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Title: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: Paulius005 on March 26, 2010, 11:01:11 PM
It's probably hogwash that it gives 8HP and 10 TQ, but it is interesting that TireRack is selling this. I've always known TireRack as a website that doesn't fuck around with magical "tuning" equipment.

I'm pretty sure this just went up on their website too, didn't notice engine tuning as an option for my car yesterday.

EDIT: I read through quite a few forums and most reports are that the product does yield gains and helps with A/F ratio and such.

http://www.tirerack.com/engine_tuning/d ... toModClar= (http://www.tirerack.com/engine_tuning/detail.jsp?ID=1200&autoMake=Honda&autoModel=Accord+Coupe+LX+4cyl&autoYear=2006&autoModClar=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

I think I may do some research on this, what's your input on this?

Product Description from TireRack:
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For models with 2.4l engines. Power Gains +8HP +10TQ.


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Hypertech’s engineers have cracked the code to bring their award winning, high performance engine tuning to the sport tuner market.

The sport tuner enthusiast no longer has to pay for expensive dyno time because the Max Energy Sport is complete with optimized tunes developed specifically to get the most out of late model imports. Max Energy Sport’s Power Tuning software extracts every bit of energy possible out of every molecule of fuel for more miles at part-throttle and more power at wide-open throttle. In order to increase engine efficiency, horsepower and torque, Hypertech’s engineers first make hundreds of dyno runs to optimize the spark and air-fuel curves point by point over the entire rpm band from just off idle to wide open throttle. Next they take the vehicle with the new tune to the track and the street to verify real world performance gains. The results: maximum power, quicker acceleration, smoother shifting and better drivability.

The Max Energy Sport also offers specific features for your make, model and year, so you can personalize your vehicle’s performance to suit specific needs or uses:

RPM “rev” Limiter
Top-Speed Limiter
V-TEC Controller (Honda/Acura Only)
0-60 mph Electronic Throttle Restriction
Read & Clear Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs)
Return to Stock or Change Option Settings
Internet Updateable
Hypertech makes it easy too. Simply plug Hypertech’s Max Energy Sport into the vehicle’s under-dash connector, answer a few “yes”/”no” questions that appear on the product’s scrolling screen, then with the push of a button re-program your vehicle’s computer with improved performance and efficiency in less than15 minutes. Uses Hypertech PC software to download updates and new tuning programs (software is not yet compatible with Windows 7).

All Hypertech products are perfect for vehicles already modified with performance intake and/or exhaust products and are street-legal for use in all 50 states (C.A.R.B. E.O. or pending). Hypertech products will not void your factory warranty and have a 30-day, money-back, satisfaction guarantee.


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: Sworkhard on April 02, 2010, 04:31:33 PM
It appears that it adds that much power at one point in the curve, but doesn't add that amount to the total engine output.  For example, it adds 8hp and 16ft=lbs tq to the s2000 at 2650 rpm

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for the accord

Premium: +8 HP@5450rpm     +10 Ft-Lbs@2600rpm
Regular:   +6 HP@5450rpm       +7 Ft-Lbs@2600rpm

dyno graph:

http://sport.hypertech.com/Graphs/62002 ... 202.4L.pdf (http://sport.hypertech.com/Graphs/62002_2003-2007%20Honda%20Accord%202.4L.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: xodus on May 06, 2010, 12:03:13 PM
Thanks for you questions.

 

Our Sport tuner for the 2.4L Accord comes with two engine tunes; one for Regular fuel (87 octane) and one for Premium fuel (91 octane). The programmer also has options for adjusting the engine rev limiter + or – 500 RPM, and to be able to raise the top speed shutoff. We make good gains in HP and Torque, and improve the throttle response and power at part throttle as well.

 

The engine tune options will work with any emission-legal bolt on modifications. Those include cold air intakes, cat back exhaust systems, and underdrive pulleys. There is no need to have “custom” maps for these modifications. We test with these mods, and our tuning will compensate for the additional engine airflow accordingly.

 

Our Sport tuner is not designed to work with modifications like aftermarket intake manifolds, headers, cat-delete exhaust, and cams. You need to be able to tune your vehicle with those specific modifications. Since our Sport tuner is sold for the street market, and is 50-state emission legal, we don’t offer options for custom tuning. There are several software programs on the market that allow you to custom tune the factory ECU, and there are other stand alone systems that support these type of modifications.

 

I hope this helps explain our product better.

 

Chris Crecelius

Hypertech Inc.

901-382-8888 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              901-382-8888      end_of_the_skype_highlighting Phone

901-273-0002 Fax


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: Mike on May 06, 2010, 12:14:59 PM
I've got a bridge for sale in Brooklyn. Anyone interested?


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: timot_one on May 06, 2010, 12:28:15 PM
Which one?


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: Mike on May 06, 2010, 12:32:24 PM
You pick.


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: CurrentStatus on August 26, 2010, 10:42:40 AM
Hey, I know some of you guys are skeptical about this Hypertech, but Ive been on the beta list for about 5 months. They need to find an 05 accord to get calibrations from......Im pretty sure if someone wants to let them run cals on your 05, I can get you the hypertech for either around 150 dollars for running the beta for them, if not for free.......PM me if you are interested


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: Mike on August 26, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
do they pay when there is an issue?


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: CurrentStatus on August 26, 2010, 12:02:40 PM
HONESTLY, I doubt it...lol
Does hondata pay when you cant get k pro to run on an accord?
Same shit....is the outcome worth the trials and tribulations?
Seeing that nobody makes shit for an accord as far as plug n play(ish) Im willing to take a swing at it.....plus, what is going to fuck up more than issues honda has with stock shit? Im burning a quart of oil evry 1000 miles, but honda wont fix it......so I have to find a way to fix it myself.....Not saying hypertech is the shit, or that Im a genius.......but seeing the limitations on any type of tuning or reflash......under a grand total of thousands of dollars, like tryin to  run k pro...
pros outwiegh the cons to me personally


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: Mike on August 26, 2010, 12:12:21 PM
I wouldn't even put this in the same paragraph as K pro.. K pro or Hondata in general is a proven device!


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: CurrentStatus on August 26, 2010, 12:31:09 PM
True, and I am not dissing or hating on it. It is the shit. I am not implying otherwise......Im just saying, kpro is alot harder, and a whole lot more of your money. Yes, the payoff is huge, once you get there. I am just saying, for the price, versus stock......its worth a try....the worst that wil happen is you return it to stock settings, which is one of the perks of this....if you need to take it into honda for work, you push a button, and it goes back to stock for honda calibrations.

In perspective.......I have the greddy evoII exhuast, and I paid almost a grand, and got maybe 12 horsepower, with the cat delete.......so, if i can get 8 horsepower gain somewhere in the power band, for under 400 dollars....Im going to do it, evrytime


but again, k pro is the shit, and im not knocking it...but being a husband and a father of three, its going to be hard to justify 3 grand at one time to get k pro


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: Icebox on August 26, 2010, 12:34:33 PM
its going to be hard to justify 3 grand at one time to get k pro
where did you get the info that kpro costs 3 grand?


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: CurrentStatus on August 26, 2010, 12:50:02 PM
well, you gotta get a custom harness....I asked cham for a price, and he didnt get back to me, so I had to get a quote from a mod shop. then you have to get the 06 rsx type s ecu, and have it k pro'ed, then you have get a tune and dyno......around here, at fort riley in ks, it will be a total of about 2800


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: Icebox on August 26, 2010, 01:10:52 PM
that is way over priced, you can get a kproed ecu for under a grand on k20.org, the harness is only around 300 and if you needed that, talk to tim. he can get a hold a cham. as for the tuning, you looking at anywhere from 5-7 hundred.  the power programmer is a very basic reflash that is not customized to your modifications. however kpro can be custom tailored to your needs and can be altered as you modify your car futhur. if your anything like me, the mods keep coming and having the ability to alter the tuning for that is well worth the extra cost.


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: CurrentStatus on August 26, 2010, 02:01:52 PM
+1      Mods keep coming, and yes, way overpriced....thnx for the info
k20.org for ecu already k pro'd, tt tim for contact with cham, and tune.......got it....thats such a relief, ive been going crazee trying to get this shit straight


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: CrackerTeg on August 27, 2010, 05:30:50 AM
You also picked a vehicle that isn't officially supported by Hondata. What Cham and a few others have achieved with the harness for our cars is basically emulating the TSX dual ECU setup Hondata created.


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: Icebox on August 27, 2010, 08:03:39 AM
You also picked a vehicle that isn't officially supported by Hondata. What Cham and a few others have achieved with the harness for our cars is basically emulating the TSX dual ECU setup Hondata created.
you mean copied?


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: timot_one on August 27, 2010, 08:17:12 AM
Actually, Hondata copied the idea of the dual ECU harness from Cham.  Regardless, it is possible to run kpro with either the dual ECU harness or with Paul's conversion using the RSX cluster.  I can understand why people would want to save money and go with something less expensive.  Kpro is not cheap when compared to other alternatives.  The power programmer thing may be an option for some people, because I don't feel that kpro is necessary for guys that have bolt ons.  I'd say it has it's place in the niche of the market we are part of.  I just don't think you'd want the power programmer for a built motor.  If you realize the limitations and draw backs of each option, and using the right product for your application, you should be fine.


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: CrackerTeg on August 30, 2010, 05:44:04 AM
I stand corrected. I wasn't there from the beginning so I'm not fully versed. My bad.


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: timot_one on August 30, 2010, 08:05:50 AM
It's okay.  Not everyone is an old fart like me.


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: CrackerTeg on August 30, 2010, 08:41:18 AM
Yes. Old. Fart. Two words that describe you rather well.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: Icebox on August 30, 2010, 12:06:49 PM
Actually, Hondata copied the idea of the dual ECU harness from Cham. 
thats what i was referring to.


Title: Re: Max Energy Sport Power Programmer
Post by: timot_one on August 30, 2010, 12:36:05 PM
Ahh.  It was hard to tell who you were referring to who copied who.  Anyway, it's worth a shot for anyone that has basic bolt ons.  For those that have a built motor, it really won't do much for you.


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