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The wait is over folks, Ingalls finally released the ETD for 7G's!!! I purchased mine last night and I will provide my install pics and instructions when I receive the unit! Stay tuned!

They also made one for the V6 as well. I might get this and have a dual ETD.  

true that!

Hopefully I'll be talking to Adam at Ingalls on Monday to exchange my TSX TQ damper (NIB) with the one they made for the Accord.  I'll try and get some pics up when I get mine too.

hell yeah dude I've been waiting forever and a damn day to get my hands on one of these pieces...

Ok I have an update for you guys.  I installed the torque damper yesterday at work.  Here is where the list of problems and complications starts:

1.  The ETD is not compatible with under-drive pulley kits due to the increased diameter of the power steering pulley.  The engine mount bracket will touch the power steering pulley and cannot be installed as packaged.  If you have an under-drive pulley kit regardless of manufacturer, you will need to remove about a half inch of material off of the bracket in order to sufficiently clear the power steering pulley.  I will post pictures of this at my next earliest convenience and I will develop the DIY with this modification in mind.

2.  The ETD is not compatible with a neuspeed upper strut bar (as well as probably the rest of the lot).  The ETD chassis bracket is rather thick and will prevent the use of a strut tower bar.  In order to correct this problem, you will need to find or fabricate spacers for the three other strut tower bar mounting locations in order to use both the ETD and a strut tower bar.  If you install the ETD you will lose the use of your strut tower bar until you find or fabricate spacers.

3.  When I start my engine or launch in first gear at any RPM I hear a tapping noise.  I am investigating the source and feel that it may be the stock strut brace conctacting the adjacent bend in the ETD's chassis mounting bracket.  I intend to use washers under the bolts holding the brace to the ETD mounting bracket in order to give the strut tower brace more clearance.  Hopefully this solves the problem.  If not, it's time to break out the chassis-ear and the headset and test drive endlessly for NVH.

On the positive side of things..IT WORKS!!

Hook up some pics Skippy.  I talked to someone at Ingalls today and he said that we should send in pictures of what needs to be changed for the pulleys to clear the bracket.  This could help make rolling changes for future manufacturing.

I'm also a little confused about what you mean by fabricating spacers for the other STB mounting locations.  Care to draw up a diagram or something so I can get a better idea of what you mean?

I'm afraid that if I attempt to draw a schematic, it will look anything but what I want to show...so I'll put it into better words...

Your strut tower bar has 4 places where it bolts to the chassis.  The torque damper raises one of those spots up because it sits there.  The other three are factory height.  You can't bolt the bar down flat because it will be raised up in one corner...you need to raise the other 3 corners a comparable height before the bar will bolt down flat again.

Gotcha.  That's easy enough to understand.  I bet you could probably pull it off with some washers if you want to be ghetto about it.  I'm sure you can also just get some spacers machined like you mentioned.

I just wanted to add that it works fine, you do not need to machine the engine mount bracket. That engine mount moves vertically with the car, it will never move horizontal. However, with the pulleys, if you want to be safe, you can machine it just a little bit to make sure. To top it off, its great!

Where are the fucking pictures Skippy?  Am I gonna have to take pictures when I install mine?

I can take pics of mine, it takes 1/2 hour to install...

Where are the fucking pics Mike?

Am I gonna be the person that actually posts install pics?  I guess I will be.  As soon as I get the spacers for my Neuspeed bar, I'll be doing my install.

I found this on the Ingalls website. It has installation instructions and pictures.

http://www.ingallseng.com/Instructions/93041.pdf (http://www.ingallseng.com/Instructions/93041.pdf)

Yeah, that's a good resource.  When I got my ETD, it came with Jeep installation instructions.

lol first it's "skippy where are the fucking pics" then it's "Mike where are the fucking pics"..I love it!

Soooo where are the fucking pics Skippy!!? LOL!!!

I think all three of us have promised pics and none of us have followed through.  This is one of those mods that you could have an 8 year old do though.  I'll try to see if I can remember to take pictures when we install Keith's ETD.  I am confident that we can knock out the install and take pictures at the same time.

Alright, here are the "WTFs" in order:

"Where the fuck are the pics Skip?!"

"Where the fuck are the pics Mike?!"

And finally,

"Where the fuck are the pics Tim?!"

Fucking slackers.

Holy fucking hell. I'm quoting myself.

+1

Pfft, Tim is one to talk about not posting pics!

so why does the accord's mount have 4 holes, while the TSX's mount has 2? the bracket that goes near the top of the front strut.

That's because we're "special."

lol you wouldn't happen to know if it makes a difference would ya? on ebay the ETD for our cars is 160 shipped, while i found a TSX ETD for 140 buy it now or best offer...so trying to figure out how much of a difference there is between the two...if any.

I don't know personally, but from what I've read, they're essentially the exact same thing just a different mounting plate as you've already seen. I think Tim had the TSX one and had it switched for the Accord one. I don't remember why.

i bought the tsx one before the accord one was available and modded it to work for the accord.

im assuming there was a noticeable difference in acceleration?

It keeps the engine from flexing which transfers more usable power to the ground. Which means less wheel hop which in turn means better acceleration provided you have good tires.

Z have you installed yours yet? Got any Pics? I might be picking one up today. Maybe ill be the one posting up pics! Lol

Dude, I installed mine months ago and didn't take pics. I guess I'm next on the list for fucking pics that never got posted.  :laugh:

Dude what difference have you noticed. I know waht to expect but i felt like asking anyway

I would like to no also, I'm reading the installation instructions and seeing the pictures of the Stiffy which looks really small...anyone notice any difference?

The main difference is less wheel hop.

Add me to the "where are the fucking pics" list. I installed it last at a mall parking lot. lol so there wasn't much time to take any. As for the difference all I have noticed so far is, smoother shifting!

I might have to get one of these for my car to help out the motor mount situation.

it is well worth the investent for the performance increase.

Most definitely worth the investment. Even with stock everything, save for bolt ons, I've been able to chirp third. Not easy to do with our underpowered eco VTEC drivetrains. Obviously, I drive my car pretty hard.

I wonder if the amount of cutting out of the bracket required for an underdrive pulley can hinder its performance at all...

didnt affect me one bit, i had the torque dampner before the pulleys and its been about two years since they were installed and they still work together just fine.

Wait, so did you end up making the cut out of the bracket to make room for the underdrive pulleys?

I never cut anything for my underdrive pulleys.  There was only a hair of clearance, but I never had any problems.

yes i did, just like skippy said, only about a half inch at most. and it was the bracket that got cut, not the pulleys

I bought mine used and it already came cut to fit with UR pulleys. The performance gains are definitely noticeable. Car shifts better, slightly rigid chassis, and quicker throttle response. I love my ETD!

Has anyone used the neuspeed stb without spacers or washers? I bolted mine right up without anything. And to top it off i stripped a stud

Well, the point of the spacers is to keep the strut tower bar's mounts all on the same plane. when you raise up one or two of the mounts for the STB, you've just angled the whole plane of the bar, which mean's you'll end up tightening nuts onto an angled mount. That's the whole reasoning behind putting the spacers on the other mounts. I highly advise putting spacers on.

Edit: I just found this (http://www.ingallseng.com/Instructions/93041.pdf) when looking around on Ingall's website. There's your illustrated DIY. :P

I can always lie and say that's my car in the pictures but that wouldn't be cool.