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I have a 2003 automatic.  This started yesterday:  
I was trying to pull out of a parking lot, but my shift knob was stuck in Park, no matter how hard I tried to push down on the button.  I thought it was a fluke thing, so I just popped the panel up from around the knob so I could gain access to the white "override" tab, and upon pushing it down, I was able to get out of park.  Unfortunately, this isn't a fluke, and it keesp happening every time I engage park, so I have to shove my hand under the panel every time and override the mechanism.  I removed my shift knob to see if that was the culprit, but it's not.  All other gears (N, D, etc.) work just as they should, so just park is the only issue.  I have been able to get it to engage half-ass so that the mechanism doesn't fully lock and I can therefore get it out of park, but once it "clicks" and fully locks into park, it's stuck.  So, is this a known issue?  Broken mechanism?  I know when you engage and disengage park, you can hear a clicking noise in the dash area... maybe a sensor is busted?  Either way, this is a pain in the balls and I need help!!  :mad:

I had the same thing go wrong in my 03, dealer fixed it, forget what they did, brake solinoid, I think, basically you have to put the brake down to get out of park, if the solineiod is bad no shifting got you...at stop light sorry for spelling

I just text you the info... It's the Cruise Control and Stop switch. Part #7 in the diagram. I changed mine recently because it was causing and issue with my TCS. Here is a link, even though I text you the part number. This fixed my issues should work for you as well it's $5.41 so its clearly the place to start any how.

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=ACCORD&catcgry2=2003&catcgry3=4DR+LX&catcgry4=KA5AT&catcgry5=PEDAL (http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=ACCORD&catcgry2=2003&catcgry3=4DR+LX&catcgry4=KA5AT&catcgry5=PEDAL)

i also had that same issue..just change out the cruise control and stop switch and it will take care of your problem..

Sounds like all three of you guys are describing a similar fix which makes me confident that that's what it is.  All I keep thinking though is "Man, if there's something wrong with the shift knob assembly, I swear to God...".  I believe we all have '03/'04  models too, so maybe this is a common thing?  I'll keep you guys posted on how this goes...

And Mike, thanks for all the quick texts.  I'll let you know when I get the part from Dickhead... I mean "Majestic" Honda.

Majestic has always been really good to me. They actually changed the design of the switch a little bit. It's physically slightly different in size.

I have the same issue intermittently.  I figured it was that switch when I was looking at the pedal.  Another thing I noticed that when you can't shift out of park, the brake lights don't come one but once I shift out of park with the override the brake lights work normally.  Weird huh?

Actually, this is a very good indicator to test and see if my problem definitely lies with the sensor at the brake pedal, because it the brake lights don't come on, than you can tell for sure that it's an isue at the sensor and not in the shift mechanism.  I'll test this out tomorrow!

My lights worked perfectly and my issue was with the switch.

Well, tonight I tested out Milan's point that the brake lights would be having issues too, and I was shocked at the end result.  Not only do my brake lights not come on when I'm stuck in Park and the brake pedal is pressed, but they don't even come on AT ALL, regardless of what gear I'm in!  I might've been driving around for a few days with absolutely no brake light functions!  Total safety hazard.  I really need to get the part listed above and hope that this is the right fix or else I'm f'd in the a.

I'd venture to guess that the switch replacement would solve all your problems Dave. Come to think of it, I'm going to have to find out if my brake lights are still functional. Guess that'll happen the next time my brother goes to drive my car around to keep it from lot rotting.

did you order it already Dave?

I picked up the switch on Friday before work and installed it today.  It did NOT fix the problem, so I still have a stuck shifter in Park and no brake lights at all.  My patience is all but done.

Does your horn work?  If it doesn't, check fuse 13 in your under hood fuse box.  I have the service manual and electrical manual if you need me to come down there and help you test it. 

Does your car have cruise control/ do your brake lights still not work?

I don't remember it being called a cruise crontrol swtich.

Dave,
When you press on the brake do you hear a click? If not, that's your issue. There's a safety mechanisim in there so you have to press the brake to move the shifter. Like I said, I thought it was called something else, I could be wrong. GL

Your wrong! The click you here is from the cruise control/ stop switch it is disengaged when the brake is depressed, and is a super common problem in Accords.


Dave,

Do the lights come on when the switch is unplugged? If so the part they sold you may be faulty. If the light stay out with the switch unplugged I would check the wires going to it for power.

I'm going to wait to hear from Dave on this one.  If the fuse in the under hood fuse box is blown, his horn will also not work.  Either way, I have the service manual and the wiring diagram for this stuff.  I'm pretty sure we can figure it out once I get my eyes and a DMM on his car to check things out.  

 :drinks: :gay:

So I was stressin all weekend, and this morning I had some time to test out Tim's theory.  I went into the car, and sure enough, the horn didn't work either.  So, I went under the hood and pulled fuse #13 (20A) and replaced it with one that I knew worked.  And WALLAH!  My horn works, my shifter disengages, and my brake lights work again!!  Apparently, all of these ill-effects (stuck shifter, no brake lights, no horn) were the result of a blown less than $1 fuse!  So, I will be going back to the dealership to return the brake switch that I don't need, and I'll pick up a new fuse somewhere for cheap.  I'm curious now to see if the fuse may have blown because I have some other underlying problem in my car, or could it just be attributed to the fact that the fuse is 7+ years old and nothing lasts forever?

As a side note, I want to really thank everyone who helped me with this issue.  This is the reason why ECM is the shiz and we are here to help.  You guys saved me more stress and lost money that I would have spent at the dealer for a fuse change!  Positive rep for everyone here who helped, but especially for Tim who got it right!  Thanks... I owe you weinas!

EDIT:  You gotta wait an hour between each rep vote... dumb!

Dave I would keep that brake switch. The cost was less than $10, and alot of people have had to replace them. I'm assuming the design was a little different also?

As horrible as this sounds, I need the money and not extra parts in my house.  As for the design, it was exactly the same as the one that was already on my car... no change at all.

Hmmmm... The V6 one had some changes to it.

That's because the k24 pwns you Mike! Just playin'. But seriously.

Anyway, glad you got it fixed Dave. I can't believe it was something that simply retarded. Who would've thought?

Win!!

I didn't, that's for sure.  But Tim did.  So schmaatt.

That's because I'm dumb enough to think of that simple shit. 

Those be some choice words. I tend to overlook the simple shit.

I tend to overTHINK the simple shit.

Dave, you tend to over think everything.

True... true.

Cool, glad to hear you got it fixed!  Mine hasn't been acting up lately but it comes and goes. 

i had the same problem last week, turned out it was a problem tail light bulb. i thought it was the damn fuse but it wasnt. i have no clue how that relates. but does everyone else have the same problem with the 03 AT?

It relates because they are all part of the same circuit.  I've been scouring my wiring diagrams, but have been unable to find a complete circuit that shows everything in my service manuals.  From what I can tell, the only way it wouldn't work is if all of your brake lights went out, not just one of them.

Anyway, back to the OP.  Dave called me yesterday because the problem came back.  He said his fuse blew again, so he replaced it and it immediately blew again as soon as he stepped on the brakes.  I assumed that there was a short somewhere within his brake lights and suggested he check all his bulbs.  He discovered there was a damaged for his brake light in his spoiler.  The wire insulation was worn away and bare wire was exposed.  As soon as he stepped on the brakes, there was a dead short and the fuse did it's job.  We were able to fix it today and prevent it from happening again by installing a grommet in the hole the wire passes through.

^ Yes.  I started blowing fuses again and running into the same problem as before.  Upon checking on some of the brake components' wiring, I noticed that my spoiler brake light wire had torn open where it was passing through the trunk lid, so the bare wire was touching the metal, as Tim had explained.  The electrical shorts & all of these weird problems were thus  a result of my shitty wiring decisions in the past.  Hopefully, it's all fixed now, and Tim doesn't crack on me for the next few years.   :'(

I have a feeling you will hear it. I get made fun of for fucking bumper clips.

The tough thing is that the hole for the wiring is in the wrong place.  It should be passing through the trunk where the hole is on the spoiler instead of near the holes for the bolts to hold it in place.  The problem is that the wire is passing through on the outside of the weather strip.  If it were me, I'd drill a hole in the trunk in the right spot.  I just didn't want to drill more holes in your car yesterday.

I'm not sure if this is in any way related but yesterday my ABS light came on.  I drove on it and turned the car on and off a few times while doing some errands.  It stayed on every single time.  When I got off of work though that same day it turned off and hasn't come back yet. 

It is Milan. When I had this issues the abs, and traction control lights came on

Well, to be fair, the issue that Dave was having was caused by something totally different.  Milan, is your car also getting stuck in park?  Your post wasn't clear whether you couldn't shift out of park, or if your ABS light was just stuck on.

Actually Tim he states else where in this thread that his shifter gets stuck in park intermittently.

Ohh.  I was just going on what I read in his last post.  I'm glad someone's paying attention.

Paying attention is for pussies! Or is it the other way around?

Yeah Tim, my shifter gets stuck in P and the brake lights don't come on when that happens.  The ABS light hasn't come on since but it gets stuck in park once in a while. 

Does your horn work when this happens?  If it doesn't work, then you need to replace the fuse 13 in the fuse box under the hood.  If that checks out, you can test the brake pedal position switch.  There should be continuity between terminals 1 & 2, and terminals 3 & 4 when you press the brake pedal.  Make sure that the pedal height or switch position isn't causing the problem also (the switch doesn't disengage fully).  If you don't have continuity, then you need to replace the switch like Mike said.

Yeah, horn works.  How the heck to I check the continuity?

You need a digital multi meter.  There is a continuity setting on it.

If you don't have a DMM buying the switch will be cheaper.

Good point.  If it doesn't work, you can always return it. 

Returns kick ass.  Just be aware that some dealerships will give you crap for trying to return opened electronic parts.  I should know.

Majestic Honda just sucks in general when it comes to their customer service.  They are dicks about everything and keep shitty records.

You can say that again.  You have no idea the headaches...

Actually I do.  I will never give them my business ever again.  Bernardi Honda is a lot better, much closer, and friendlier.

I have never had these problems with Majestic. They have always treated me wonderfully

Wait until you have a problem.

I've had several including a faulty switch when I had this particular issue they exchanged it for me with 0 problems.

I've had horrible experiences when I tried to get my clutch master cylinder replaced under warranty.  It took me a week to get a hold of them over the phone.  When they finally got around to replacing it, they sent me the wrong part.  Then they said that they had no record of me purchasing a clutch master cylinder from them.  They sent me a slave cylinder instead.  Maybe you've dealt with them in person, but their phone service was awful.  I will never buy anything from them ever again.  At least when I call Bernardi, they don't treat you like a complete piece of shit.

Anyway, back on topic.  Milan, have you replaced the switch yet?

The Majestic Honda in Warwick tends to be a little better than the Majestic in Lincoln, RI.

But the parts cost more. I have them do all my work but, I buy the parts online pick them up and bring them to Warwick.

Sup guys haven't been on in awhile, some crazy shit just happened to my car need help. I have an automatic, when I press on the brake to take the car out of park and into drive or reverse it wouldn't move. Usually you hear a click tat basically tells you the latch unhooked n your able to move the car out of park, but no click. So I had to use the override to put it into drive. Also my brake light aren't working, when I press on the brake the lights don't light up. The lights are on when my headlights are on. Would like some feedback, and I'm thinking maybe its a fuse. Ill take a closer look tomorrow since its downpouring outside, thanks!

I understand that you are under pressure, and this is why you posted your own thread but, this has been discussed before, and you left out alot of details. The year and trim of your car specifically.

See this thread, and check the fuse if thats not it its likely the switch that is talked about. I'm going to lock this thread after you have a chance to look at the other one respond here. I don't want to lock it down until i'm sure its the same issue.

http://elitecm.net/forums/index.php?topic=3241.15 (http://elitecm.net/forums/index.php?topic=3241.15)

Go to the dealer and buy a new cruise control switch for the brake pedal.. That will take care of the problem of being stuck onin park and brake lights..this was one of my first problems I had after I got my accord.. Look for the switch right behind the brake pedal and replace it..it shoul'nt take you more than 20 mins to replace.

I'm guessing number 7 is the switch?? http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=ACCORD&catcgry2=2003&catcgry3=4DR+LX&catcgry4=KA5AT&catcgry5=PEDAL (http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=ACCORD&catcgry2=2003&catcgry3=4DR+LX&catcgry4=KA5AT&catcgry5=PEDAL) also where exactly is it....and I'm going to go take a look at the fuse in the morning since I dnt have a garage n it's raining

The reason I referred you to the other thread is because its not always the switch! It is 7 though

Ya I no, I just checked the fuse and its finecrazy thing though I walked into my car and I was able to move the shifter witout overiding n my brake lights r now working

The brake switch is bad if your fuse is fine. Did you do a continuity test on the fuse or swap in a known good one? Obviously, fuses are cheaper and easier to replace. The brake switch is located on the brake pedal itself. It has a button on it that is actuated by the brake pedal arm.

It's also the switch going bad if it happens once in a while. It's under $10 just bite the bullet.

Word. Its a bit awkward to replace but it is a quick job.

ok its all good now lol. Bought the part, changed it in like 10mins. I didn't realize i needed to turn it to lock the switch, but  Everything is good so far Thanks guys, mike u can go ahead and lock the thread

Glad we could help...

Could be an electrical short somewhere.  Just sayin.  Not that I would know or anything...  :finger:

It's already fixed Dave lol...

Topics merged.

Oh my god! Im so glad I found this thread!  My car just started doing this! I was stuck in a parking lot for 15 minutes the other day trying to get it out of park! No doubt i'll be checking out the cruise control...this place is awesome :)