Title: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: Blackhawk on October 06, 2009, 01:08:05 PM
Please see latest post for the lastest update.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/MBBattle.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/MBBattle.jpg)
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: CrackerTeg on October 06, 2009, 01:14:04 PM
GM yes. A Florida guy saying "hella?" Nope. 
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: NWINNIE34 on October 06, 2009, 01:32:28 PM
i bet in your house you have 2 couches...a tv.....wii.... and probably 28 sets of tires and rims haha
WTF man haha pick one and stay with it !
they look sick....concave rims FTW !
WTF man haha pick one and stay with it !
they look sick....concave rims FTW !
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: slipkord on October 06, 2009, 02:15:17 PM
Everytime I hear the word concave it makes me think of a chick who has no ass, one which pushes back in...errr hmmm yeah, nice wheels JT. Go for it!
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: timot_one on October 06, 2009, 02:30:36 PM
Do it if you want man. Give me a good deal on the wheels you have right now while you're at it.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Icebox on October 06, 2009, 02:47:45 PM
wheel whore
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: alpha on October 06, 2009, 03:01:36 PM
Do it!! but with the XT-7's instead of the Battle..
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Mike on October 06, 2009, 03:04:21 PM
I talked to you earlier JT but, I'll say it here to do it and do it bronze while your at it.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Blackhawk on October 06, 2009, 03:17:26 PM
Quote from: "timot_one"
Do it if you want man. Give me a good deal on the wheels you have right now while you're at it.
YGPM
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Knocturnal84 on October 06, 2009, 03:19:59 PM
againnnnnnnnnnnn More wheels JT
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: driveaccord on October 06, 2009, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: "alpha"
Do it!! but with the XT-7's instead of the Battle..
haha thats what i just told him to do on v6p...works FTW!Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: toinkee69 on October 06, 2009, 09:15:15 PM
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Quote from: "timot_one"
Do it if you want man. Give me a good deal on the wheels you have right now while you're at it.
YGPM
SOLD! buy these already and post pic.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Paulius005 on October 07, 2009, 10:48:54 PM
They look great, I think they'd go well with your car.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Blackhawk on October 14, 2009, 02:15:07 PM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742286.jpg)
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: slipkord on October 14, 2009, 02:20:50 PM
You big fawking tease! Put them on already!
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Blackhawk on October 14, 2009, 02:27:01 PM
They are getting mounted and balanced as we speak. They go on the car tonight.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Paulius005 on October 14, 2009, 06:44:09 PM
Those things are wide as fuck! Are you pulling your fenders more?
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: wtcii on October 14, 2009, 08:07:39 PM
The weapons are 265's, so I doubt any modification will be needed.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Blackhawk on October 22, 2009, 02:53:31 PM
Didn't want to continue the unsafe driving on 225 tires and 9.5" rims, so decided on new setup with same wheels. Gonna move the +23's to the rear with 255/35/18's, and add about a degree of camber so they clear no problem. For the front I am getting 18x8 +30 and keeping the 225/40/18s on them.
So for all you hellaflush junkies, lookout for 2EA 18x9.5 +15 MB Battles in Bronze in the classifieds for hellacheap soon.
Taking thoughts and opinions on my new choice for setup...
Thanks,
-JT
So for all you hellaflush junkies, lookout for 2EA 18x9.5 +15 MB Battles in Bronze in the classifieds for hellacheap soon.
Taking thoughts and opinions on my new choice for setup...
Thanks,
-JT
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: timot_one on October 22, 2009, 03:34:27 PM
Sounds a bit safer to me.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Blackhawk on October 22, 2009, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: "timot_one"
Sounds a bit safer to me.
Discount Tire Direct is taking the 2 wheels back without a restocking charge. This made me
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: timot_one on October 22, 2009, 04:35:51 PM
That's pretty badass. I need new tires for my TL's. I've gotta put those motherfuckers on my car soon since the winter is coming. Hopefully the new set up will be a bit safer. What are the full specs of the new wheel and tire set up?
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Blackhawk on October 22, 2009, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: "timot_one"
That's pretty badass. I need new tires for my TL's. I've gotta put those motherfuckers on my car soon since the winter is coming. Hopefully the new set up will be a bit safer. What are the full specs of the new wheel and tire set up?
You're gonna go with regular all-seasons or winter, Tim?
My new specs:
Front: 225/40/18 Falken FK452 on MB Battle (Bronze) 18x8 +30mm
Rear: 255/35/18 Falken FK452 on MB Battle (Bronze) 18x9.5 +23mm
I expect this to be safer since the tires sit on the rims more adequately.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: timot_one on October 22, 2009, 04:59:18 PM
I'm going to be running all seasons. I wouldn't mind picking up a set of winter tires though. I think I'd run 215/50/17's on the TL's if I bought a set. I just can't justify the expense.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Blackhawk on October 22, 2009, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: "timot_one"
I'm going to be running all seasons. I wouldn't mind picking up a set of winter tires though. I think I'd run 215/50/17's on the TL's if I bought a set. I just can't justify the expense.
215/50/17's are the proper size for winter setups since they are narrower, no?
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: timot_one on October 22, 2009, 05:04:48 PM
Yeah, it's best to go with a narrower tire on snow so you have less of a contact patch.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Blackhawk on October 23, 2009, 10:56:47 AM
Quote from: "timot_one"
Yeah, it's best to go with a narrower tire on snow so you have less of a contact patch.
Same thing I heard. Also Tim, the setup I am going with fill be financially sound, as tire costs will be cheaper than uberwides.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Paulius005 on October 26, 2009, 02:19:38 PM
Quick question, why is when people get a staggered set of rims on a front wheels drive car, the put the wider ones in the back, never made any sense to me. Is it just for looks? Wider wheels on the front wheels would make more sense, no?
OT- Your new setup sounds nice! GL and post up more god damn pics .
OT- Your new setup sounds nice! GL and post up more god damn pics
.Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: CrackerTeg on October 26, 2009, 05:26:33 PM
Quote from: "Paulius005"
Quick question, why is when people get a staggered set of rims on a front wheels drive car, the put the wider ones in the back, never made any sense to me. Is it just for looks? Wider wheels on the front wheels would make more sense, no?
OT- Your new setup sounds nice! GL and post up more god damn pics .
OT- Your new setup sounds nice! GL and post up more god damn pics
.Its definitely for looks. Though, now that I think about it, if you look at it from a road course sort of view, if you have wider tires in the rear on a car that has been setup suspension wise with more oversteer it'll actually help with giving a more neutral feel. With drag however, you want the wider tires in front for traction where the power is put down.
Title: Re: Hellaflush Hawk? - Need Opinions
Post by: Blackhawk on October 28, 2009, 10:54:53 AM
Z said it correctly. Straight line racing favors a wide tire where the torque wheels are at. It's not suitable for road course since it will cause oversteer.
Title: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: Blackhawk on November 04, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
Well, Stage 1 is underway. Got the 255/35/18 Falken FK452s mounted on the 18x9.5 +23mm Battles. These are to go on the rear of the Blackhawk. Tonight will determine if they will fit right away, or if I will need more camber. Here are some pics of how they sit on the rims:
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/IMG00235.jpg)
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Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: Mike on November 04, 2009, 01:53:43 PM
This looks a safer than the previous set up!
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: Blackhawk on November 04, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
The front will be 18x8" +30 with 225/40/18 but I am not worried about fitment on those because calculations put it right on the money. It's the rear that's gonna be a close ass call!
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: timot_one on November 04, 2009, 02:31:44 PM
They look better now. Although, I'm not exactly crazy about a staggered set up on a FWD car.
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: DV8mAn on November 04, 2009, 04:33:55 PM
Nice JT. Can I have my TL rims back now?
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: Blackhawk on November 04, 2009, 04:45:45 PM
Quote from: "DV8mAn"
Nice JT. Can I have my TL rims back now?
Gotta pay up. Although you'll probably be in the dog house for a while.
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: alpha on November 04, 2009, 10:17:13 PM
Sweet! Can't wait to see pics! :-)
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: DV8mAn on November 05, 2009, 09:30:39 AM
Quote from: "Blackhawk"
Quote from: "DV8mAn"
Nice JT. Can I have my TL rims back now?
Gotta pay up. Although you'll probably be in the dog house for a while.
Actually I will be out of the house completely. HoJo's FTW!
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: Rich01 on November 05, 2009, 11:35:07 PM
Definitely looks better JT, I'm confident you can make the rear fit
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: Blackhawk on November 06, 2009, 12:27:48 PM
Well, I am going back to 225s all around in a staggered rim setup, this time using the Falken RT-615 which is the widest 225 they make. Nobody has ever worked with this tire, so I hope I am straight:
(http://www.good-win-racing.com/miata/images/items/falken.jpg)
What do you guys think? The work I had to do to get the 255s to fit in the back would of deformed my rear quarter panels and I didn't feel like ghetto-shitting my fenders. There are people that practice drifting with tires more stretched than these, so I know I'll be fine.
UPDATE: The 18x8" +30 Battles are in. Still concaved just not as agressive as the 9.5"s
Check em out!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742494.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742495.jpg)
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(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742497.jpg)
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(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742500.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742501.jpg)
(http://www.good-win-racing.com/miata/images/items/falken.jpg)
What do you guys think? The work I had to do to get the 255s to fit in the back would of deformed my rear quarter panels and I didn't feel like ghetto-shitting my fenders. There are people that practice drifting with tires more stretched than these, so I know I'll be fine.
UPDATE: The 18x8" +30 Battles are in. Still concaved just not as agressive as the 9.5"s
Check em out!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742494.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742495.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742496.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742497.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742498.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742499.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742500.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742501.jpg)
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: Mike on November 06, 2009, 03:38:29 PM
The RT-615 has an interesting tread pattern to say the least. I have no expierence with them but, good luck man.
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: Blackhawk on November 06, 2009, 03:52:11 PM
Yeah it's Falken's version of a "race" or "drag" radial. I'm pretty sure you guys have seen BFG and Nitto's versions. Sticky as hell tire.
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: DV8mAn on November 08, 2009, 12:49:14 PM
a nice 10,000 mile tire. lol. C and D did a performance tire comparo a couple months back and Falken were included.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/com ... 615_page_5 (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparisons/09q2/tire_test_nine_affordable_summer_tires_take_on_the_michelin_ps2-comparison_tests/falken_azenis_rt-615_page_5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/com ... 615_page_5 (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparisons/09q2/tire_test_nine_affordable_summer_tires_take_on_the_michelin_ps2-comparison_tests/falken_azenis_rt-615_page_5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: MyNameIsThien on November 08, 2009, 01:25:50 PM
Yeah, Those Azenis will not last you long at all. They make those for really competition use. IE: Auto X and Drift. For a daily driven car, its not worth the money. I don't really like Falkens period but to each his own. I do not condone on the tire stretch look as you disturbing the tire structure. I prefer safety over looks, and if you rather look cool then thats all you.
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: alpha on November 08, 2009, 11:41:42 PM
I had the RT-615 on my WRX. It was an ok tire. It was really sticky when it warmed up, but they absolutely suck when they are cold, and they get greasy when really hot. They would get greasy towards the fourth or fifth auto-x run for me. And got greasy towards minute 18 at the track.
If you are looking for a really good sticky summer tire, I would recommend the Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec. They are highly regarded as better than the Azenis RT-615. I don't have any personal experience with them but people that have them love them. They are very popular in the auto-x crowd.
If you are looking for a really good sticky summer tire, I would recommend the Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec. They are highly regarded as better than the Azenis RT-615. I don't have any personal experience with them but people that have them love them. They are very popular in the auto-x crowd.
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1
Post by: Blackhawk on November 12, 2009, 01:24:41 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys. Tires mounted for these front rims today. I was amazed at how wide this 225/40 tire is. The tread surface protrudes from the side of the rim lip on the 8"s. They should stretch perfectly on the 9.5"s. As for the choice of tire, I got a $45 discount through Bing on eBay, then an $80 rebate from Falken on these till Novemeber. Got $580 tires for around $434 shipped. Once I wear them out I will switch to the FK452. More "streetier" and Falken's sportiest street tire.
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Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1: Tire WIN
Post by: Asim on November 14, 2009, 10:53:01 PM
my cousin has those tires for auto-x in his protege
crazy sticky
crazy sticky
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1: Tire WIN
Post by: Blackhawk on November 16, 2009, 09:27:44 AM
Here we go, new setup: F18x8" +30 225/40/18, R18x9.5" +23 225/40/18
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL742812.jpg)
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Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 1: Tire WIN
Post by: Asim on November 16, 2009, 10:07:34 AM
you have to change your name to flushhawk now
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: jobata23 on November 16, 2009, 02:58:19 PM
JT did you put these on yet?
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: Blackhawk on November 16, 2009, 03:00:05 PM
Quote from: "Asim"
you have to change your name to flushhawk now
LOLQuote from: "jobata23"
JT did you put these on yet?
Yeah Mark, those pics above are from Saturday Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: jobata23 on November 16, 2009, 03:16:51 PM
haha... my bad, i usually look at the first page and also my comp is acting up weird, it scrolls down automatically without me seeing the whole post. anyways i think it looks better like that, and that sits hellaflush not sticking out.
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: b_beau_09 on November 16, 2009, 03:53:03 PM
JT, looks soo much better. those rims are beautiful. congrats on hellaflush status!
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: slipkord on November 16, 2009, 03:56:22 PM
Pics of wheels on car or COD pwnage will being momentarly
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: Rich01 on November 16, 2009, 11:02:25 PM
I think you nailed it this time JT. The Hawk is back and ready for war
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: Paulius005 on November 17, 2009, 07:57:52 PM
Nice JT! I gotta say that that's perfect.
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: CrackerTeg on November 17, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
Now that looks damn good JT. I approve of the flushness and appropriately sized tires. No poke FTMFW homey!
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: Blackhawk on November 18, 2009, 12:06:35 PM
Thanks, Z. When you see the classifieds you will see why I hate my life so much.
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: driveaccord on November 19, 2009, 08:41:06 PM
much much better JT..like the new look buddy
Title: Re: Project "Uberflush" Stage 3: Pic Update: 11/15/09
Post by: alpha on November 20, 2009, 07:54:39 PM
The setup could be considered safe now, but I still like it. Offsets are still pretty hot!
Now get your pics on here (http://fatlace.com/hellaflush).
Now get your pics on here (http://fatlace.com/hellaflush).