in my opinion, its really annoying. Im just gonna get a cotton filter. Is any brand better than k & n ?

K&N is just fine.  You can get filters from all kinds of companies like AEM or A'PEXi if you want though.

just take the factory one and trace it

Well as noted I'm officially infected with the mod bug after less than 5 days of ownership.  I need to order myself a short ram intake soon (my areas stupid puddles+my own paranoia=no CAI).  I'm just wondering if anyone has any recommendations about which brand to go with?  Right now it's between AEM and Injen.  What do you guys think?

Search is your friend here. Most SRIs are really all the same design and someone correct me if im wrong but doesnt AEM make Injen? I used AEM before with good results. If I remember right, an Injen SRI was hard to find, they make alot of CAI.

before i did my engine build and had paul make a custom intake, i had the k&n typhoon sri and was extremely pleased, imo they have the best filters.

Ahh forgot about good ole K&N.  I'll be better with the search in the future scout's honor.

I have a K&N I'm going to try and sell. You may not want it though, because the pipe was dented. I may end up just dumping the pipe and selling the filter alone.

I'll let you know if I can get the pipe fixed.

Thanks that'd be great, let me know how it turns out.

One question does come to mind: What year is your CM and is it MAF equipped? That little sticking point is what determines which aftermarket intakes are compatible with your particular vehicle. Personally, I'm not a fan of off the shelf parts as I like to create shit myself. That's a whole other subject though.

Car is an 03, no MAF...at least as far as I can tell lol.  I know there seems to be some confusion about which cars have what.  Funny you should mention the making your own stuff.  My last car had a DIY type intake that was dyno proven to outperform the aftermarket stuff.  In fact as I type this I'm enraged at myself for not considering this sooner.  Hmm...to the drawing board!

Yeah. 03 Accords weren't equipped with MAF's so you're good to go on that. Sorry for throwing out the DIY wrench in there. I just couldn't hold back my opinion on the matter. Only reason I mentioned it is because of my homemade Comptech style icebox intake. I know it inspired Jeff to explore the idea. Matter of fact, none of my cars have ever had an off the shelf intake now that I think about it.

No apologies, thank you for the DIY wrench!  Sometimes it just takes a little prodding to get the old wheels turning.  I was looking at intake last night and thinking "200-300 bucks for 4 hp at best sucks".  It's just pipe and hose clamps for the most part.  I'l have to see what I can come up with.

Not a problem.

Hmm ok after some looking around I was able to find this: http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=24868 (http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=24868)
Basically it's just removing the stock air box and sticking a filter at the end of the stock intake tubing.  I was originally thinking of making my own pipe but this seems a lot easier because of all the sensors/hoses that connect to the intake tubing.  My question now is does anyone think this would actually make a noticeable power difference?  There is some contention in the thread itself with some people saying its just for the sound and others claiming that it works as well as a name brand SRI.  My thinking is that it should work nearly as good as a brand name one since the filter ends up in the place anyways.  The only difference I could think of is that the stock intake tubing isn't as smooth as an aftermarket pipe.  Anyways, thoughts/comments?

*Edit* Meant to include I saw this thread: http://elitecm.net/forums/index.php?topic=1979.0 (http://elitecm.net/forums/index.php?topic=1979.0) but since the original thread appears to be no longer with us I'm not sure what was done.

With regards to that first link, I saw that thread when he started it. All I have to say is: no. Not only do you have all the turbulence of the OEM rubber hose, you have all the ambient heat of the engine bay being sucked in. Worse than the OEM setup in every aspect. Move on.

As for the second link, I wish I could remember what the intake was about but IIRC, the OP was one of those troublemaking douchebags that ended up getting bounced and all his posts removed. Its tough to remember all the dipshits that get bounced.

The nice thing about the K&N SRI that I had is that it has a heatshield. If you do end up sticking a cone filter at the end like from the guy in that thread, and I end up ditching the pipe, I can sell you the heatshield itself.

As for my personal recommendation, I'm with Z. Although I really like the SRI that I had, you can probably do without. It's mainly for the sound. I plan on gutting out the fins/baffles in the stock airbox, and maybe removing the intake resonator and putting straight pipe instead.

My protege has finally chimed in after I mentioned his name. Were your ears twitching at all Jeff?

Haha yeah. I haven't been able to get on my computer until just now, so I finally got a chance to post. I've been reading everything from on my phone, though.

the filter in the AEM SRI is made by K&N.

Interesting... are the filters rebranded, or do they have K&N written all over them? Also, since we're now on the subject of air filters:

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/ (http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/)

I didn't want to lose that link... it's pretty interesting.

the filter itself says K&N, the rubber "cap" says AEM. it's a dry element though.

I have a k&n typhoon CAI (the one that also converts to a SRI) and it came with a water-resistant sock that goes over the filter, I have driven through some massive puddles (my area is know for flooding :p) and never had any issues. The filter seems pretty well protected in the fenderwell. I can't see you hydro-locking your motor unless you try going 4-wheeling with your car or something lol!
But if your dead set on a SRI then I suggest just getting some tubing from eBay for like $40 and making your own.

Considering there's a ton of people that have hydrolocked with OEM setups (including my wife's old TL), it'll happen.

That sucks about your wife's car :/ and ya hydrolock can happen on any vehicle you just have to submerge the point of entry for air on any intake system and boom! I do drive cautiously though and try to avoid any REALLY deep puddles, but you can't avoid em all there are precautions that can be taken though bypass valves, hydro shields etc...
Sorry for derailing the thread a lil...I can say the k&n is a pretty good SRI (I convert it in the winter for obvious reasons) but I would suggest a heat shield for best gains, Kseries are sensitive to temperature

Actually, we saved it. Then we traded it in 4 months later for her current RDX.

*UPDATE* Well I wienered out of making my own intake and picked up a used aem sri for about the same price as I would have paid for materials to try making my own.  Obviously not a real noticeable difference, but she looks pretty and I can finally say I've begun to cave to the mod bug lol.  Install was nice and easy...except for that front resonator mounting bolt.  A pox upon whoever put that there.

Here's a finished product shot:
(http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g340/pandapocalypse24/IMG_0094.jpg)

FYI, I just lumped all of the CAI/SRI threads into one thread.  Please post any questions, comments, or advice in here instead of creating a new thread.  Thank you.

(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp283/papinati305/IMAG0202.jpg)

this means no MAF right?

I don't believe I see one.

ok... thanks tim. also, will a tsx intake fit ours? engine bay looks exactly the same

The chassis is slightly different.  It will probably fit, but there's a chance it may not clear something because of the difference in chassis designs.

I didn't want to start a new thread, since this will be somewhat related.

First, is any throttle body spacer worth purchasing (i.e. has it been proven to provide any performance gains whatsoever, even if marginal)?  If yes, what manufacturers and part numbers would be recommended (i.e. Helix, P2R, etc.)?  Thanks!

I would plan to pair this with a TSX IM and some sort of aftermarket intake (SRI or CAI, unsure on what one just yet).  Or just the OEM intake less the resonator  ;D

im not sure about the other company's but i know the owner of p2r personally, and he dyno tests all the parts he sells..

Thanks AG (sorry, don't know your actual name :))!!  Based on the P2R website,

"Increase horsepower and torque with this 3/4 inch throttle body spacer. Tests on a 06 Civic Si  produced a 4.5 horsepower gain at the wheels! Our spacer comes equipped with a 1/8th inch NPT threaded port at the bottom that can be used as an extra vacuum port or nitrous. Includes extended bolts, plug, and is anodized for a brilliant show-quality look."

Apparently there are some benefits  :thumbsup:  Now, just wondering what the exact part number is...  Ebay shows P325-1627 for the '03-'05 Accord.  The P2R website shows P325B for the 04-05 Acura TSX.  Are they one in the same or interchangeable?  I am noob.  BTW, does the spacer include new gaskets or would they need to be purchase separately?  From the description, it seems that the gaskets are not included....

no they're seperate, I have the TB & plenum gaskets, which are ALOT thicker than the oem gaskets...you can also get the gasket that goes to the head if you want, i didnt get it..
heres what mine look like,  the plenum gasket is a tiny bit thicker than the TB gasket
(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp283/papinati305/IMAG0500-1.jpg)
 I believe the 04-05 tsx should work.. if not give sean a call, and ask him...i believe his number is on the site..and lemme know when you find out, i was thinking about going next friday to pick a spacer up too lol
and its chris btw :)

^^ Thanks Chris!!  Yeah, I already have the TSX IM and P2R IM gasket (not installed  8-)), but would also like to do the P2R TB spacer with a new P2R gasket at the connection point to the IM.

cool... i have TSX IM and the gaskets, i want to put the spacer, when you find out if the TSX spacer works let me know

I honesty don't think that a TB spacer would do much of anything for a stock Accord motor.  You can't really compare the results from an '06 Si and expect the same gains.  I'd also like to see a dyno graph comparing the motor with and without the spacer.  I just don't believe it when there are claims of gains without proof.  The only benefit I see to having a TB spacer is for a port for a nitrous fogger or water methanol nozzle.  Those things are a waste of money.

^^ Very good point Tim.  Thanks.

@Chris- Would your friend be able to provide Dyno graphs/printouts of the test he conducted for the Accord TB spacer?

Sure if e doesn't have one, I'll dyno mine

That would provide conclusive info.  If you're serious, I would suggest that you dyno the car, install the TB spacer, then dyno again in the same day.

:thumbsup:... Looking forward to this.

Do remember to get conclusive results, you need at least three pulls to get a good average. There's always slight differences between dyno pulls.

Thread bump !
I'm looking to replace my home made short ram with a CAI.
My choice so far is leaning for Injen with the RD1680BLK.

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab109/Pascal_Godin/RD1680BLK_zpsd1bb0362.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/Pascal_Godin/media/RD1680BLK_zpsd1bb0362.jpg.html)

I like the fact that it has a short ram mode (ideal for winter in Canada) and has a 3 in piping. It is also available in black, which is a plus for me since I don't like the shiny chrome ones. Other thing, it's almost 100$ cheaper than the K&N (my second choice).

Do you guys think this is a good choice ?
Last reviews on CAI ( except the fujita) are from 2009.

Injen makes quality stuff. My brother had one on his old 240 and the firmament was spot on. As for gains, they're all about the same. A metal tube with a filter on the end. Not much difference.

according to this shootout, you are wrong  :laugh:

https://www.heeltoeauto.com/tech-articles/intake-shootout-04-08-acura-tsx.html (https://www.heeltoeauto.com/tech-articles/intake-shootout-04-08-acura-tsx.html)

but I get your point, any good filter, on a smooth interior piping, will make similar results.

I've been wrong before. Not worried about it.