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Title: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Arielit0oo on August 25, 2010, 11:27:43 AM
Hey guys, sometimes,but not a lot, my right HID doesn't turn on when I turn on my car or it flickers then turns off. Its all resolved when I turn em off and back on. Why is this happening?

Thanks ;)


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Lemonjelly on August 25, 2010, 01:42:02 PM
could you give us a little more into about your setup?

Are you running an aftermarket harness or are they plugged right into the headlight harness?


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: timot_one on August 25, 2010, 02:15:54 PM
+1 on what Steve said. 


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Mike on August 25, 2010, 02:23:29 PM
I have this issue too... I'm interested to here what you are running for a set up also.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: nodrog321 on August 25, 2010, 04:58:11 PM
i had the same exact problem. my drivers side bulb goes on for about 2 seconds and turns off and works after the second time turning them on.

fixed the problem by installing a relay.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Arielit0oo on August 25, 2010, 06:47:22 PM
could you give us a little more into about your setup?

Are you running an aftermarket harness or are they plugged right into the headlight harness?
I'm pretty sure they're plugged right in the headlight harness


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Mike on August 25, 2010, 07:34:03 PM
I have relays d'OH


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Rich01 on August 25, 2010, 11:52:50 PM
I had this issue a few weeks after I did my Retro and installed my HID kit last summer. My setup consist of a relay and fuse coming from the power wire going to the battery. I use the driver side headlight power wire to trigger the relay, which in turn pulls power directly from the battery to the ballasts. (sorry for the rambling, but this is a typical relay harness setup). After checking the connectors, I found that the light that was flickering had a loose connector at the bulb. I pushed it back on securely and it's been fine ever since. I would start by at least checking all connections first. Hope this helps.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Arielit0oo on August 26, 2010, 01:09:20 AM
thanks guys, ill check it out


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Lemonjelly on August 26, 2010, 09:13:06 AM
+1 to what Rich said, first step is checking all the connections.

Mike, replace the relay. Every time I have problems where only one hid is lighting something has gone awry with the relay and replacing it fixes my problems. HOWEVER if replacing the relay doesn't fix your problems, try tightening all your grounds. I doubt if Tim installed the harness a ground is lose, but stranger things have happened...


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Mike on August 26, 2010, 09:21:29 AM
The ground is to the battery terminal so I'd imigine it's good. Also all of my head lights run off the same ground and power wires. My assumption would be that if it were a wiring issue(or ground) it would effect all the lights.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Lemonjelly on August 26, 2010, 09:48:57 AM
you are running a retrofit harness right? So you have a power wire running from your battery to a fuse then to a relay then you have 2 power wires running out of the relay to your ballasts correct?

I have a VERY similar setup, the only different is that i have a ground at each ballast connection as opposed to running them back to the neg battery terminal. Every time that I have had a problem with one light not working I have pulled my bumper, checked all the grounds and other connections and it has always ended up being the relay. My first time dealing with this problem I also thought it would have had to been the wiring or connection issue, but after tracing it was proved wrong.

I am not around this weekend, but next week/weekend if you want to come up we can take a look at this. I have a few spare relays kicking around that we can try swapping in to see if it corrects the problem.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: jdmaccord on August 26, 2010, 10:10:10 AM
i had a problem with the connection and just replaced the bulbs and now they are working fine.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Mike on August 26, 2010, 11:27:25 AM
I have a spare relay. Tim built me a custom harness where each light uses an individual realy (both high and low beam) I'll try swapping out the relay, and switching the bulb around. DDM owes me a set of bulbs any way which they should be shipping out soon that I can try also.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on May 16, 2011, 08:28:22 AM
Okay so im having a similiar issue, my right headlight went out on me and after trouble shooting I found the fuse in the engine compartment was blown, I replaced and it blew again... I tried replacing the fuse once more after checking all my connection were good and it blew for a third time. Could it be a bad ballast?

EDIT:
I swapped out bulbs to make sure that wasn't the problem as well... Forgot to mention that I have a PNP hid kit.

Ayyee if it's not one thing it's another!


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Mike on May 16, 2011, 08:46:22 AM
Sounds like there is a short some where. I would look for some exposed wiring.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on May 16, 2011, 09:41:25 AM
Sounds like there is a short some where. I would look for some exposed wiring.

I don't think that an issue cuz it's PNP and everything looked okay... I unplugged and replugged everything nice and snug. I'm gonna get new ballast from Alex today and see if thats the issue! Gould just be a cheap HID kit I got from ebay... (crossing my fingers)


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Mike on May 16, 2011, 09:50:10 AM
I obviously don't know about your set up to much... Maybe it's a ballast PNP doesn't mean much a wire could be rubbing on something some where and worn though its protetive coating. Try unhooking the ballast you suspect and turn on your lights if the fust still blows it's not the ballast.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: timot_one on May 16, 2011, 10:00:17 AM
I would do something similar to what Mike suggested.  Disconnect the ballast and reconnect the stock halogen bulb.  If you are still blowing fuses, then it's not the HID kit you have, it's a problem with your wiring.  Usually, you blow fuses when there is too much current and the fuse blows to protect the device you're powering and to prevent your wire from burning.  I'm inclined to believe there is a short somewhere, as Mike suggested.  Whether it's your factory wiring, a wiring harness you may be using, or a bad ballast. 


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on May 16, 2011, 10:18:01 AM
I would do something similar to what Mike suggested.  Disconnect the ballast and reconnect the stock halogen bulb.  If you are still blowing fuses, then it's not the HID kit you have, it's a problem with your wiring.  Usually, you blow fuses when there is too much current and the fuse blows to protect the device you're powering and to prevent your wire from burning.  I'm inclined to believe there is a short somewhere, as Mike suggested.  Whether it's your factory wiring, a wiring harness you may be using, or a bad ballast.  

I was gonna actually disconnect everything and put the stock bulb and connection back in to check. I won't be able to do so until Wednesday though so I will be in touch with the thread lolz... Thanks for the feedback Mike and Tim.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: timot_one on May 16, 2011, 05:20:46 PM
Billy, you should have my number.  Text me if you need help.  I'll be in meetings all week, but I should be able to answer when I'm not busy.  If you want, you can PM me too, but I won't be online much this week.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: gargantula99 on May 16, 2011, 06:38:10 PM
The TTS hotline. I've used it before.  (Tim's Technical Support)


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on May 16, 2011, 06:41:26 PM
Billy, you should have my number.  Text me if you need help.  I'll be in meetings all week, but I should be able to answer when I'm not busy.  If you want, you can PM me too, but I won't be online much this week.

Had in my old phone, never got transferred over like most of my numbers! I'll PM you mine and my BBM

The TTS hotline. I've used it before.  (Tim's Technical Support)

LmaoOoo....  :D

...Hope I don't get charged per minute outside my plan


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: timot_one on May 16, 2011, 08:43:53 PM
Considering that I worked for the past 5 years in technical support for home theater systems and audio products, me helping you guys over the phone is no big deal.  The only difference is that I'm not getting paid, and I can tell you to fuck off and hang up if I want to.   ;)


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: cna on May 17, 2011, 02:14:32 AM
check for over heating some hids like my 55w's come with a auto off feature when the hid ballast get too hot they shut down always mount in a cool location has happen in the past to me and i also had to swap my fuses to 30amp never happen again after that


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on May 18, 2011, 01:48:19 PM
check for over heating some hids like my 55w's come with a auto off feature when the hid ballast get too hot they shut down always mount in a cool location has happen in the past to me and i also had to swap my fuses to 30amp never happen again after that
Not sure if it is a safe call swapping fuse for a larger amp...  :question:


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: CrackerTeg on May 18, 2011, 01:52:42 PM
Definitely not. You may fry something other than a fuse as a result.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: timot_one on May 18, 2011, 02:36:37 PM
The purpose of a fuse is to protect your wiring.  If you're passing more current than a wire can handle, it will catch on fire.  You may want to rethink your set up Clemente.  I'd suggest using a relay harness if this is connected to your OEM headlight connectors.  If you are using a relay harness already, make sure that your wire is the proper gauge for it's length to handle that amount of current.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on May 18, 2011, 06:58:35 PM
Okay so disconnected the ballast and just hooked up the stock plug to a stock 9006 bulb and it works fine. Wiring still good, ballast not so good. Hopefully the new ones Alex's sent me come tomorrow since I'm off so I can install....

Just a thought... how come the headlights run on a 10amp fuse and the fogs on a 20amp fuse? I would think that the headlights require a larger fuse...?

My current mood: Happy as a mofo cuz it's not the wiring!  :) :D ;D ;)


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Mike on May 18, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
Perhaps the relays used in the fogs require more current to operate?


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: timot_one on May 18, 2011, 10:00:08 PM
Actually, relays only require 150 mA to "close".  I'd have to look at a wiring diagram, but I think that each headlight has it's own relay and fuse.  I'm not 100% sure though.  I'll have to look at my service manual when I get home this weekend.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on May 18, 2011, 10:09:16 PM
Well getting what Tim PM'd me that the fogs run on one fuse would warrant the use of a 20amp fuse  :lamp:... I get that part now!

...itching for the damn mail already lolz!  :D


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: timot_one on May 18, 2011, 10:46:50 PM
I'm not 100% sure yet since I don't have my service manual down here with me.


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Arielit0oo on May 19, 2011, 03:13:52 AM
Damn, this thread is still alive? Lol

Well, for about 3 months, the same headlight started acting up... but HARD.
I dealt with it for a while since I didn't know what it was. I changed the H/L fuses like 2313211543 times, all got blown. I asked some of my friends and Arie (Mr Eazy) and they told me it's probably a blown ballast.
My friend gave me a spare ballast he had, swapped that baby in and BAM! HID working flawlessly lol


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: timot_one on May 19, 2011, 07:16:52 AM
So, you posted a thread about your problem, you were vague about the details of your set up, then just ignored the advice given in the thread you created, and just asked someone else?  Why would you create a thread asking for help about your problem if you were just going to ignore the advice and ask someone else? :mad6:


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: gargantula99 on May 19, 2011, 08:16:57 AM
For confirmation maybe?


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: Arielit0oo on May 19, 2011, 01:56:49 PM
So, you posted a thread about your problem, you were vague about the details of your set up, then just ignored the advice given in the thread you created, and just asked someone else?  Why would you create a thread asking for help about your problem if you were just going to ignore the advice and ask someone else? :mad6:

I actually did look at peoples advice, they told me to check my wiring to see if everything was plugged in correctly. After I made the thread though, I became inactive off elitecm. When I did come on(always for a short time) the topic became about someone elses problem so I didn't bother checking if someone had answered me.
The thread was made last August and its only until May 16ish I saw you answered Billys question and mentioned a bad ballast, which answered my problem as well. :D


Title: Re: one HID likes going out?
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on May 19, 2011, 08:18:04 PM
Well my issue is fixed with a new ballast! Turned out a loose connection between the ballast and the oem wiring shorted the ballast out!


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