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Title: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: NWINNIE34 on March 09, 2009, 10:13:27 AM
so last night going about 50mph i hit the ultimate pot hole.... and something bad happened

i havent gotten too much of a chance to look into the issue... i also have a rental car for the next month so i have some time to figure it out

so i hit a huge pothole.... big bang... and maybe 1 mile down the road... the wheel starts shaking, and i hear a hissing coming out of the wheel while driving.
its not a continuous hiss... only lets air out on certain parts of the wheels rotation.

do you think i bent a rim so bad that its letting air out?
pretty sure i have a tubeless tire... so i don't think that's the issue...
maybe i snapped the metal bands in the tire?
im wondering if i need to just go to a tire shop and order a new tire or if i need to replace a cracked or bent rim.... the valve stem seems to be in good condition and there arent any major bends in the rim...

i have ling long 225/45/zr17's
they are directional treads

lemme know what you think


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: Blackhawk on March 09, 2009, 10:22:28 AM
Never heard of that tire brand but it's irrelevant to the issue you're having. I'd get a tire shop to look at it right away at least.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: JohnnyG123 on March 09, 2009, 10:32:39 AM
You probably did one or more of three things:
1. Bent the wheel so bad the tire wont seal up properly.
2. You cracked a wheel.
3. The impact of the hit cut the sidewall of your tire.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: MyNameIsThien on March 09, 2009, 10:36:34 AM
If its hissing air out, more and likely you bent the rim to where it is leaking out air. A bent rim will of course cause a shake. No one uses tubes in tires anymore except bicycle tires and old old school Hot Rods. First step to take is take it to a tire shop ASAP so they can check out the condition of the wheel and tire. An impact like so can all sorts of damages. From bent rims to bent suspension parts, so have them check out the suspension along with the wheel and tire.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: NWINNIE34 on March 09, 2009, 10:48:11 AM
Will do, I'll have my girlfriend take it over to a shop while I'm at work

New springs, shocks, and struts install soon...this isn't looking good

Is it possible to fix a bent rim or should I just look into getting a new one ?
The one rim wouldn't be that expensive since they were cheaper rims in the first place

When I went out to check it this morning it held air overnight.... I'm gonna look at some of the suspension internals tonight when I get home

This sucks !


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: Fenix on March 09, 2009, 12:11:42 PM
It does suck, but what sucks even more is living in new brunswick. I used to live there for 10 years, a friend of mine got shot across the street from my house.

To check for an air leak you can pour a little water over the suspected area. you see bubbles you got a leak.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: NWINNIE34 on March 09, 2009, 12:32:09 PM
wow...i actually live in highland park so im out of the bad parts of new brunswick area

i'll check it out... im thinking it has to be the rim....
whats the deal with trying to fix a bent rim?
is it even worth the effort to try to fix something like that ?


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: Fenix on March 09, 2009, 01:44:19 PM
if you can use your parents car or a friends car, take the rim with the tire off your car and bring it to the rim shop you bought it from. Or any local reputable shop. They can give you the best advice.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: ibcnunv on March 09, 2009, 02:14:35 PM
Since you hit so hard you may also want to make sure your axle is still okay and not bent…

Coming from sesame place I hit a crater that bent the rim but after a closer inspection and removal of that bent rim the vibration was still there.  It was the driver side axle that was bent too.  So if you replace or repair the rim and still have vibration in that wheel I would recommend check the axle.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: timot_one on March 09, 2009, 02:39:57 PM
Sorry to hear about the damage, but others in here are right.  Take it to a shop and get it checked out.  Right now, we're all speculating what the problem may be.  You yourself said that you haven't looked at it yet.  Hopefully the shop will be able to provide some better answers for you.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: NWINNIE34 on March 09, 2009, 07:38:12 PM
so heres the damage....

(http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr89/winndogg34/IMG00355.jpg)
(http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr89/winndogg34/IMG00356.jpg)
(http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr89/winndogg34/IMG00357.jpg)

OUCH OUCH OUCH OUCH OUCH !
axel looks ok so dont all the other components in there... but i def need a second opinion

any clue anything like this can be fixed?
or should i just order a new rim tonight?
found $162 shipped...   :o(


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: MyNameIsThien on March 09, 2009, 08:36:34 PM
Get a new rim. That rim is a goner.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: NWINNIE34 on March 09, 2009, 09:00:44 PM
yeah....

$150 free shipping... i guess its not as bad as it could have been
that god this didnt happen a month down the road when im dropped...

(just got my tokicos and ingalls rear camber kit in the mail today... Eibachs are in closet)
sigh...


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: ibcnunv on March 10, 2009, 07:54:36 AM
Quote from: "MyNameIsThien"
Get a new rim. That rim is a goner.


+1
yeah go and get a new one because the cost of repair will be up there too and that rim will never be the same again after.  

That was a major hole!!!


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: NWINNIE34 on March 10, 2009, 07:57:32 AM
yeah NO SHIT hahaha.... me and my friend just had our mouths open like ohhhh myyy goddddd

shit sucks man... ordered a new one last night.. should be shipped today

$200 pothole
DAMMIT !
i should send these pics to the Dept of Transportation and make sure they have it fixed....


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: ibcnunv on March 10, 2009, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: "NWINNIE34"
i should send these pics to the Dept of Transportation and make sure they have it fixed....


you know that is a great idea because someone could of been killed if they would of loss control because of it...


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: Mike on March 10, 2009, 09:02:22 AM
You may want to send them the photos with a nice letter asking them for some type of compensation. I know I had an issue like this in RI a few years back, and they reimbursed me for the tire and wheel after I sent them a letter with photos.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: Fenix on March 10, 2009, 09:07:08 AM
atleast in NY the pothole has to been previously documented for a week before they will compensate you.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: NWINNIE34 on March 10, 2009, 01:56:25 PM
worth a try i suppose... i have nothing to lose by sending it in
i'll let you all know how i make out

as for now i wait for rim to get shipped to me... then i install my suspension


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: v6sicksspeed on March 10, 2009, 04:00:28 PM
thats fixable, but yea if you can find another one for $150 shipped, then just go with the new one.  then you dont have to worry about the integrity of the rim being compromised from a fix.

that eats ass man.  i nailed a pothole on an exit ramp on 684 about a month ago that i thought FOR SURE fucked up my front rim.  after checking it out it was fine.  definitely dodged a bullett with that one.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: NWINNIE34 on March 10, 2009, 06:15:25 PM
this pothole felt like it snapped my axle haha im not shittin ya.... i coasted for at least 500 ft before i hit the gas again, i was so scared
what can ya do... ya win some ya loose some, i'll be sure to write a letter with a copy of my photo, no need to get pushy just wanna do the responsible thing and report it, if they decide to throw me a couple bucks i'll be more than happy to take a handout

new camera JUST came in the mail.. i'll take a nice pic later, that one above was from my cellphone camera


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: timot_one on March 10, 2009, 10:55:35 PM
Woah.  That's pretty gnarly damage to your rim.  Like everyone else has said, replace it.  Justin is right, it may be repairable but that would also compromise the integrity.  For $150 to replace it, I would have done the same thing.  Sorry to hear about it though.  I hope you can get reimbursed by the state or the city.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: Sworkhard on March 11, 2009, 05:57:27 PM
That's actually not too bad considering you have aftermarket rims (18" from the looks of things).  I hit a small boulder that was on a bridge deck with my accord and my oem 16" rim looked like that.  The tires were at 35PSI at that time.  I got mine fixed for $180 (because I could find any used ones quickly and new ones were $400 from the stealership).  Your definately better off going with a new one though.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: NWINNIE34 on March 11, 2009, 06:25:26 PM
i assume by the looks of things the tire should be fine... right?

went back to take a pic of that pothole and for some reason didnt see it.... weird......


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: Sworkhard on March 12, 2009, 04:47:31 PM
it looks like the tire is fine from the outside.  when you get it installed on your new rim, they will let you know if it damaged the tire on the inside.


Title: Re: UBER Pothole = Tire/Wheel Problems
Post by: thisaznboi88 on March 16, 2009, 05:10:40 PM
new rims. It will never be the same again even if you fix it


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