Title: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on September 26, 2009, 08:28:33 AM Here's the story about how Sears Auto Center in Marlborough, MA damaged my wheels when I bought new tires a few weeks ago. First off, I must say that this has been the worst experience ever. It all started back on Saturday, September 4th when I needed to replace my tires because of camber wear. I went to Sears Auto Center in Salem, NH and asked for a set of 245/40/18 BF Goodrich g-Force Sport summer tires. They said they only had 3 tires in stock, so I waited around for an hour and a half while they tried to locate a 4th tire from another store that they could put on my car. The entire time, all of the Sears technicians were saying they could not even get my car on a lift. The sales lady ignored them. I was sick of waiting for her and eventually she said she couldn't find a 4th tire, so I told them to only put on 2 rear tires and I would order the missing pair from another Sears closer to where I live. After convincing the technicians that my car could be raised up to get my wheels off, and showing them how to, the work started. Obviously, they were just too lazy to actually do the work to lift my car to get the wheels off. I took my spanner wrenches and raised the rear of my car so when they set it back down, I wouldn't have any clearance issues with the wider tires. The tech working on my car didn't have a problem with that, but some other guy did. I get out of there and discover that they put on all season tires, not summer tires. Fed up, I just left and called another Sears that is closer to my place and told them to order 4 of the summer tires that I wanted.
I then get a call that my new tires are at the Sears that is closer to my home, so I let them know that I will be coming in on the weekend to have them put on. I let them know that I want to return the other tires that were put on my car because they were not what I asked for. They tell me that they can't take returns from another store and that I would have to talk to a manager at the Sears Auto Center in New Hampshire. Another lie that they told me because they were too lazy to do the work and didn't want to have the return affect their store's sales figures. I know it's a lie, because they later took the tires back and refunded me after a heated conversation with the manager. I tell them to put the tires in my car when I pick it up so I can deal with the other store. Then I go to pay with my mother's Sears card since this was a belated birthday present and early Christmas present. Since she lives 700 miles away, I only have the card number and expiration date. The week before, I used it to pay for the other tires at the first Sears Auto Center and I used it to put a deposit down at this Sears Auto Center to order the tires. The sales guy says I can pay this way, so he gets the manager. I state my case to the manager, but logic doesn't work with him so I start to lay into him and he finally calls the CC company to find out that I had been authorized to use the card. I leave the shop, drive 5 miles to my friend's house to drop off my car. He was going to be watching it for the week while I was out of town. My car remained parked and alarmed while it was at his house for the entire time. Fast forward one week. I arrive back from vacation and pick up my car around 9:00 PM on Sunday, September 20th, fill up the tank, and drive home. The next day, I drive to work and work all day, then after work I do a quick once around my car to inspect it since this is the first time I have been able to see it in the daylight. I walk around my car and get to the rear passenger's side wheel and notice a 5"x1/4" area on the inner lip of my wheel where the paint was scraped off. I start looking at my other wheels closer and notice more damage to the lip from the tire mounting machine. They didn't use the touch free tire mounting machine and scratched the lip on all 4 of my wheels. Other than a tiny chip in the paint of one wheel and the normal damage that can occur around the lug area from using an impact gun, my wheels were in perfect condition. I called the manager at the Sears Auto Center immediately to tell him about the damage and he told me to come in so he can check it out. I show up around 7:00 PM on Monday, September 21st and it's the same dim witted manager that I had to lay into about the credit card. He asks me to pull my car into the shop, so I pull in and show him the damage. I explain to him that the only acceptable solution is that they pay for 100% of the repairs for my wheels. The manager starts going on the defensive saying that they didn't damage my wheels and that they aren't responsible. I explained again that my wheels were in perfect condition before my car came in and now they were magically ruined after getting tires. We go back and forth for about a half an hour and I really lay into this guy and start to raise my voice. Again, reason and logic do not register with this guy. I see the technicians in the shop standing around in case I jump this guy because I was getting really aggravated. He was arguing that because I had my wheels for a year and a half, that they would only pay a pro-rated repair and only give me some money to have them fixed. Then he started with the argument that they are not responsible for a "modified" car. I called out his bullshit and asked if they were capable of changing tires without damaging the wheels they were putting them on. He said they could, but I quickly pointed out the damage to the paint on my wheels stating they obviously could not. After going back and forth for a while longer, I asked them for their vehicle check in sheet. He looked at me like I was an idiot and then I explained what that was. Obviously, Sears Auto Center does not use a vehicle check in sheet to check and see if there is any damage to a car before they start to work on it. At this point it's going nowhere, so I ask to speak to his manager. He says that he is the only manager and gives me a number for a "customer relations" number. Afterwards, I made him take back the tires that the first Sears Auto Center. I went up to the Sears store after that and talked to a manager there. He was at least a little more empathetic to my situation. He told me to call the number that I was given, but also took down my info and said their Operations Manager would call me in a few days, because their Store Manager quit to work for Lowes. I still haven't received a call back from that manager yet. After that, I filed a claim with Sears' insurance company and sent them pictures of the damage yesterday. I also filed a complaint with the Attorney General's and the Better Business Bureau. Last night before I left work, the dimwitted Sears Auto Center manager left me a voicemail message saying that he wanted to try and work something out. I guess all the work that I put into this may have paid off. I will not accept anything but 100% free repair though. Here are the pictures I took of the damage. 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I think you're doing the right thing filing complaints with the right companies, and I agree that you should accept nothing less than a 100% free repair. How can they say that they didn't damage your wheels if they didn't do some sort of inspection before hand? Yeah they can't, and I'm pretty sure you're going to end up getting compensated for this whole ordeal. But I'm glad you told us about this because I've never been to Sears Auto dept and I never will.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: NVA-AV6 on September 26, 2009, 09:02:52 AM Damn.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: Mike on September 26, 2009, 10:35:23 AM This blows hopefully they handle this the right way.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: driveaccord on September 26, 2009, 11:44:29 AM Damn tim....I dread the day and hope this kind of situation never happens to my wheels...I take pics of my wheels now before I go in for any kind of service on my car..I just won't risk this BS....recently I had someone at work back into my front passenger quarter panel and bumper area not doing a whole lot of damage but enough where it has to go to the body shop...so I go down to the parking office and they call for a sheriff to come out...he shows up and looks over the damage and says to me "how can we be sure that the damage happened here at work"...well now I was even more pissed...I told him that I baby my car and know for a fact that there was no damage on my car whatsoever...he was just trying to get out of having to fill out a report...now not knowing who hit my car I have to pay my deductible to get my car fixed....they better pay for the repairs on your wheels...dicks
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: lilmalu on September 26, 2009, 12:06:18 PM Man that sucks to hear. I could sorta understand your pain since my rims were damaged by dad.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: suleman_manji on September 26, 2009, 11:04:31 PM Damn, but hey at least you got to make them look like dumbasses haha.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: thisaznboi88 on September 27, 2009, 02:35:40 AM wow Fuck them I hate when people half ass there job how did they even manage to scrape the power coating off. Like I painted my rims and the guy I knew did a good job mounting my tires. He didn't even clip the paint and he wasn't using the touchless machine..
I hope things work out for you so you. Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: ibcnunv on September 27, 2009, 12:26:11 PM CoƱaso Loco! Sorry to hear this and i hope you get 100% of what you're asking for...
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: Milan on September 28, 2009, 12:20:43 AM Fuck, they did a number on those wheels. I'd be fucking fuming, just like you since I managed to keep my wheels looking like new for over a year as well. I hope those dicks pay up!
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: clapton924 on September 28, 2009, 02:17:38 AM That sucks Tim. I took one of my wheels to a tire shop to patch a hole and they chipped some of the paint off my rim. Damn 16 year-old kid working at the shop. Bad thing is I didn't notice the chip until like 2 weeks after the work was done...
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: rich on September 28, 2009, 10:03:53 AM seems like all audio installers are the same way. i would be fucking livid if something like this happened to my car. that's why when i got my car aligned. i sat outside in the blistering ass hot sun. i even had my digital cam just in case. even when i got my camber arms put on, even though i knew people at the shop, i still sat outside and watched.
but sears fucking fail for not having a pre check in list. hell we have check in lists at best buy so a customer cant say we fucked up their shit. even circuit city had it. any place that works on vehicles that doesnt have a pre check in list is just begging for a lawsuit! hope u get this fixed i know if this was me and it couldnt be repaired i'd say "well, i guess u owe me new rims now dont you?" Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on September 28, 2009, 11:01:16 AM If these weren't repairable, they would be replaced at full price.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: thisaznboi88 on September 28, 2009, 11:32:09 AM dang time to pick out new rims TIM!! I hope you get it all worked out soon.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on September 28, 2009, 05:02:45 PM I finally returned the manager's call today. I guess he is a little bit S-L-O-W. He said he couldn't offer a solution now that I have filed a claim with their insurance company that he told me to call. This fucking moron is getting on my last nerve. I think I need to call "customer relations" and complain that this guy is now fucking with me. So, let's recap:
- I get my tires replaced Sears and my wheels are damaged on 09/13 - I discover the damage on my wheels on 09/21 - I go to Sears and speak to the manager to get them repaired on 09/21 - I am told by the manager to call customer resolutions to file a claim on 09/21 - I call customer resolutions and they tell me to call their insurance company on 09/22 - I call the insurance company and file a damage claim on 09/22 - I file a complaint with Sears, The Attorney General's Office, and the Better Business Bureau on 09/22 - I receive a call from the insurance company on 09/23 and play phone tag until 09/24 - I speak to the insurance company about the incident at depth on 09/24 - I send pictures of the damage on 09/25 in the morning - I receive a call from the manager saying he wanted to "work something out" at the end of the day on 09/25 - I call the manager back and I'm told that he can't help me because I already filed a claim on 09/28 Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: CrazyCreashunz on September 28, 2009, 05:21:55 PM So much drama on behalf of Sears... Tim I hope you get what you want from them, and when you do go back to that shop manager and tell him to go fuck himself! Lolz
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on October 13, 2009, 11:20:13 AM Looks like I'm going to be taking Sears to court. Sears' insurance company said they would only pay for the damage on one wheel since they're claiming the other damage was "pre-existing" scratches from regular use.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: Mike on October 13, 2009, 12:31:53 PM I'm sure there are plenty of photos of your ride around to show this is not the case. That's just poor business.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on October 13, 2009, 02:10:36 PM Going to small claims court and then I think I'm going to part everything out. I'm fucking done with this crap.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: Mr Eazy on October 13, 2009, 04:09:19 PM Quote from: "timot_one" Going to small claims court and then I think I'm going to part everything out. I'm fucking done with this crap. Damn bro, I just saw this thread. Such bullshit. Good luck with the small claims court. I'm going through similiar shit now and it's a fucking hassle. Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on October 19, 2009, 11:19:50 AM Just found out about a nice Massachusetts Law called Chapter 93A. Doing my research to find out what my grounds are and if I stand to have Sears now pay me out double or triple for the damage they created.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: v6sicksspeed on October 26, 2009, 04:38:16 PM damn man, sears auto center is a fucking joke. my one and only experience with them was when i got new summer tires last year. i called up to see if they had what i wanted in stock and they said that they did and to come on by. upon arriving they had a single 19'' toyo proxey, and furthermore NO 18's in stock WHATSOEVER. i left. never going back.
good luck in small claims. they better pay up. Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on October 26, 2009, 05:05:35 PM Thanks for reminding me that I needed to call their insurance company to harass them again.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: CrackerTeg on October 26, 2009, 05:21:01 PM Get 'em Tim!
(http://hardlinemarxist.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/pitbull-thumb-336x403.jpg) Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: rajin929 on October 28, 2009, 09:14:34 AM damn that sucks, sorry to hear that - hopefully everything gets resolved
lesson learned, don't go to those 'department store' shops and trust your ride to a bunch of fuck nuts. Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: Slammedk24 on October 28, 2009, 09:23:15 AM I dont know if your sears had one, but the sears here does not have a tire machine for low pros, and maybe thats why they screwed yours up because they tried to change your tires on a regular changing machine
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: rajin929 on October 28, 2009, 09:46:03 AM reverse tire mount FTW
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on October 30, 2009, 11:31:39 PM That's exactly how they fucked them up. They didn't use a touch free tire machine.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: skizot on November 18, 2009, 11:08:31 PM I just came across this thread. Tim, I need you to take a deep breath.
I know this has been one hell of a situation, but let me give you some very friendly and supportive advice. As someone who has worked in customer service for the last 7 years and I know the company you work for, so I am sure you have plenty of stories of the same, here is my advice. You need to write a thought out, well drafted letter and send it to the following two individuals: W. Bruce Johnson - Acting CEO Edward S. Lampert - Chairman of Sears Holding Company Sears Holdings Corporation: 3333 Beverly Road Hoffman Estates, IL 60179 (847) 286-2500 You can even call them at the above number. You will explain to them your intent to pursue legal action at some point near the end of a rational and calm letter. Explaining that your intent is to simply be put back whole and have the damaged caused resolved. If seriously after getting the letter into these two individuals hands, your issues are not resolved, then pursue legal action accordingly. I think you will be surprised (I am hoping) what will happen when the higher ups within an organization received feedback such as this. As a last resort, you can also contact their media relations office and explain to them your intent to contact a local news station problem solvers division and explain that should they not provide you with the assistance you are requesting, you will go public with the damage caused. Sears Holdings Media Relations Phone - (847) 286-8371 Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: thisaznboi88 on November 19, 2009, 12:05:15 AM dang this is still on going? GL Tim!
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on November 19, 2009, 12:21:14 AM Scott, thank you for the advice. At this point, I am playing games with Sears insurance company. They claim adjuster keeps wasting my time and dragging it out. I left him an unhappy message today since he has been avoiding me. I will be writing a letter to both people you mentioned to try and get this issue resolved. You are correct about my intent. All I want is to have my wheels repaired to the condition they were in before the Sears Auto Center damaged them. I'm not looking for any money, nor do I want a refund for my purchase. I am only looking to have my wheels repaired.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: Asim on November 19, 2009, 11:43:54 AM We had lots of problems with Sears when we bought a couch recently and it arrived (brand new) with stains and almost tears at the leather sewing.
It took them almost a year before they came to our house and looked at it. And even longer before they came to clean it or tighten the sewing. It was very dissapointing. Sears customer service is pretty terrible nowadays, they are nothing like the company of yesterday Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on January 26, 2010, 02:23:03 PM So, here's an update on the situation. Around Christmas time, they sent out a Property Damage Adjuster to assess the damage to my wheels. He came out, looked at them, and basically said that it looked like the damage was caused by Sears. Moving forward another week or two, I get a call from a new claim adjuster because the original one had moved to a different office. The old claim adjuster made a huge cluster fuck of the entire situation, that this new guy had to clean up. The new guy basically said that they were going to accept my claim and issue a check. A few weeks later, he calls me back saying he's still trying to figure out the shit pile left behind by the first adjuster. My father likes to get involved with this sort of stuff and is good at chewing people out, so he called the supervisor's supervisor and gave the insurance company a mountain of shit for fucking around so long. I guess Sears didn't want to issue a check until after I signed a release of responsibility form. There was no fucking way I was going to sign anything saying they weren't responsible for the damage until I had money in my hands. Well, I got home last night and found a check from Sears for $812 and a 2nd letter from the insurance company that they wanted me to sign to say that Sears wasn't responsible for the damages. I'm going to have a lawyer look at it, because I don't plan on signing anything if I don't have to.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: Mike on January 26, 2010, 03:26:07 PM Glad to see they finally did something about it. The letter thing sounds a little odd to me. Are they asking to be released of responsibilty because they have paid for repairs or are they trying to pull a fast one?
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: CrazyCreashunz on January 26, 2010, 03:26:28 PM Glad you got compensated for the damages and personally I wouldn't sign anything that says they weren't responsible even if they cut you a check! They were responsible point blank, next time they should be more careful....
...I smell a new mod coming along when that check is deposited. Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on January 26, 2010, 03:57:18 PM I'm not inclined to sign anything unless there are legal consequences. As far as the money goes, I'm probably going to put that into a new set of wheels and sell the ones I have as is. I'm looking for something a little wider than what I currently have. I've been looking for a set of Gram Light R57-TC's, Volk RE30's, or even a set of Ron Jon Legends. This may be a pre-notice that my Buddy Clubs will be for sale.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: v6sicksspeed on January 26, 2010, 04:26:30 PM that sounds ass backwards to me. why cut you a check (proving they are responsible) and then make you sign something dismissing them of all liability.
deposit the check asap Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: skizot on January 26, 2010, 06:21:11 PM haha awesome they took care of it. I KNEW and TOLD you this would work out!!!
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: Rich01 on January 26, 2010, 09:00:22 PM I think they want you sign that even after the pay out so that you cant sue them in the future. It's what these companies do all the time. They are settling, but not admitting fault. Deposit that shit ASAP, should in case they cancel it.
Title: Re: Sears Auto Center Damaged My Wheels Post by: timot_one on January 26, 2010, 10:21:01 PM I already deposited the check today on my lunch break. Fuck them if they think I'm going to sign shit for them. They can suck my balls.
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