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Title: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: striktlyaccord on April 11, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
Been running my front Brembro blanks with Hawk HPS pads setup for over 2 1/2 years and have had pretty persistent break squeal, but it doesn't happen when I brake lightly or heavily, only moderately.  I had my mechanic cake some messy red anti-squeal goo behind the pads before the winter rolled in, and it helped for like 2 months before the noise came back again.  Anyone have any recommendations on another tactic to use?  My mechanic suggested that the "metal parts" on the calipers that the pads slide into can eventually wear down and cause rubbing and squealing, but I know nothing about this.  Maybe order new "metal parts" (can't remember the official name... shims?), or just blame it on it being an afermarket, noisy setup?  Help.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: MyNameIsThien on April 11, 2010, 11:28:59 PM
I blame it on the Hawk pads. I have the saem setup, and I get the occasional squeek. I blame it to the Hawk pads emitting off a lot of brake dust. First, I would put anti seize behind the pads. Second, I would lube the slide pins. I plan on resurfacing my rotors and deburring my pads to maybe help with the squeek. If all else fails, I'm getting new pads. I hate the squeek, and it annoys the crap out of me. The hardware itself will not cause your brakes to squeek. They are there to help the brake pads slide, and to keep it stationary.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: timot_one on April 12, 2010, 08:16:25 AM
+1 on the Hawk pads.  I had the same squeal with my Hawk pads.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: Mike on April 12, 2010, 09:44:26 AM
I've been running the hawk pads front and rear for a year + and don't have this issue at all.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: striktlyaccord on April 12, 2010, 10:00:39 PM
So it might possibly just be the composition of the pads... greeatttt.

Quote from: "MyNameIsThien"
I blame it on the Hawk pads. I have the saem setup, and I get the occasional squeek. I blame it to the Hawk pads emitting off a lot of brake dust. First, I would put anti seize behind the pads. Second, I would lube the slide pins. I plan on resurfacing my rotors and deburring my pads to maybe help with the squeek. If all else fails, I'm getting new pads. I hate the squeek, and it annoys the crap out of me. The hardware itself will not cause your brakes to squeek. They are there to help the brake pads slide, and to keep it stationary.

Thanks for the tips Thien.  So do you mean put more of the anti-squeal behind the pads (exactly what my mechanic did but it only helped for two months), or actual grey anti-seize that you'd typically use for bolt threads and stuff?  I might need to have my rotors rotated or resurfaced as well, as I'm getting some shudder again.  How do you "debur" pads exactly?


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: MyNameIsThien on April 12, 2010, 10:41:28 PM
Quote from: "striktlyaccord"
So it might possibly just be the composition of the pads... greeatttt.

Quote from: "MyNameIsThien"
I blame it on the Hawk pads. I have the saem setup, and I get the occasional squeek. I blame it to the Hawk pads emitting off a lot of brake dust. First, I would put anti seize behind the pads. Second, I would lube the slide pins. I plan on resurfacing my rotors and deburring my pads to maybe help with the squeek. If all else fails, I'm getting new pads. I hate the squeek, and it annoys the crap out of me. The hardware itself will not cause your brakes to squeek. They are there to help the brake pads slide, and to keep it stationary.

Thanks for the tips Thien.  So do you mean put more of the anti-squeal behind the pads (exactly what my mechanic did but it only helped for two months), or actual grey anti-seize that you'd typically use for bolt threads and stuff?  I might need to have my rotors rotated or resurfaced as well, as I'm getting some shudder again.  How do you "debur" pads exactly?

I usually put the grey anti "seize". It works great, and I use it on all the cars I work on. I rarely have comebacks when doing that. If you are getting a shudder, I highly suggest resurfacing them if there is room to resurface. As for deburring the pads, I usually just use the flat part of a concrete floor and just put a little force and rub the pad back and forth.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: sherker55 on April 12, 2010, 11:05:27 PM
I have used that red shit that is for brakes, it has worked since I did my GS caliper and Coupe bracket/rotor upgrade, which is like 6+ months now.  they just started to sqweek (htf do you spell that?!) again.  I am going to him them with some brake cleaner and re-apply the red schtuff.

Thien, any particular brand anti-sieze?


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: MyNameIsThien on April 12, 2010, 11:08:29 PM
No particular brand. All anti seize are the same.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: striktlyaccord on April 13, 2010, 08:52:59 PM
Thanks for all the info Thien.  I shouldn't have a problem resurfacing the rotors if they really need it since they've never been resurfaced before.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: sherker55 on April 13, 2010, 08:56:25 PM
I think pepboys does it for 10-15 $


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: striktlyaccord on April 15, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Pep Boys... "does everything for less" lol.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: striktlyaccord on April 24, 2010, 06:36:25 PM
When I cleaned up my brakes and wheel wells last week, I used some brake cleaner on the brake components, and the squeal stopped for like... 15 miles, then came back.  Joy.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: MyNameIsThien on April 24, 2010, 08:24:29 PM
Did you use brake cleaner on the rotors and pads? If so, thats why. Do not use brake cleaner on rotors or pads.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: timot_one on April 24, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
That's so confusing.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: sherker55 on April 24, 2010, 11:11:17 PM
yeah, why not Thien?  I was going to do that this weekend...


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: striktlyaccord on April 25, 2010, 10:50:51 AM
Yeh, wth?  If you can't use brake cleaner on rotors and stuff, than what CAN you use it on??  I didn't even let the stuff dry; everything got washed with soap and water at the same time.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: MyNameIsThien on April 25, 2010, 07:35:13 PM
You are suppose to use hot soapy water to clean rotors. You can use brake cleaner on new rotors to get the oil film off. Afterwards, you are suppose to use hot soapy water. Brake cleaner evaporates very quickly and what it does is magentize metal particles together. This will cause rotors to squeek from time to time.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: striktlyaccord on April 28, 2010, 01:18:05 AM
Quote from: "MyNameIsThien"
You are suppose to use hot soapy water to clean rotors. You can use brake cleaner on new rotors to get the oil film off. Afterwards, you are suppose to use hot soapy water. Brake cleaner evaporates very quickly and what it does is magentize metal particles together. This will cause rotors to squeek from time to time.

Interesting.  My rotors have squeaked well before ever using brake cleaner on them, however.  I guess I did this partially correct though, because I used soapy water on them... the water just wasn't hot lol.


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: AV6NHBP6SPD on April 28, 2010, 11:55:45 PM
did brake pad check before it went for inspection. put that spray on disk quiet stuff on, so far after week no squeaking. shims deff help. my friend put some kinda grease on rear pads and they didnt sweack, i think great works better then spray on stuff


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: striktlyaccord on April 29, 2010, 01:04:33 AM
Quote from: "AV6NHBP6SPD"
did brake pad check before it went for inspection. put that spray on disk quiet stuff on, so far after week no squeaking. shims deff help. my friend put some kinda grease on rear pads and they didnt sweack, i think great works better then spray on stuff

Do you spray the disc quiet stuff right on the rotors?


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: AV6NHBP6SPD on April 29, 2010, 09:24:50 AM
no, you should never spray those
i sprayed it on back of pad where it contacts caliper and calipers themself where it contacts the pad, i did spray under shims as well


Title: Re: Brake squeal solution help
Post by: striktlyaccord on April 30, 2010, 02:43:00 AM
Quote from: "AV6NHBP6SPD"
no, you should never spray those

That's what I thought... just wanted to make sure.


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