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I'm asking the question while looking around for a set of rims for my car....

I want to know what is the most aggressive offset and width to have on both 18's and 19's without having to roll fenders? forgot to ask the best tire size to go with it too.
I am currently lowered on tein ssp's..so i can adjust height and stiffness as needed to make it work. i want minimal rubbage and camber wear...what are your recommendations? besides the 18x8.5 +45 offset

Width and offset will both play a factor into how aggressive you can get.  But that depends on how wide of a tire you want to run.

If you want to run a wider tire, then you'll want a wider wheel, but will need to get a higher offset.  You can get lower offsets by getting thinner wheels, but won't be able to get wider tires.

What do you want out of it?  More performance with a flush look?

Are you willing to slightly stretch tire?  Are you willing to adjust camber a little bit?

Why the hesitance to roll fenders?

I want the performance with the aggressive flush look.
Hesitant about rolling fenders because I never know if one day I wanna part out n go back to stock or sell the car. Or even screw up like many amateurs who end up havin cracks in their fenders with paint chipping off. I don't think I would be doing any tire stretching. I understand the whole thing about wider rims and offset. But I'm curious to the best setup you all have experienced with that requires minimal adjustment. Or would fit right in with what I have now and give me the performance and flush look.

There are many benefits to rolling fenders when you get aggressive wheel fitment.  Not only do you roll them to fit, you benefit from the risk of damage to the fender from the tire.  Not to mention, they help you to prevent rubbing.

As for amateurs rolling fenders, don't let an amateur roll your fenders.  Have it done by someone with experience.  Make sure they use a fender roller.  Don't use a baseball bat.

The reason I asked about tire stretch, is because a slight stretch (but still within the range of wheel width for the tire) with the proper tire and fitment can heed increased performance results.

You don't get flush fitment without rolling fenders.  And if you fit aggressive wheels, and just enough to clear your fender lip, you're risking potential damage to the fender.  And yes, people still tear their fender with aggressive fitment and rolled fenders, it just depends how aggressive the setup is.

Keep in mind, aggressive fitment changes how you drive your car.  It's not just the typical, I'm driving a lowered car, type of driving.

In my honest opinion, if you want better performance, look for wider wheels that will let you fit a wider tire and pick a really good tire for increased performance.  You'll need to pick a higher offset to clear the fender lip though.

Well it looks like I will have to find a pro fender roller first in that case.
Then I will have to skip over that hard ship.
My car is a daily driver in an all season climate with some snow so I don't want to go through all that extremity. Looks like I'll just save all this aggressive look and performance for my next ride and just stick to the stocks or at least 18x8.5 +45 setup if I get wheels for this one.... There goes that plan.

Gen's car is on 350Z rims which are 18x8 +30.  Lowered on Neuspeed Race springs there's no rubbing front or rear with no fender mods.  Keep in mind though that the camber isn't fixed since the drop.

Well I have the ingalls rear camber kit installed with my coilovers. My alignment is checked and tweaked as needed. So I'm good as far as that goes.
It's good to know that with that drop and setup he has no issues, I need to peep out how it looks again and I'll keep those specs in mind. And I need to find out what size tires its running on too.

I think the other thing that you need to be conscious of, is that the coupes are capable of running lower offsets than the sedans.  As much as I hate to say it, check out JT's threads.  He's a major wheel whore, and went berzerk with all the hellaflush bullshit.  He probably went through like 10 sets of wheels in the past year, so you can look at what he did to see if there's anything that you like that will actually fit and be safe.

Wow wheel shoppin is so difficult like taking a gf shoppin!

It's all a matter of what you like and how much you're willing to spend.  Which wheels have you been looking at?

I been wanting these:
Volk GT-S
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3APbOEwRFMgtQr6M%3A%3Awww.wheelsdirectonline.com%2Fvolk%2FGTS.htm&t=1&usg=AFrqEzdAdAWrhIfoaBA_UWugNP0kgy3vVQ)
Volk SF-challenge
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3Ah7tr2Y13oi_COM%3A%3Awww.superstreetonline.com%2Ffeaturedvehicles%2F130_0701_1997_nissan_240_sx_se%2Fphoto_10.html&t=1&usg=AFrqEzdO8wmrrrTMiVyFmoZJf4MJ9Z1WoA)
SSR MS1
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AklKirZykhtIriM%3A%3Awww.jdmjunkies-bn.com%2F2009%2F08%2Fssr-ms-1-rims-for-sale-used.html&t=1&usg=AFrqEzcEBHADdkTJ09b1xRiwRGSz0lPuLw)
Enkei EKM3
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3Ag1Db2LiuKGrJTM%3A%3Awww.rsxstore.com%2Fproduct.php%3Fproductid%3D2070%26cat%3D192%26bestseller%3DY&t=1&usg=AFrqEzeEtbi2lX2rB9A_QpL7hQaZ_hajiw)

I vote for the Volk GT-S or the Enkei EKM3.

My Gf votes for the ekm3. Now I need to determine the spec for rims n tires cuz im more likely to get those. You can view how low my car is sitting from my profile pics.

+1 to what Tim said. Go all black, chrome lips are getting kind of old. I like the Enkei's

The Volk GTS are sick.

She's got good taste.

Fixed.


I kid, I kid. Too easy.

  That too but we're not getn into that lol.

HOLY SHIT!!

Julie, you handle the lowered maturity of others well.

Back on topic now.  What are the available offsets and sizes for those Enkei's?  I've found that you kinda have to work with whatever the manufacturer makes, unless they offer custom sizes and offsets.

I really want all black wheels but those enkei ekm3 only comes in gunmetal or silver.
I was also lookin at the Motegi MR118. They come in all black 18x8 +45offset. Which I'm considering over Enkei ekm3. It's 1.6lbs lighter per wheel too... It's hard finding a wider rims tho, in case I want slightly wider tires (18x8.5), for wheels I like.
Motegi MR118
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AWeX7RdN5KhVazM%3A%3Awww.amazon.com%2Fs%3Fie%3DUTF8%26rh%3Dn%253A353598011%252Cp_76%253A1249128011%252Cp_rim_size-bin%253A18%2520inches%26page%3D1&t=1&usg=AFrqEzckPgdkEW0xsurO5AHI-lJ9KsMYEQ)

I really like those but the ekm3 in all black would look sexy.

Thanks for handling immaturity well. Not the end of it on the forums lol....

I wouldn't get Motegi's.  I just don't trust their quality.

Lol I think I receive comments similar to that often given my sexuality, especially from men (all age range: young n old). I don't take offense of it and usually handle it well unless it's negative and implies insult, or sometimes men take it way over their heads trying to benefit from it however they fantasize... But I think u all are smart enough to catch the drift here...

Anyhow, let's get back on topic!!

I'm really liking Motegi all black wheels.
The motegi mr118 is matte black. They are lighter and slightly cheaper than the Enkei Ekm3.
My interest sits stronger on the other 2 but I also found this: motegi mr2748 sp10 it comes in HYper black w/ clearcoat
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AVUVrzNj2U_O0jM%3A%3Adiscounttires.com%2Fshowroom2.php%3FbrandID%3D1207)

    well I don't know anything about it's quality.
Ok well I know that Tenzo also makes rims that look very much like the Enkei Ekm3. I'll look into it but I want all black.
What do u all think about the Advans RS? In black- I think theyr sexy too.
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AralCKNlMB1UwmM%3A%3Aforums.nasioc.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1606155%26page%3D2&t=1&usg=AFrqEzcY97rszvHr1Nfp7JtUdffnmRDMQQ)
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3ACneENPwUzZS-wM%3A%3Awww.e90post.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D6439317&t=1&usg=AFrqEzfFwQERzvnM3C-xsTgFTMqmyPAHdg)
how it looks on a Beamer:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3825378243_ea5d871775.jpg)

Definitely Advan over Motegi and Tenzo.

If you want black, there's also the SSR Type F in Flat Black.  Or Volk CE28N in Diamond Black.

I like the RS Advans because it's sorta concaved... I like that look. Yea I saw the ssr type f it's very much alike with just a few more spokes. I def want more bang for my $$. Now i must find a set in good condition used or brand new. Wheel shoppin is so hard. I'm more about the quality> brand name. I kno some are more prone to bend or crack than others and they are all capable of doin that. I really need to know how low of an offset 7gen coupes will allow at lowered height. What do u all think about 8 wide on the rims though?

8 inch wide is easily pulled off by sedans without rolling of fenders but most do it anyway. You can pull off a 9" wide wheel on your coupe. I'm just not too sure of the offset you would need to pull a more flush look.

ADVAN RS are amazing. Here is the deal JulsV6 I have to ask how much your willing to spend because the names and type of wheels being thrown around here vary way to much in price/quanity are you willing to spend the 1700+ on a set of ADVANS or Volks?

I want it to be flush but then again I'm not going to be the wheel queen/whore experimenting to find out. So if u fellas have the slightest idea or know, please do let me know so I can really search for the wheels that carries those specs.

it's possible that I can save up for set of those, but is it worth me spendn that much for a daily driver? Must I also mention that this area has plenty of pot holes and construction,so the quality and durability matters much. If theyr fairly close in quality I'd go with the cheaper one in case I need to replace the set.

Well generally the reason that cost so much more is the construction. 2nd biggest contributor to the price is importing. Enkei has been known to make some really strong wheels at fair prices. I've heard nothing but, bad things about Motegi, and Tenzo.

unfortunately, in the Honda world, quality and brand name go hand in hand.  same thing with wheels.  brand name wheels will typically be better quality.  that includes your typical name brands: Rays Engineering (Volk, Gram Lights, etc.), Work, SSR, Advan Racing, etc.

the reason i mentioned above about rolling fenders is as you get more aggressive, you risk the carnage like shown in this thread: http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=597934 (http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=597934" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

You can get wheels that will fit without rolling the fender, to the point where it just barely clears, but you run risk of the above.

I'm only here to help inform you.  I'm all for you getting new wheels.  I just want people to be better informed about their new mods :)

I agree.

So enkei would be the best bang for my $$$ ?? But theyr not black. How much it cost to get em custom black?

I completely understand everything you all share with me. I'm open to all of it. The reason why I decided to post and ask all this to begin with. I think more heads in a problem is better than one with little experience on the subject. So go ahead and feel free to share with me what you know

I'd get Advan over Motegi and Tenzo also.  You could also get whatever wheel you want, then have it powdercoated or painted however you want.

Powder coating would be the way to go as paint doesn't hold up too well. I've heard of people getting a full set of wheels powder coated for 200 and lower. Its just a matter of shopping around.

Not to mention if your going to PC'd route you can buy used wheels that are a little rough because it's your intention to have them re finished anyway.

I would be careful of a shop that charges that little.  To me, that's a sign of a place that cuts corners and the end result will not be as good as a shop that takes their time to do it right.  Based on some of the wheels that Julie is looking to get, it doesn't seem like she wants to cut corners.

I def dont want to cut corners. But if others can recommend a reputable spot i'd probably bring them business. Yeah hopefully i can find a set used. I think there's a guy on Acurazine sellin the Enkei Ekm3 gunmetal with slight curbage that occured after he posted (perfect to have powder coated gloss black), so now price has been reduced. have to see if he still has it available. and will check the specs. but i have not found the Advans RS or SSR type F..if u fellas spot a set on any forum .. please let me know. I'm really glad that you fellas are helping me out.

julsv6 the gunmetal are pretty much a black, i bought the silver if you see my posts

Dude, I'm totally with you on that but based on the wheels she's looking at, I would expect her to NOT cut corners. If Julie is planning on PCing the wheels anyway, used is the way to go because its almost a guarantee that they are going to be rashed.

Not always.  If I sold my wheels today, they are definitely used and definitely do not have any curbage.

i'm sure you can find wheels that look practically new used.  not all used wheels have curb rash.  some people know how to park.

True but most don't. I'm pretty wary about used wheels unless they've been refinished or dealer take offs if they're OEMs. Either way, we're arguing over our opinions.

I need West coast customs to come hook my ride up!! Lol

Please don't say that.

FYI EKM3 sells for chepaest at discount tire and right now 100$ any enkei set promotion

the only thing is you have to call to order them  (this is what i did in nov, same deal)

Still am undecided and have not had my question clarified to where I'm comfortable upgrading yet. So this will continue to wait out some more. 

gts or tha ssr looks good...

would you be interested in 19x8.5 +43 LE37T?

+40 with 8.5" seem to be max aggressive for CM Sedans, and +35 with 9" seems to be max aggressive for CM coupes.

JT IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!