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Title: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 26, 2010, 01:44:31 PM
First, chrome, while it is easy to keep shiney, I am looking for the absolute best product to use on my chrome wheels. I used Mothers chrome polish this weekend and it seemed to work better than the spray on foaming crap I had picked up. Also, I have been tossing around the idea of picking up a powerball to use on my wheels to buff and polish them even better. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated.

Second, is there anything that works better than the black bottle of bug and tar remover? I am looking for something that will somewhat help keep the bugs from sticking to the front of the car. I have thought about saving up for a bra after I get the front bumber repainted but for a bra made specifically for the saleen bumper the pricing gets be be rediculous


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: CrackerTeg on September 26, 2010, 03:39:00 PM
When you say bra, you are referring to the clear bra, correct? As for the cleaning products, I can't help you there. I'm FAR from pro status. I just clean my car every other week (when I'm home, of course).


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: unclejud49348 on September 26, 2010, 06:58:54 PM
I have a Mother's powerball and it works pretty good.

2. I also use the Bug and Tar Remover stuff and I haven't found anything that works better than that. I do seem to remember Skizot using some kind of clear wrap on the front of his car, but only suggested it for long trips. Probably not practical for daily driving.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: Mike on September 26, 2010, 07:51:58 PM
Keep the powerball far away from your chrome wheels. I would be using P21S (diluted a ton), and then I would go with wheel wax, or Poor Boys World wheel sealant. I would apply and remove all by hand.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 26, 2010, 09:10:05 PM
Mike, have you had a bad experience with the powerball?


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 26, 2010, 09:10:55 PM
What about a paint sealant/cleaner/wax/polish that would work wonders on oxidization?


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: timot_one on September 26, 2010, 09:35:34 PM
For wheels, I would follow Mike's advice.  They make a really good P21S makes 2 great wheel cleaners.  If you maintain your car, then the regular wheel cleaner will work fine.  If you don't wash your wheels often, then get the gel wheel cleaner.  I've also had very good results with Meguiars wheel cleaner, but be sure to get the stuff that's meant to be used with chrome wheels.  Meguairs has 3 different wheel cleaners depending on your wheel's finish.

As far as the bugs on the front bumper, I cannot say enough good things about Surf City Road Trip Grime Destroyer.  I use it on my front bumper and it does a great job.  I use it on my rear bumper to clean the carbon deposits from my exhaust.  All I do is spray my bumper with water, spray on the Road Trip and let it dwell for about 30-60 seconds, and then rinse it off and practically all the carbon comes off.  The left over is given a 2nd treatment of Road Trip and I agitate it with a dedicated sponge for this kind of stuff.  The results are amazing for the amount of work you do.  I have also tried the Poor Boys World Bug Squash (diluted to whatever the directions on the bottle are) and the results weren't as good as the Surf City stuff.  You can also get a "bug scrub" pad to help with the process.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 26, 2010, 10:49:17 PM
Apparently surf city isscarce around here


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: timot_one on September 26, 2010, 11:45:44 PM
They sell it at Pep Boys.  You can try to order it online too.  I've seen it on Amazon or you can buy it directly from Surf City Garage (http://www.surfcitygarage.com/detail1.php?product_id=56).  I want to buy a case of the Road Trip.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 27, 2010, 12:21:55 AM
I personally don't like ordering things online given my luckbut I may have to. I will call or stop by pepboys tomorrow after school


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: timot_one on September 27, 2010, 12:24:22 AM
You'd think that the company that makes the stuff or Amazon would be okay though.  I've had good success with Amazon.  They took care of me when a CD they sent me was fucked up.  Good customer service.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 27, 2010, 12:49:27 AM
Well that's good to know,my aunt works for Lockheed Martin in SC and she shipped me a bottle of leather conditioner years ago and it was all n ye box by the time it got here, and the bottle was crushed I'm sure she sent it freight and they flew t, That is my concern


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: Mike on September 27, 2010, 02:23:20 PM
I've ordered stuff directly from Surf City, and had no issues with them. They are a solid company.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 27, 2010, 04:10:17 PM
Awesome, I found the surf city stuff at pep boys so I can luckily get it local where can I order the p21s and who makes it?


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: Mike on September 27, 2010, 07:27:10 PM
P21S is the company order it from detailed Image Greg will take care of you. He's done ALOT of business with Tim and myself. You can even check out there how to's while you are there. I'll give you links to the products I'd use, and you can get 10% of using 10offelite as a coupon code.

This is the wheel cleaner I would use. It seems expensive up front but, It works very good deluded 10:1 with water so the medium size bottle should last at least a year as opposed to the mcguires stuff that you use 3 times and the bottle is gone. Think of it as buying 3 or 4 bottle of Mcguires.

http://www.detailedimage.com/P21S-M14/Gel-Wheel-Cleaner-P86/1000-ml-S2/ (http://www.detailedimage.com/P21S-M14/Gel-Wheel-Cleaner-P86/1000-ml-S2/)

As far as wax or sealant for wheels I would use. Again a little pricey but, a little will go along way and the product will last along time

http://www.detailedimage.com/Poorboys-World-M1/Wheel-Sealant-P40/8-oz-S1/  (http://www.detailedimage.com/Poorboys-World-M1/Wheel-Sealant-P40/8-oz-S1/)






Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: Mike on September 27, 2010, 07:35:26 PM
What about a paint sealant/cleaner/wax/polish that would work wonders on oxidization?


Are the issues on your red paint?

Mike, have you had a bad experience with the powerball?

Would you replace any other $120 tool with a half assed $20 substitute.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 27, 2010, 07:57:05 PM
This is true, you do get what you pay for, What tool was it you recommended to buff and polish wheels for an even deeper shine? Thanks for the Links, I will probably order them next week when I get paid. and there is one good sized spot of oxidization on the c pillar. I just told my mom that the only way I am not going to the police academy is if I get big into detailing again and get my business degree. and she Knows a guy that works for the local Cadi dealer and his business is contracted with them.

Also Mike, What would you recommend as an engine degreaser? And a method of use that will not kill my coil-packs(I tried one product that worked well, but it required the use of water and when a coil pack meets a drop of water it dies


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: Mike on September 27, 2010, 08:26:59 PM
I do wheels mostly by hand. With quality products you will achieve great results. What type of surface is the pillar? Is it painted or vinyl? Is it red or black, can you provide a picture of it?


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 27, 2010, 08:49:16 PM
Red painted metal, I can take a picture of it tomorrow if we get any sunlight


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: timot_one on September 27, 2010, 10:45:53 PM
Goddamnit Mike!! :mad:  Now I want to buy more detailing shit.  I hate you.  I don't have wheel sealant, but the brake dust on my wheels is ridiculously bad right now.  I've gotta clean my fucking car for the show this weekend.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 27, 2010, 10:59:17 PM
haha its a daily battle for me, I lost today, I spent like 15 bucks that I was gonna use to buy get him to the greek tomorrow on the surf city Dash away which worked a miracle on my dads trucks dash


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: timot_one on September 28, 2010, 12:05:22 AM
I like that stuff too.  I use it every time I clean my interior.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 28, 2010, 12:16:39 AM
Wow man that pro-grade stuff adds up. I might actualyl want to look into going to work for a detail shop just to use their stuff


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: timot_one on September 28, 2010, 12:23:09 AM
I should start up my own detailing business.  Too bad I don't have access to a hose so I can't really rock a foam gun or power washer.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 28, 2010, 12:33:54 AM
I need to figure out how to degrease my engine bay without killing another coil pack


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: timot_one on September 28, 2010, 01:37:31 AM
Don't go crazy with the water.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 28, 2010, 02:47:09 AM
I will try it again and see what I can do


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: Mike on September 28, 2010, 07:49:54 AM
Goddamnit Mike!! :mad:  Now I want to buy more detailing shit.  I hate you.  I don't have wheel sealant, but the brake dust on my wheels is ridiculously bad right now.  I've gotta clean my fucking car for the show this weekend.


I just use regular wax, and optiseal on painted wheels.

Red painted metal, I can take a picture of it tomorrow if we get any sunlight


I would try to polish it out, the initial investment for products will be expensive but, they can be used on the whole car. For red I would go with…

Clay

2 Step polishing


1.   Meguiars M105

http://www.detailedimage.com/Meguiars-M43/Ultra-Cut-Compound-M105-P388/32-oz-S1/ (http://www.detailedimage.com/Meguiars-M43/Ultra-Cut-Compound-M105-P388/32-oz-S1/)

2.   Meguiars M205

http://www.detailedimage.com/Meguiars-M43/Ultra-Finishing-Polish-205-P389/32-oz-S1/ (http://www.detailedimage.com/Meguiars-M43/Ultra-Finishing-Polish-205-P389/32-oz-S1/)

Then wax

P21S concours look carnuba wax

http://www.detailedimage.com/P21S-M14/Concours-Carnauba-Wax-P83/62-oz-S1/ (http://www.detailedimage.com/P21S-M14/Concours-Carnauba-Wax-P83/62-oz-S1/)

Then sealant

http://www.detailedimage.com/Blackfire-M32/Wet-Diamond-P205/16-oz-S1/ (http://www.detailedimage.com/Blackfire-M32/Wet-Diamond-P205/16-oz-S1/)

The best way to apply and use these products is with a polisher but, I suppose you could do it by hand. Of course you would want to start with a  test panel.




Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 28, 2010, 11:05:09 AM
I've got an orbital buffer


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: Mike on September 28, 2010, 11:30:12 AM
That would be perfect. You can look for the Meg's polishes at a local auto body supply store.


Title: Re: Need some suggestions
Post by: exelr8 on September 28, 2010, 01:03:05 PM
Sweet, I gotta buy a pulley and new belt today maybe


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