Title: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: rich on May 27, 2010, 09:40:19 PM Ok so here's the scoop.
a month or so ago my car was really shaky (steering wheel and other interior parts) and the second i let off the steering wheel it immediately went to the right so i figured bad alignment...i went ahead and checked my tires and noticed my tires were wearing uneven and the RR had better tread than the LF, so i swapped them...the problem seemed to go away...it still pulled a little to the right but not immediately and a lot less shaking...so yesterday it started doing it again...havent looked at the tires yet but i know i need an alignment but should that fix it up? or is there something else i should be looking into getting fixed? basically when my hand was on the wheel tonight, my watch on my hand was shaking like crazy...i even saw my passenger seat shaking a lot...it seems to do it at lower speeds under 45 and lessens at higher speed but still does it, not as bad...when at dead stop, the second i take off if my hand isnt on the wheel, the wheel quickly jerks to the right.... if u have any other questions to kinda try to diagnose this, ask away and ill answer the best i can thanks Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: sherker55 on May 27, 2010, 09:46:58 PM well get an alignment and see if that fixes it...also, if you are rotating your tires regularly, there shouldn't be that much of a tread difference
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: CrackerTeg on May 27, 2010, 09:52:29 PM Moved to appropriate forum.
As for the shaking, sounds like an alignment issue as well as a wheel balance issue. Try the alignment first like Mark said and if you already have your car up on the rack, have them check your wheel balance. Hit any potholes lately? Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: timot_one on May 27, 2010, 10:13:12 PM If the alignment and rotating your tires doesn't fix it, then take a look at the axles and possibly wheel bearings.
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: rich on May 27, 2010, 11:40:37 PM eek, tim, if it comes down to that...that sounds like it ain't cheap...but my hope is alignment...the road i take north to get home, is pretty shitty. i tried to stay on the outside lane b/c less potholes that have been fixed, but still bumpy..i might have to start getting off at the next exit or finding another route...that is, after i get this fixed
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: rich on May 27, 2010, 11:41:34 PM oh and is it worth it to get my alignment BEFORE getting new tires? i would like to get this done but i think in about 4-5 months i'll need new tires...i just don't wanna double pay for an alignment but i would think just getting new tires, wouldnt screw up an alignment...or am i wrong?
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: MyNameIsThien on May 27, 2010, 11:44:01 PM Buy the lifetime alignment through Firestone.
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: neoryan7 on May 28, 2010, 03:44:46 AM ^ thats what i have, ive had my car aligned about 20 times in the past few years.
I was thinking axle, but have you had your ball joints checked? Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: timot_one on May 28, 2010, 08:11:00 AM I have the life time alignment with Firestone also.
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: CrackerTeg on May 28, 2010, 09:48:21 AM As do I. It costs double their standard alignment price but afterwards you don't pay shit. Totally worth it. I think I've had my car aligned about 6-8 times since last summer just to make sure shit's straight. Funny thing is, each time I've gone there's been slight adjustments made. You'd be surprised how easily alignments get thrown out of wack with daily driving over somewhat smooth road. I can imagine how fucked yours is if you're constantly "off roading" your car Rich on shit roads.
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: rich on May 28, 2010, 09:57:46 AM i thought Firestone doesn't do lowered cars. i think maybe the ones in my area can't because it seems the only places locally that work on lowered or modified cars, are really expensive. guess i'll have to make a few calls/stops next week as my next day off is next weds....i have no clue what a balljoint is and would have no idea where/what to start checking otherwise
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: sherker55 on May 28, 2010, 10:00:50 AM Quote from: "MyNameIsThien" Buy the lifetime alignment through Firestone. +++++++++++1,000,000 this is by far the best deal for any car when it comes to regular maintenance Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: CrackerTeg on May 28, 2010, 10:16:36 AM Balljoints are on your upper control arm that hook to your spindle. It's that bolt on a swivel with the castle nut at the top of the spindle. That's not the only one but it's the easiest one to see so you have an idea. As forr the lowered car thing, they don't do it because lowered cars have trouble getting on the racks. If they have wood to extend the ramps, you're good. If not, show up with your own.
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: MTsixspeed on May 30, 2010, 08:00:26 PM Quote from: "rich" ...i went ahead and checked my tires and noticed my tires were wearing uneven and the RR had better tread than the LF, so i swapped them... You rotated tires from one side to the other? I know with my tires, I can only rotate front to rear on the same side because the tread is directional. Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: rich on May 31, 2010, 11:26:59 PM oh shit dude. i completely forgot about that!....i remember someone told me this and i fixed it quickly...but i forgot about that...guess i will have them fix that too b/c my tires are directional
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: rich on June 09, 2010, 09:49:52 PM turns out it was the alignment and bad tires. i got brand new tires and mount/balance and alignment monday morn. feels like a new car!
the only bad thing he says my cv joints (4 up front) are going bad..doesnt need to be fixed asap but does need to be fixed. ill probably have them do it once its time to get my tires rotated Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: Asim on June 17, 2010, 06:05:56 PM I have a similar problem,
I just got an alignment after lowering + rims + camber kit... Rear is at OEM camber and toe specs, Front is -0.7 camber both sides and OEM caster spec EXCEPT right side has 7 extra than the left (so some cross caster here)... What happens when I drive is, it won't really pull per say but putting the steering wheel straight goes left easily, so on most roads I have to drive with the steering pointed to the right, im not sure what this is dependant on as on the highway i need to have it turned more than say on a regular street... A street with slope to the right needs less, street with slope to left needs more.. There is no sweet spot and I have to adjust constantly (I am used to it though) Prior to lowering, rims, camber kit, On my winter tires they would have the same problem except opposite direction... Back in the day with OEM tires they did this too ( I think after a rotation they changed directions again), those tires are bald now but wore evenly Any ideas? Not rotating often enough? Axel, ball joints? Stuff I can check myself will be great. I can remove the wheels and rotate them around if that helps (or to see if they change direction again) If there is nothing to be done, I can live with it as long as my tires wear evenly. FYI also just replaced front lower driver control arm when I got lowered! Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: MyNameIsThien on June 17, 2010, 06:14:40 PM If you can, show us your alignment printout from when you got your alignment. That way I can elimante what is causing your pull. It could be the tire itself.
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: Asim on June 17, 2010, 07:13:03 PM Quote from: "MyNameIsThien" If you can, show us your alignment printout from when you got your alignment. That way I can elimante what is causing your pull. It could be the tire itself. Tires weren't doing this before the drop, camber kit, alignment (they did the opposite direction like the winter tires that were on before) Don't got a printout but I memorized it pretty much Front: Front didn't get any adjustment as far as I recall Camber -0.7 -0.7 Toe 0 0 Caster 3.0 3.7 Rear: Camber -1 -1 (-2.5 -3.3 before for two weeks after camber kit install) Toe 0.15 0.15 (something crazy before, for two weeks after camber kit install) Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: MyNameIsThien on June 17, 2010, 08:43:32 PM On the front toe, is that total toe or individual toe? Who installed your suspension?
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: Asim on June 17, 2010, 08:48:39 PM should be individual, some brown guys with a shop installed my suspension (know them through family)... they aren't the best
but given the problem existed to an extend before i got suspension and stuff, lends me to believe the install was not the issue Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: CrackerTeg on June 17, 2010, 09:15:48 PM Quote from: "Asim" some brown guys with a shop installed my suspension (know them through family)... ![]() Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: Asim on June 17, 2010, 09:25:07 PM Quote from: "CrackerTeg" Quote from: "Asim" some brown guys with a shop installed my suspension (know them through family)... ![]() its not like they had to assemble my shocks and springs, they just had to remove and replace the old strut with my new ones Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: timot_one on June 17, 2010, 09:29:12 PM Quote from: "CrackerTeg" Quote from: "Asim" some brown guys with a shop installed my suspension (know them through family)... ![]() You gotta watch out for them brown people. Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: Asim on June 17, 2010, 09:37:13 PM Quote from: "timot_one" Quote from: "CrackerTeg" Quote from: "Asim" some brown guys with a shop installed my suspension (know them through family)... ![]() You gotta watch out for them brown people. Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: wtcii on June 17, 2010, 10:02:11 PM What are brown people?
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: Asim on June 17, 2010, 10:38:02 PM Quote from: "wtcii" What are brown people? pakistani (like me and those guys), indian, etcTitle: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: wtcii on June 18, 2010, 10:03:58 PM Ah, ok. Thanks!
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: sherker55 on June 18, 2010, 10:20:13 PM Wait, do Latino's count as brown too?
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: wtcii on June 18, 2010, 10:41:50 PM Yeah, that's what was throwing me off.
Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: Asim on June 18, 2010, 11:03:05 PM Quote from: "sherker55" Wait, do Latino's as brown too? nahh not for me, latino are latinoTitle: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: Asim on July 12, 2010, 11:44:57 PM so i've also noted that when i park, my passenger front wheel looks turned to the right more than the drivers side
any ideas what this points to? Title: Re: Does this problem have to do with alignment? something else? Post by: MyNameIsThien on July 12, 2010, 11:50:14 PM Out of alignment. Negative toe on the right front.
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