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Title: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: drpimp304 on July 17, 2009, 09:34:15 AM
im talking about speed considering time on the drag track whats the best car and engine configuration  :?:


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: CrackerTeg on July 17, 2009, 09:38:38 AM
EG hatch with a K swap.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: slipkord on July 17, 2009, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
EG hatch with a K swap.

+1

Pick up a HondaTuning mag and their all in there


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: Skippy on July 17, 2009, 09:50:56 AM
That question has about as many answers as "what is your favorite food?" or "why do Islamists hate the western world?"

A good friend of mine once said, "Honda's are like legos...you don't like the engine? Just pull it out and put any one you want in there."  This statement is very true.

In short...you must find out what you're going to be using the car for, and then pick a chassis and engine combination that fits the profile.  If you're looking for something good in straight lines, you might want to try a civic EK with a J series V6 engine.  If you want something good for stuff other than straight lines..you might want to try an integra with an LS-VTEC or K swap.  If you've got more money than brains, you might want to look at NSX's and S2000's.

The major problem with all of these platforms is that absolutely none of this crap will be street legal in your area.  Down here in Florida, we don't have emissions standards or vehicle inspections...so it's quite common to see 1000whp supras, beefed up STI's and EVO's, and other cars roaming the streets with equipment that is considered highly illegal in other states.  You'll need a shell, engine, special equipment if you're racing in sanctioned events, suspension components, and most important of all...a creative mind..so you can fix crap and make stuff work that was never supposed to in the first place.

In order to start a project from scratch, you're also going to need a lot of money.  If you're not doing the work yourself...things will get very expensive very quickly.  I do all of my own work, and I have the knowledge, venue, and tools to do so.  If you have a specialized skill such as welding, engine building, or chassis modification, you'll make friends quickly and that will lead to you getting stuff done cheaper and easier.

I would do some serious research into what you're looking for, and then find the right spot to do more research on engines.  This forum is mainly concerned with 7th generation accords, which use two different engine series; J's and K's.  If you're looking for B series techs, try Honda-Tech or other related sites.  If you're looking for K series techs, I have 4.5 years experience working with them.  If you're looking for J series techs, Paul (NVA-AV6) is an experienced engine builder.  That's about the entire bag of cats.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: thisaznboi88 on July 17, 2009, 07:37:48 PM
NSX bored out to 3.5L All motor monster


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: Rich01 on July 17, 2009, 11:32:28 PM
A civic CRX with a Supra twin turbo mid engine rear wheel drive build. I beleive it ran low 9s. The statement skippy made is correct. Honda's are like legos, the possibilities are endless when it comes to mods. When it comes to a nice, clean mod for the street: 92-95 hatch with a B18C swap(If I remember correctly this is the Integra type R engine) with tranny of course. A turbo kit at about 8lbs boost. A 2" drop with upper and lower tie bars. This was something I wanted to do back in college but the invesment was too rich for me.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: timot_one on July 18, 2009, 12:35:19 AM
For a drag car, I'd use a 1st Gen Insight with a built K series.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: NVA-AV6 on July 18, 2009, 08:19:38 AM
For pure balls out fun without a budget......

S2k (RWD) with a fully built J37 (Sleeves, rods, pistons, SS valve train), Twin GT28RS snails, cryoed tranny internals, Skyline rear end, battery reloed to trunk, this will yeaild a 55front 45 rear weighted 2100-2200 lbs car with excellent handeling and 750+RWHP. If you can't have fun with that you need to shoot yourself.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: wtcii on July 18, 2009, 08:39:01 AM
^ What types of cars will that keep up with?


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: CrackerTeg on July 18, 2009, 09:38:09 AM
Quote from: "wtcii"
^ What types of cars will that keep up with?

All of them. If you can put the power to the ground.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: wtcii on July 18, 2009, 09:44:45 AM
I'll take one please.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: MTsixspeed on July 18, 2009, 04:37:08 PM
Quote from: "timot_one"
For a drag car, I'd use a 1st Gen Insight with a built K series.

There is one of these in Tampa. The owner calls it the K-sight. It's pretty sweet, Tim. I liked the S2K instrument panel...


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: ibcnunv on July 18, 2009, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: "MTsixspeed"
Quote from: "timot_one"
For a drag car, I'd use a 1st Gen Insight with a built K series.


There is one of these in Tampa. The owner calls it the K-sight. It's pretty sweet, Tim. I liked the S2K instrument panel...


"Say, a rev-happy 2-liter K20 Honda engine with VTEC trumpets and 200 HP. This is exactly what the mischievous gremlins of LHT Performance did to produce the Honda K-Sight"

(http://www.chrismetcalfe.co.uk/images/ksight/DSC_0484.jpg)
(http://image.hondatuningmagazine.com/f/9826373/htup_0806_03_z+honda_insight+engine.jpg)


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: CrackerTeg on July 18, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
Quote Honda Tuning much Piero?


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: Blackhawk on July 18, 2009, 10:28:18 PM
That K-Sight is sweet! Nice post, Skip!


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: stirfriedferret on July 19, 2009, 03:41:16 AM
So many to choose from...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPBQuWhrgSE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPBQuWhrgSE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpLoXrLAInA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpLoXrLAInA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxIpxyUAVY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxIpxyUAVY)

Just listen to Skip's advice. I am just showing you these since you said you want a drag car... I'm sure these are all drag worthy.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: Skippy on July 20, 2009, 12:20:30 AM
I'm all for K-sights.  It's the most logical build since the car is stripped down pretty much to a gas tank, skins, and a powerplant from the factory.  All you really need to do is gut the lightweight interior, swap the motor and transmission, and then have fun.  That swap, being so light, should only really be used in a drag setup.  I doubt it would perform well in twisties.  

I like Paul's idea with the uber S2K but honestly I would prefer to have a coffin without wheels.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: NVA-AV6 on July 20, 2009, 06:53:33 AM
^Well, of course the braking and suspension would have to be upgraded to handle the power skip.......


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: Skippy on July 20, 2009, 12:02:14 PM
Oh no doubt it would need to be upgraded to the nines in order to be street safe, but all the safety equipment in the world cannot protect those not in the driver's seat.  The really sad thing is that accidents involving these ridiculously powerful cars almost always leave the idiot driver without a scratch, while passengers, pedestrians, and other innocents lose quite a bit more than sleep over the issue.  A 700whp S2K would be a hell of a ride though :)


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: wtcii on July 20, 2009, 03:19:56 PM
Im not sure what 700 hp would be like but here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUFFudEJnjk) is 701 hp :shock:


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: seththekorean on July 20, 2009, 03:34:38 PM
haha. i remember that video. lol.
i used to want to do an ek with a kswap. well i guess ej? the coupe version idk.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: drpimp304 on July 20, 2009, 04:31:16 PM
Quote from: "NVA-AV6"
For pure balls out fun without a budget......

S2k (RWD) with a fully built J37 (Sleeves, rods, pistons, SS valve train), Twin GT28RS snails, cryoed tranny internals, Skyline rear end, battery reloed to trunk, this will yeaild a 55front 45 rear weighted 2100-2200 lbs car with excellent handeling and 750+RWHP. If you can't have fun with that you need to shoot yourself.
is this a car or an airplane? :o


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: NVA-AV6 on July 21, 2009, 05:06:03 AM
Quote from: "wtcii"
Im not sure what 700 hp would be like but here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUFFudEJnjk) is 701 hp :twisted:


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: NVA-AV6 on July 21, 2009, 05:07:33 AM
Although now I am thinking of a Del Sol , rear engine conversion (have done one in the past with a H22) with a built V6 power train.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: Antoni0_23 on July 26, 2009, 12:27:48 PM
I think an h22 or b18 CRX would be best for straight line speed. There's not much torque required to move that since it doesn't weight at all. Is it possible to drop a v6 in the CRX? If so it'd be sick.


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: 05AccordV6 on July 29, 2009, 03:35:20 PM
A Fully built DC2 Type R gutted, stroked and fully built motor, all motor reving to 9500+ RPM, thats my bliss, but too bad finding a clean and unmolested Type R is about as hard or impossible as it gets, half of them have been stolen, and the est are more than likely modded up the wazoo


Title: Re: What do you guys think is the best honda car to build?
Post by: rafaeljose73 on September 19, 2009, 07:07:07 AM
2001 Prelude Type SH with a 2004 TL engine/6MT Swap Turbo AWD. Beware Skyline!

(http://www.simion.ca/prelude/images/P0006134_jpg.jpg)


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