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Title: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on December 24, 2010, 02:34:34 AM
does anyone know the flow rate of the stock fuel injectors of the K24a4?

i wanna know how much extra power i can add/make using the stock injectors.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on December 24, 2010, 08:52:04 AM
They are 270cc injectors.  You will be fine with basic bolt ons using the 270cc injectors.  Even with the "stage 1" SC kits that Comptech sells for the RSX/TSX, you can continue using the 310cc injectors that come with them.  What exactly were you planning on doing?  What engine management are you running?


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on December 24, 2010, 08:19:38 PM
i have just ordered the AEM short ram intake, dc ceramic headers, and skunk2 stage1 cams, and i'll be running e-manage ultimate.

any chance i'll be maxxing out the injector duty cycle with these mods??


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on December 24, 2010, 09:24:04 PM
You may come close, but why e-manage ultimate?


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on December 24, 2010, 09:57:18 PM
because of the unavailability of a TSX ECU for Hondata. parts are hard to come by around here. in fact im having the parts shipped in from CA. difficult to buy from non-store entities....  :(


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on December 24, 2010, 10:21:31 PM
You can't kpro a TSX ECU.  You will need to get either a PRB (RSX Type S), PND (Base RSX), PRC (Integra Type R), PNF (Civic Si), PRD (JDM Civic Type R), or PRA (EDM Civic Type R).  You are better off contacting Hondata and getting a kpro ECU from them directly.

You probably want to do some research first before you start wasting money on parts you can't use.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on December 24, 2010, 10:37:29 PM
you got it right on that one.

wonder why hondata won't make it easier for all of us right from the start...  ::)


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on December 24, 2010, 10:42:51 PM
There is not a lot of interest in modifying Accords when you compare it to Civics, Integras and RSXs.  There is really no benefit for them to develop a product for it.  There are also a lot of hurdles with the Accord ECU since it cannot be modified.  The only option is a dual ECU.  They just didn't seem to get it right for some reason, and there were reliability issues with that set up.  That's why they stopped making the dual ECU harness for the TSX.  Fortunately, k-tuned picked up the slack and made a dual ECU harness for the TSX.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on December 24, 2010, 10:46:25 PM
are Deatschwerks 450cc injectors a good upgrade from stock?

wanting to be prepared if i need to replace the stock ones.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on December 24, 2010, 10:50:10 PM
Acura RDX injectors are 410cc.  They are a better upgrade over stock.  They have OEM reliability and have a better spray pattern than aftermarket.  They are also less expensive.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on December 24, 2010, 11:01:49 PM
yeah you're spot on!

found a set for $195 + shipping. thanks!

www.hybrid-racing.com (http://www.hybrid-racing.com)


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on December 25, 2010, 09:20:13 AM
That's why we're here.  I may not know everything, but I know a little bit about what you're trying to do.  That's why we have a community like this though.  Among all the members here, there's a good amount of information in here to help other people.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: tennis on January 09, 2011, 09:49:42 PM
hey tell me how the skunk2 stage 1 cams fit


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on January 09, 2011, 11:16:43 PM
What does that have to do with OEM injector flow rates?  The Skunk2 camshafts should fit just fine.  What kind of question is that anyway?


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: tennis on January 09, 2011, 11:40:01 PM
cause i had some issue's when i did it and i think it might have been the installer... just wanted to see how his turned out


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on January 11, 2011, 07:59:23 AM
Acura RDX injectors are 410cc.  They are a better upgrade over stock. 

forgot to ask if these fit without any modifications like spacers, wiring sockets and clips?


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on January 11, 2011, 08:31:00 AM
They fit just fine.  The only thing you have to do is re-wire the injector clips with the ones that come with the ones from Hybrid Racing.  That's thread may help you understand what's involved.  

DIY: RDC 410cc Injector Upgrade (http://elitecm.net/forums/index.php?topic=1175.0)

We do have a K Series Engine Performance Forum.  It may help to browse through that section.  A lot of your questions can be answered there with a little bit of research.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on January 11, 2011, 08:45:06 AM
im not sure if i really need an injector upgrade. do i wait for the stock ones to max out first before buying them?

up to how much power do the 270cc injectors support anyway?


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on January 11, 2011, 09:05:54 AM
Around 180-200 hp.  A very simple upgrade would be to get a set of RSX-S or TSX 310cc injectors.  Those will support up to 250 whp.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on January 11, 2011, 09:39:15 AM
do i also need to swap sockets and clips with the TSX injectors?


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on January 11, 2011, 10:22:47 PM
I'm 99.9% sure they are the same.  I'll have to double check later after I move.  I have a few sets of Accord and TSX injectors, and an Accord and TSX engine harness.  The problem is that I've already packed them away since I'm about to move to a new state.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on January 11, 2011, 11:14:46 PM
Tim you're such a big help!

in the meantime i'm waiting for my parts to ship out from the US. i have just received an email yesterday that the skunk2 stage1 cams were on backorder for about 30-45 days, so i opted for the stage2. also had a sudden order of dual valvesprings and titanium retainers with those. whew!!


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on January 11, 2011, 11:25:54 PM
I hope the stage 2's work out for you man.  Swapping the valvesprings and retainers is a must for those cams.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on January 11, 2011, 11:30:30 PM
yeah getting excited over this whole engine mod mania. the cams are set to arrive with the intake, headers, and some other bits and pieces.

do you know where i can get those stock tsx injectors cheap? im using a credit card.  :)


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on January 12, 2011, 12:00:25 AM
Try Acura.  What header did you get?


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on January 12, 2011, 12:05:52 AM
the DC ceramic. crappy choice?

i already have a flexpipe waiting just in case.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: timot_one on January 12, 2011, 12:10:44 AM
Well, it's an inexpensive header.  It is a decent bolt on, but a more expensive race header is appropriate for a built motor.


Title: Re: K24a4 injector flow rate?
Post by: fatbastard on January 12, 2011, 12:13:06 AM
i'll consider the SSR header if my motor pumps out decent gains with what i'll be installing. looking at a final tune of 200hp.


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