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Title: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: Mr Eazy on July 05, 2009, 03:44:45 PM
While I was doing some research on brakes/rotors/pads I found out that some rotors get warped because of overtighening of the nuts.

So for those that don't know, cause I never knew: Honda recommends 80 ft lbs of torque for our wheels.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: CrackerTeg on July 05, 2009, 05:21:38 PM
I always knew there was a torque spec, but never heard of over tightened lug nuts causing rotor warpage. I guess my "German" torque spec of "gudenteit" isn't good enough. Though I will say my rotors aren't warped either.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: Abailey4 on July 05, 2009, 07:19:08 PM
I looked this up when I first starting messing with taking my wheels on and off cuz I was scared I wouldn't put em on tight enough and they would fall off. LOL!!! Main reason for purchasing my tq wrench.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: timot_one on July 05, 2009, 07:33:36 PM
This made me realize that I need a torque wrench now more than ever.  I've been torquing a lot of stuff to güdéntïght specs.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: wtcii on July 05, 2009, 07:37:19 PM
I just bought a Torque Wrench for my spring install project and its awesome. It's a Kobalt from Lowes with a lifetime warranty. I torqued my lugs to 80:)


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: JC04accord on July 05, 2009, 08:46:14 PM
I use the skippy method which is saying click click out loud.  Works wonders.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: CrackerTeg on July 05, 2009, 08:54:56 PM
That sounds very similar to gudenteit specs.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: MyNameIsThien on July 06, 2009, 01:34:37 AM
Shop torque wrenches FTW! Snap On torque wrenches to be exact. All Honda models require 80 ft lbs of torque except the new Odyssey. Try torquing an Enzo Ferrari or Porsche Carrera GT. Both cars require 200+ ft lbs of torque.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: Mr Eazy on July 06, 2009, 06:27:01 AM
Quote from: "MyNameIsThien"
Shop torque wrenches FTW! Snap On torque wrenches to be exact. All Honda models require 80 ft lbs of torque except the new Odyssey. Try torquing an Enzo Ferrari or Porsche Carrera GT. Both cars require 200+ ft lbs of torque.

200+ ft lbs. HOLY SHIT!!!

What do you guys think: should I change the name of this topic to something like proper torquing. And with the input of fellow members, I list the torque #'s for major diy jobs? Suspension, intake, headlights, bumper etc...


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: ibcnunv on July 06, 2009, 07:00:01 AM
A friend of mine is going through thick and thin because of a tire that needs to be replaced on his Odyssey.  It has run flats and no local tire shop could do the work.  They are saying that they a special machine to remove the tire.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: Jeff Likes Bagels on July 06, 2009, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: "Mr Eazy"
What do you guys think: should I change the name of this topic to something like proper torquing. And with the input of fellow members, I list the torque #'s for major diy jobs? Suspension, intake, headlights, bumper etc...
I'd say yes to both, but it looks like you already fixed the topic title. :P Go ahead with the others, though!

16lbs for the intake manifold, there's my input from what I've found! lol


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: Abailey4 on July 06, 2009, 10:49:08 AM
Quote from: "ibcnunv"
A friend of mine is going through thick and thin because of a tire that needs to be replaced on his Odyssey.  It has run flats and no local tire shop could do the work.  They are saying that they a special machine to remove the tire.


Yep my dealership went through that last year when we bought an Odyssey fromt the auction that needed tires. They're called Pax tires and we paid about $2K to get 4 brand new ones and mount and balance. As far as I know only Honda has the machine but other shops may have it but they would rarely use it so it wouldn't be worth their while compared to Honda.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: v6sicksspeed on July 06, 2009, 11:03:36 AM
i finally looked this up after experiencing hell on earth last winter with my old wheel locks (stripped locks and a broken key... high five) - i wanted to torque them properly so i got a torque wrench.  im surprised too just how little 80 ft lbs feels.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: MyNameIsThien on July 07, 2009, 01:34:20 AM
Quote from: "Abailey4"
Quote from: "ibcnunv"
A friend of mine is going through thick and thin because of a tire that needs to be replaced on his Odyssey.  It has run flats and no local tire shop could do the work.  They are saying that they a special machine to remove the tire.


Yep my dealership went through that last year when we bought an Odyssey fromt the auction that needed tires. They're called Pax tires and we paid about $2K to get 4 brand new ones and mount and balance. As far as I know only Honda has the machine but other shops may have it but they would rarely use it so it wouldn't be worth their while compared to Honda.

The PAX tires are "THE" worse tires ever made by Michelins, and it is the worse thing Honda had to move to. Why couldn't they just use standard RFT. Yes, only Honda and specialty tire shops has this machine. You can't even put alignment sensors on them.

Arie, so this is the Suspension and Handling subforum, you can list torque specs for wheels and suspension parts. You can start another torque spec thread in their respective subforums for other applications. IE: Intake manifold bolts, head bolts, exhaust manifold bolt, and so on.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: MyNameIsThien on July 07, 2009, 01:37:31 AM
Quote from: "v6sicksspeed"
i finally looked this up after experiencing hell on earth last winter with my old wheel locks (stripped locks and a broken key... high five) - i wanted to torque them properly so i got a torque wrench.  im surprised too just how little 80 ft lbs feels.

You think how little 80 ft lbs is. A Subaru STi only calls for 75 ft lbs of torque for the wheels. Some smaller cars like for an example a Chevrolet Tracker and or any Geo only calls for like 65 ft lbs of torque.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: ibcnunv on July 07, 2009, 05:32:26 AM
I'm picking up a torque wrench today since I have been taking off my wheel a lot lately.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: Paulius005 on July 12, 2009, 01:04:38 AM
Very nice info! I will be picking one up shortly, I'm sick of making the clicking sounds, I need the tool to do it for me :D


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: MyNameIsThien on July 12, 2009, 01:23:11 AM
The digital ones don't make a click noise. The digital ones vibrate and beeps when it gets to that torque spec.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: ibcnunv on July 20, 2009, 11:51:02 AM
I just got myself a PowerBuilt torque wrench for $25 at Struass Auto.


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: Mike on July 20, 2009, 11:58:11 AM
I'm a little late to this but, doesn't the warping of the rotors generally occur when the lugs are torqued down unevenly,  and not nessacarly from the torque it self?


Title: Re: [FYI] Proper Torqueing of lugnuts
Post by: ibcnunv on July 20, 2009, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: "lavalleemike"
I'm a little late to this but, doesn't the warping of the rotors generally occur when the lugs are torqued down unevenly,  and not nessacarly from the torque it self?


That too... However, that would cause the bolts to break off the hub.  That happened to me before in the Dominican Republic.


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