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Title: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 14, 2009, 08:24:38 PM
Took a gamble and once again came out triumphant. Behold, the lastest most daring hellaflush setup on a CM8!!!

Wheels: MB Wheels "Battle"
Front: 18x9.5" +23mm Rear: 18x9.5" +15mm


Concativity Reference
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742291.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742292.jpg)

Hellastretch
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742293.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742289.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742290.jpg)

Hawk is up in the air for the "experiment"
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742288.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742294.jpg)

Painted Hubs since wheels have vent holes
Front
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742298.jpg)
Rear
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742299.jpg)

Aluminum Hubcentric Rings FTW
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742295.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742296.jpg)
Front
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742303.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742305.jpg)
Rear
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742306.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742308.jpg)

Some captain and sierra mist in case I came out dissapointed...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742300.jpg)

Ready to put Blackhawk Down
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742309.jpg)

Victory!!!

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742338.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742339.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742341.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742346.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742347.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742348.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742350.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742351.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742357.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742358.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742359.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742360.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742361.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742362.jpg)

UPDATE 10/18/09: This new setup has allowed me to go a full inch lower than I was on the 265s (Believe it or not). Lowered the Hawk a full 1/3" more today and I like this look the most. Better pics coming soon. Enjoy!

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742405.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742406.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742407.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742408.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742413.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742417.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742423.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742424.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742427-1.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742429.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742430.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742431.jpg)


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: Mike on October 14, 2009, 08:29:47 PM
Looks very unique. Just watch out for curbs there is 0 protection from those little fuckers!


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: CYANiDE on October 14, 2009, 08:31:02 PM
That's fking sexy. Props my man.

What deflector is that? Looks very low profile..is that OEM?


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: JC04accord on October 14, 2009, 08:40:38 PM
Wheels are nice! The stretched tire look doesn't do it for me.  Wayyy to small a tire.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: wtcii on October 14, 2009, 08:43:08 PM
I like the wheels a lot. Not a fan at all of the stretched tire though, but to each his own. What are the rings for?


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: Blackhawk on October 14, 2009, 08:53:39 PM
Thanks guys. I was never a fan of stretched tire but was a fan of concaveness. Gotta take some bad with the good I guess. The hubcentric rings are so that the car's wheels ride on the hub, not on the lug nuts. Hope that makes sense.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: Accord Euro-R on October 14, 2009, 09:14:36 PM
Fucking HAWT dude!  Def liking that (and missing my FL peeps).  Crazy ass wideness on the rims but def looking good on the hawk!


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: timot_one on October 14, 2009, 10:04:29 PM
I prefer the hellaflush look on euros more.  I'm not crazy about it on imports.  It's a good look, just not on the hawk.  Sorry JT, not my cup of tea.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: alpha on October 14, 2009, 10:26:41 PM
I love it!  Definitely different since its being done on an Accord!  Now you have to get yourself hellaflush approved :-)


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: skizot on October 14, 2009, 10:30:20 PM
Sorry, I gotta agree with Tim on this one. I do not like the look of wheels where the rim sticks out beyond the safety of what it should be. Stretched tires are one thing, but I don't think this look suits our cars wheel. The great thing is, who really gives a shit what I think, if you are happy and like it, then it really does not matter much what I think.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: dizzle on October 14, 2009, 11:27:29 PM
its a bit hard to pull off the tire stretch look, but i do like the way the rims concave like that.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: toinkee69 on October 15, 2009, 12:19:20 AM
me likey a lot!


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: slipkord on October 15, 2009, 08:12:59 AM
Quote from: "timot_one"
I prefer the hellaflush look on euros more.  I'm not crazy about it on imports.  It's a good look, just not on the hawk.  Sorry JT, not my cup of tea.

+1 esp on a Mk2 GTI  :wink:


Looks good though JT, can't wait to see some daytime pics of it even lower


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: NWINNIE34 on October 15, 2009, 08:34:04 AM
looking good man.... the concave rims are badass.... never been a fan of tire stretching tho be careful with those bad boys !


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: CrackerTeg on October 15, 2009, 08:38:05 AM
Quote from: "skizot"
Sorry, I gotta agree with Tim on this one. I do not like the look of wheels where the rim sticks out beyond the safety of what it should be. Stretched tires are one thing, but I don't think this look suits our cars wheel. The great thing is, who really gives a shit what I think, if you are happy and like it, then it really does not matter much what I think.

+1. I couldn't have said it better myself. Now, If you went uberwide on the tires as opposed to stretched then it'd be badass.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: k24low20z on October 15, 2009, 08:48:39 AM
wheel hore!!!


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: Blackhawk on October 15, 2009, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: "k24low20z"
wheel hore!!!


I'll believe you when you spell it right!  :lol:

I'll be doing some experiments fitting a 235, 245, and maybe even a 255 tire with this setup, but it's gonna be a tight fit given that my wheels have such agressive offsets. Again, sometimes you gotta take a little bit of bad with the good. I wanted concave wheels, and I own an Accord, not a Porsche Carerra or BMW M3. I had to compromise to get this look and I am happy I pulled it off. Will keep yall posted on how other tire sizes fit. For now I am just in love with the wheels. Thanks to all who complimented.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: v6sicksspeed on October 15, 2009, 09:51:44 AM
just neva. eva. parallel park your car!


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: k24low20z on October 15, 2009, 11:26:19 AM
oops..................o_0

Wheel WhorE


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: Paulius005 on October 15, 2009, 11:29:13 AM
Quote from: "v6sicksspeed"
just neva. eva. parallel park your car!

+1

I love the look of the wheels; I think they look absolutely amazing, but I am not a fan of the stretched tires.

Nicely done!


Title: Re: **Royal Flush**
Post by: Abailey4 on October 15, 2009, 11:44:44 AM
Yeah with some wider tires I'd like it a lil better. This is the first wheel set up of your JT that I'm not really feelin. To me the tires look flush but the wheel sticks out past the car a tad. I like the concaveness and the wheel but the sticking out past the car and stretched tire thing I could do without. I'm sure the V6p fan club will approve though. LOL!


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 15, 2009, 01:43:45 PM
Bump for new pics!  :mrgreen:


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Abailey4 on October 15, 2009, 02:03:47 PM
Just saw one shot in the coupe pic thread on V6p that made me change my mind. I would always have to see the car at that angle though! LOL!


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: jdmaccord on October 15, 2009, 03:02:54 PM
with the offset, you must be rubbin your tires on the fenderwalls right?


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: CrackerTeg on October 15, 2009, 03:18:40 PM
After looking at the pics again I can safely say that they are not flush. They are poking. I'm a fan of the wheels concaveness (if that's even a word) but not the poke or stretched tire. The old wheels were better. Maybe a fender pull with nice wide tires will complete the look, but as of now, not feelin' it bro.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Knocturnal84 on October 15, 2009, 04:06:37 PM
HEYYYYY JT

1. Love the wheels. I am afraid of you scraping them on a curb.

2. The car looks real sexy right now like your ready to go drifting.

3. The color match is perfect to me. Black and Bronze

4. Your are a wheel whore and i think you need help with that addiction


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 15, 2009, 04:35:23 PM
Thanks for all the props! I am working on new experiments to run wider tires. As for now I am pretty content. Z, I didn't post the new pictures to get you to change your opinion, so stop arguing with yourself! :lol:.

I guess the term "hellaflush" is used as a reference and not as an exact detailed description of a wheel's flushness with the side of the car. I have seen some people poking up to 4" inches of negative offset and running 205 tires saying they are flush. I'm just happy to be the first CM8 to get away with these offsets and not even pulling or ghetto-shitting my fenders. Either way, the rear has more rolling to go so we may see a 235/40 or 245/35 setup soon ;).


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Paulius005 on October 15, 2009, 05:27:30 PM
I love the concavity, and I think the new side shots are amazing, but I don't like the fact that the wheels stick out that much past the fenders either.

I think those wheels are sexy, but they gotta stop poking out.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 15, 2009, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: "Paulius005"
I love the concavity, and I think the new side shots are amazing, but I don't like the fact that the wheels stick out that much past the fenders either.

I think those wheels are sexy, but they gotta stop poking out.

Find a setup that does that with concativity on an Accord, and I will buy you a set!  :P


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: CrackerTeg on October 15, 2009, 06:46:35 PM
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Z, I didn't post the new pictures to get you to change your opinion, so stop arguing with yourself! :lol:.


(http://files.myopera.com/AMGala/albums/200326/Baby%20O%20Rly.gif)


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Rich01 on October 15, 2009, 08:08:34 PM
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
After looking at the pics again I can safely say that they are not flush. They are poking. I'm a fan of the wheels concaveness (if that's even a word) but not the poke or stretched tire. The old wheels were better. Maybe a fender pull with nice wide tires will complete the look, but as of now, not feelin' it bro.
+1

Love the rims but, I think the setup, with a little more work, has the potential to be great. You definitely need wider tires and I would pull out those fenders (if possible, all 4) to accommodate them even if you have to raise the Hawk a little to eliminate rubbing. Just don't pull it too much so that it starts looking like a wide body kit; this does not work on our cars. Props for attempting something unique and thats why we all do what we do as car guys.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 15, 2009, 08:24:22 PM
Quote from: "Rich01"
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
After looking at the pics again I can safely say that they are not flush. They are poking. I'm a fan of the wheels concaveness (if that's even a word) but not the poke or stretched tire. The old wheels were better. Maybe a fender pull with nice wide tires will complete the look, but as of now, not feelin' it bro.
+1

Love the rims but, I think the setup, with a little more work, has the potential to be great. You definitely need wider tires and I would pull out those fenders (if possible, all 4) to accommodate them even if you have to raise the Hawk a little to eliminate rubbing. Just don't pull it too much so that it starts looking like a wide body kit; this does not work on our cars. Props for attempting something unique and thats why we all do what we do as car guys.

Is this what you have done to yours? Let's see it I wanna learn from the pros.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: CrackerTeg on October 15, 2009, 08:30:43 PM
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Quote from: "Rich01"
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
After looking at the pics again I can safely say that they are not flush. They are poking. I'm a fan of the wheels concaveness (if that's even a word) but not the poke or stretched tire. The old wheels were better. Maybe a fender pull with nice wide tires will complete the look, but as of now, not feelin' it bro.
+1

Love the rims but, I think the setup, with a little more work, has the potential to be great. You definitely need wider tires and I would pull out those fenders (if possible, all 4) to accommodate them even if you have to raise the Hawk a little to eliminate rubbing. Just don't pull it too much so that it starts looking like a wide body kit; this does not work on our cars. Props for attempting something unique and thats why we all do what we do as car guys.

Is this what you have done to yours? Let's see it I wanna learn from the pros.

Getting defensive JT?


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Paulius005 on October 15, 2009, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Quote from: "Paulius005"
I love the concavity, and I think the new side shots are amazing, but I don't like the fact that the wheels stick out that much past the fenders either.

I think those wheels are sexy, but they gotta stop poking out.


Find a setup that does that with concativity on an Accord, and I will buy you a set!  :P  .

 http://www.gmpperformance.com/index.cfm ... PID=214138 (http://www.gmpperformance.com/index.cfm?PG=detail_wheel&PID=214138)
(http://www.gmpperformance.com/CFJFiles/GMP/17061_b.jpg)


http://www.nengun.com/5zigen/fn01r-c-hot-version (http://www.nengun.com/5zigen/fn01r-c-hot-version)
(http://image.nengun.com/catalogue/primary/nengun-1588-02-5zigen-fn01r-c.jpg)

http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/y ... van_rs.htm (http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/yokohama/advan_rs.htm)
(http://www.gruppe-s.com/Ben/Wheels/advan_rs_silver.jpg)


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 15, 2009, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Is this what you have done to yours? Let's see it I wanna learn from the pros.


Getting defensive JT?


Is your name Paulius?  :P  .

 http://www.gmpperformance.com/index.cfm ... PID=214138 (http://www.gmpperformance.com/index.cfm?PG=detail_wheel&PID=214138)
(http://www.gmpperformance.com/CFJFiles/GMP/17061_b.jpg)


http://www.nengun.com/5zigen/fn01r-c-hot-version (http://www.nengun.com/5zigen/fn01r-c-hot-version)
(http://image.nengun.com/catalogue/primary/nengun-1588-02-5zigen-fn01r-c.jpg)

http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/y ... van_rs.htm (http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/yokohama/advan_rs.htm)
(http://www.gruppe-s.com/Ben/Wheels/advan_rs_silver.jpg)[/quote]


Sexy wheels! However, specs or it'll never happen LOL


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Paulius005 on October 15, 2009, 09:38:22 PM
Specs are in the links that I posted, the ones above the pictures.

Quote
CrackerTeg wrote:
Blackhawk wrote:
Is this what you have done to yours? Let's see it I wanna learn from the pros.


Getting defensive JT?


Is your name Paulius?  


I'm confused by that since I didn't say anything about pulling fenders, I just complimented and stated my opinion (http://www.v6performance.net/forums/images/smilies/hide2.gif).


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: CrackerTeg on October 15, 2009, 10:18:29 PM
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Is this what you have done to yours? Let's see it I wanna learn from the pros.


Getting defensive JT?


Is your name Paulius?  :P


Nope. And it was Rich you were hitting. Ha! Here's egg on yo face!
(http://www.nomad4ever.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/egg_on_the_face.jpg)


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: alpha on October 16, 2009, 01:06:19 AM
Some negative camber, and maybe a slight fender pull, you should be able to run 255s all around..


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Mike on October 16, 2009, 07:47:19 AM
Let's not be so negitive kids at the end of the day JT is trying something new on his accord, and that's a good thing. Agree with the set up or not it's innovation. Obviously opinions are welcomed but remember they are opinions! Nice work JT I can't wait to see wider tires on this set up, and I think your plans are good. If you roll the fenders just enough to get a bit of a tuck this will be amazing.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 16, 2009, 08:18:16 AM
Eggs in the morning... Mmmmm  Sunny side up please! lol  I was talking to Paulius at the time and didn't know who you were referring to, Z. No biggie... Yeah Mike thanks for reiterating my point. I am trying to go 255/35 all around which believe it or not is still a stretch on a 9.5, but just might be the perfect size. I'll just have to camber the rear like Cham said. My fronts look like they can take a 285/45/18 because the fenders have so much room. I love our CM8 "manta ray" style fenders (Kinda S2K Style).


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on October 16, 2009, 09:28:10 AM
Looking good JT


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Paulius005 on October 16, 2009, 09:44:43 AM
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Eggs in the morning... Mmmmm  Sunny side up please! lol  I was talking to Paulius at the time and didn't know who you were referring to, Z. No biggie... Yeah Mike thanks for reiterating my point. I am trying to go 255/35 all around which believe it or not is still a stretch on a 9.5, but just might be the perfect size. I'll just have to camber the rear like Cham said. My fronts look like they can take a 285/45/18 because the fenders have so much room. I love our CM8 "manta ray" style fenders (Kinda S2K Style).

I was just trying to give you a hard time cuz you said your going to buy me a set, I like the setup :D.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 16, 2009, 10:03:02 AM
Quote from: "Paulius005"
I was just trying to give you a hard time cuz you said your going to buy me a set, I like the setup :D.

Thanks man, I am feeling real confident about 255/35 or 255/30, it's just gonna take a lot of precision measuring and some blood sweat & tears. Project in the works for sure.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 16, 2009, 10:11:49 AM
Here are some Front And Rear Reference shots for those of you wanting exact view of "poke":

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742373.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742372.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742371.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742374.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742375.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742376.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742380.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742379.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742378.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742381.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742382.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742383.jpg)


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Rich01 on October 16, 2009, 12:42:10 PM
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Quote from: "Rich01"
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
After looking at the pics again I can safely say that they are not flush. They are poking. I'm a fan of the wheels concaveness (if that's even a word) but not the poke or stretched tire. The old wheels were better. Maybe a fender pull with nice wide tires will complete the look, but as of now, not feelin' it bro.
+1

Love the rims but, I think the setup, with a little more work, has the potential to be great. You definitely need wider tires and I would pull out those fenders (if possible, all 4) to accommodate them even if you have to raise the Hawk a little to eliminate rubbing. Just don't pull it too much so that it starts looking like a wide body kit; this does not work on our cars. Props for attempting something unique and thats why we all do what we do as car guys.

Is this what you have done to yours? Let's see it I wanna learn from the pros.

Getting defensive JT?
It seems like it, right Z :smile:

JT, I'm by no means a pro man. I just see a good mod that has the potential to be great and offered my 2cents on how I think you could achieve this. You posted these pics to get people's feed back right like I said "Props for attempting something unique and thats why we all do what we do as car guys" GL with getting those wider tires on there.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: timot_one on October 16, 2009, 12:43:43 PM
Holy negative camber.  I say wider tires and raise it up a bit.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Jdm_accord06 on October 18, 2009, 06:40:54 PM
different tastes from different forums. Its mostly a socal trend to "flush" or "poke" it looks perfect the way it is. stay low and wide JT :).


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: rip_cord on October 18, 2009, 10:59:09 PM
This poor redneck is very amused.  "CATFISH IS AMUSED.  NOM NOM NOM" ????

I loved the uberwides, but the current setup looks most daring.  Way to step up.

How do you drive with those???  Slow and low?
Did you have to use a CHEETAH to get them mounted?


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** Updated Pics 10/15/09!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 18, 2009, 11:16:36 PM
Quote from: "Jdm_accord06"
different tastes from different forums. Its mostly a socal trend to "flush" or "poke" it looks perfect the way it is. stay low and wide JT :).


Yeah I heard one Socal guy told me he was surprised I even attempted this since East Coast guys normally like the "hellasunk" look which is "hellaweak offsets" (as they put it). But yeah. Thanks for your input, Jdm_accord06.

Quote from: "rip_cord"
This poor redneck is very amused.  "CATFISH IS AMUSED.  NOM NOM NOM" ????

I loved the uberwides, but the current setup looks most daring.  Way to step up.

How do you drive with those???  Slow and low?
Did you have to use a CHEETAH to get them mounted?


Cheetah was used lol. And as far as driving. Like any other day. These Falkens were made for this lol.

This new setup has allowed me to go a full inch lower than I was on the 265s (Believe it or not). Lowered the Hawk a full 1/3" more today and I like this look the most. Better pics coming soon. Enjoy!

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Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Knocturnal84 on October 19, 2009, 11:53:04 AM
ok jt now your even lower...When i got my coilovers i was lowerd jsut like that and i scraped the bottow everytime i went over a bump. How are you doin in underbody clearance.

Thats what i am worried about


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: slipkord on October 19, 2009, 12:06:02 PM
There is no way to ride that low esp in a daily driven ride.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 19, 2009, 01:05:11 PM
Quote from: "slipkord"
There is no way to ride that low esp in a daily driven ride.

Maybe in Mobile  :twisted:


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 19, 2009, 01:09:34 PM
Quote from: "Knocturnal84"
ok jt now your even lower...When i got my coilovers i was lowerd jsut like that and i scraped the bottow everytime i went over a bump. How are you doin in underbody clearance.

Thats what i am worried about

So far so good. No ridiculously huge bumps or potholes here in Cape Coral (Knock on wood).  :mrgreen:


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: slipkord on October 19, 2009, 01:56:06 PM
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Quote from: "slipkord"
There is no way to ride that low esp in a daily driven ride.

Maybe in Mobile  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: v6sicksspeed on October 19, 2009, 02:51:23 PM
wow, your roads must be smooth as a roller skating rink to drive around like that.  those rims would be toast within 30 minutes around where i live.  props, but... damn.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Mike on October 19, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
You couldn't make it into my neighborhood in July dropped that far lol. Looks good I still can't wait to see wider tires.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 19, 2009, 03:42:44 PM
Quote from: "lavalleemike"
You couldn't make it into my neighborhood in July dropped that far lol. Looks good I still can't wait to see wider tires.

Still can't wait to see someone beat my offset  :P.

Yeah can't complain, these roads are pretty damn spanky.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: DV8mAn on October 19, 2009, 03:46:07 PM
Spanky?  where are the rest of the little rascals..  lol


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: timot_one on October 19, 2009, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Still can't wait to see someone beat my offset  :P.

It doesn't count if they don't fit.  Any jackass can run a set of wheels with a lower offset.  If they stick out hella far and you're forced to run -5º camber to tuck your wheels, yet you still rub like a fat girl's thighs, it doesn't count.  I'm not ragging on you personally JT (because I know you have guns), I'm just ragging on the style because it fools people into thinking they've achieved something special that nobody else could.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 19, 2009, 05:10:32 PM
Quote from: "timot_one"
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Still can't wait to see someone beat my offset  :P.

It doesn't count if they don't fit.  Any jackass can run a set of wheels with a lower offset.  If they stick out hella far and you're forced to run -5º camber to tuck your wheels, yet you still rub like a fat girl's thighs, it doesn't count.  I'm not ragging on you personally JT (because I know you have guns), I'm just ragging on the style because it fools people into thinking they've achieved something special that nobody else could.

I understand Tim. If there was anyone that would bash the whole "hellaflush" concept before it was me. I was one of the first guys to clear super wide wires without having to do much to the car, and still be pretty flush, and this is something that gave me ammo to question the guys running single digit offsets and tires more cambered out than Marty from Back to the Future. This is just a new innovative style that I've helped a few guys on the East Coast (originally a west coast trend) feel confident about trying, but perhaps more conservatively.

I understand my setup is pretty extreme, but I personally like the way it flows with the car now. It took me a while to get used to since I am accustomed to wheels being completely under the fender, but it's growing on me. Either way just part of innovation. I may go back to something more practical one day, but for now just enjoying this setup and the low cost of tires for a change. (Uberwide tires are almost $200 a pop). Do my views make any sense to anyone here? Thanks for your honest opinions guys, they are always welcomed.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: timot_one on October 19, 2009, 05:57:48 PM
It's your car, so if you're happy with the look, then run with it.  I just can't get over the lip of the wheel sticking out of your fenders and the tires stretched so much that they lip is sitting outside the tire bead.  I prefer having more meat on my wheels.  It just looks unsafe to me.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Jdm_accord06 on October 19, 2009, 07:08:08 PM
it is unsafe tim. But here in socal everyone runs these trendy set-up but so far no has had any problems and the highways/roads are horrid, with potholes and uneven pavement. Im stump as to how anyone drives here even with meaty tires. So the "hellaflush" set up is out of the question haha


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: skizot on October 19, 2009, 11:11:24 PM
I'm gonna jump in and say, it scares the shit out of me that I am driving on the same road as cars that have wheel and tire setups like this. JT is not the only one. I see these cars around me every where. The tire is stressed beyond how they were engineered, the wheels look IMHO ridiculous and one misjudgement of a bump in the road or one tire that does not quite measure up to standards and not only does the owner run the potential to harm themselves, but also innocent bystanders  as well. Style for car shows is one thing, but when the car is driven regularly, I don't give a shit if it is only on weekends, it scares me to think that I could be a victim to this nonsense.

Sorry, but it is how I feel about it. There is a reason a certain size wheel and tire was designed to run on this car and why aftermarket wheels are made specific for certain applications.

Ask anyone from a firestone blow out...

(http://www.consumeraffairs.com/images02/ford_firestone.png)


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 20, 2009, 09:28:36 AM
Quote from: "skizot"
I'm gonna jump in and say, it scares the shit out of me that I am driving on the same road as cars that have wheel and tire setups like this. JT is not the only one. I see these cars around me every where. The tire is stressed beyond how they were engineered, the wheels look IMHO ridiculous and one misjudgement of a bump in the road or one tire that does not quite measure up to standards and not only does the owner run the potential to harm themselves, but also innocent bystanders  as well. Style for car shows is one thing, but when the car is driven regularly, I don't give a shit if it is only on weekends, it scares me to think that I could be a victim to this nonsense.

Sorry, but it is how I feel about it. There is a reason a certain size wheel and tire was designed to run on this car and why aftermarket wheels are made specific for certain applications.

Ask anyone from a firestone blow out...

([url]http://www.consumeraffairs.com/images02/ford_firestone.png[/url])


Are you comparing the Ford "Exploder" controversy to Hellaflush setups, Scott?


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: timot_one on October 20, 2009, 10:22:51 AM
I think he's pointing out the fact that wheels and tires are a vital piece of safety equipment, and when compromised, can cause catastrophic failure resulting in fatal losses.  Basically, your wheel and tire set up is unsafe.  It's not the fact that you're running a low offset, wide wheels, or a large diameter.  The basic issue is that you've mounted a tire on to a wheel that it's not intended for in an unsafe manner.  Opinions on style is one thing, safety is another.  I'm sure if your state had safety inspections, these would fail.  I'm also sure that if you called the tire manufacturer and asked them about your set up, they would tell you that it is unsafe.  This is not a matter of fashion over function, it's more of an issue of fashion over safety.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: clapton924 on October 20, 2009, 11:09:49 AM
I like those rims JT, but as others have noted I think you should move to a bigger width tire and correct your rear camber.  Otherwise I think it looks good.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Blackhawk on October 20, 2009, 04:49:01 PM
Thanks for the compliments and concerns. For safety reasons and based on my own personal decision, I will be putting my uberwides back on and selling these 225 tires until I can come up with a solution for a wider tire that doesn't rub. Really digging these concave wheels but I don't wanna kill or be killed. Will update this thread once I innovate something new again lol.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: timot_one on October 20, 2009, 05:23:08 PM
Smart move.  You should have some custom work done on your wheel wells I like did.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: skizot on October 20, 2009, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Quote from: "skizot"
I'm gonna jump in and say, it scares the shit out of me that I am driving on the same road as cars that have wheel and tire setups like this. JT is not the only one. I see these cars around me every where. The tire is stressed beyond how they were engineered, the wheels look IMHO ridiculous and one misjudgement of a bump in the road or one tire that does not quite measure up to standards and not only does the owner run the potential to harm themselves, but also innocent bystanders  as well. Style for car shows is one thing, but when the car is driven regularly, I don't give a shit if it is only on weekends, it scares me to think that I could be a victim to this nonsense.

Sorry, but it is how I feel about it. There is a reason a certain size wheel and tire was designed to run on this car and why aftermarket wheels are made specific for certain applications.

Ask anyone from a firestone blow out...

([url]http://www.consumeraffairs.com/images02/ford_firestone.png[/url])


Are you comparing the Ford "Exploder" controversy to Hellaflush setups, Scott?



Unfortunately I am doing exactly that. Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. I am just one person with an opinion. I see you decided to look for a new solution, I applaud your decision. Too bad, there are 100's of others out there running the same type of setup.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: Slammedk24 on October 21, 2009, 09:01:03 AM
I like it, and am jealous, I still want the rota D2's like Neal, but only in gold face. Good thing you dont have those skid plates like me. I rip mine off atleast once a week and i'm too stubborn to raise my car up, so I just keep fixing them and it hasnt messed anything up.....yet


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: jdmaccord on October 21, 2009, 11:43:19 AM
love the ride slammed like mine. wise they were 19 and not 18's. I seen alot of 7th gen in Boston with 19-20s, 18 just look to small to me for some reason. But i love thoses rims. i'm looking at a pair of MRR myself for next year.


Title: Re: **Royal Flush** UPDATE 10/18: Lowaaar!!!
Post by: MyNameIsThien on October 21, 2009, 08:47:31 PM
I am going to clear this up with the whole Firestone blow out. It is not Firestone's fault. It was clarified that Ford was at blame for recommending only 26psi of air in a top heavy SUV. The tire themselves have no problems. It is just that low psi on any car will cause a blow out. How many people check their air pressure once a month like they are suppose to? This is why some many Ford Explorer owners had the whole tire blow out. Firestone pretty much had to take the blame because everyone pointed at the tires. Everyone came to the conclusion that Firestone tires are crappy and that all of them will blow out. I work for the company, and I will back it their products. Majority of most blow outs are due to low air pressure or high air pressure in the tire.


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