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I need to vent. I seriously cannot stand this new trend, fad, whatever the hell you want to call it.

Listen up. Stop !@#$ing installing wheels and tires that are not meant to be on your car. The rim sticking out past the design of the tire is beyond ridiculous and looks simply retarded. If you want a true staggered setup, get a car that can support it. 4 degrees of negative camber so your wheels will tuck. Really? It is just simply unnecessary and unsafe. Not to mention how ridiculous it looks. Sure, many people will say, damn that's slammed, hella flushed, whatever. To this I said, f--- off and stop putting other people in harms way for your stupidity.

I am so sick of people being put in harms way by this utterly ugly and ridiculous practice. This is not directed at anyone in particular, just a rant about this in general. I've said my two cents. I appreciate the forum to allow my voice to be heard.

Woah!  Hellaflush hate.  I have to side with you Scott.  The fact that it's a popular trend where the people promoting it are ignorant about how dangerous it is pisses me off.  I'm not into the "look" and think that anyone that promotes fashion over function should have their head examined.  On a happier note, this is my favorite post from an S2000 forum where some guy posted pics of his roommate's Accord sedan thinks he is the "first" person to ever put 10" wide wheels on a 7th Gen.  Here's the thread!

Low offset contet :D (http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?s=9cce77326047db59c648c7793e09ffab&showtopic=762671&st=0)

The only place it belongs is on a show car.. Even then I don't like the look.. Like Scott said keep it safe if not for yourself than for us.

I don't like hellaflush either...and I think that it looks like shit when the rears are angles out like that

hellflush = awesome ass rims....   i hate the stretch look tho

it just doesnt sound or look practical.

I like, the rim right to the fender, not sticking out any further, without a stretched tire, (I love squared off tires)

that to me is ideal or my idea of "flush"

I'm with all of you and the description Asim made is EXACTLY the way the setup should be. Hellaflush is hellretarded because of the reasons Scott said. Good post man. That is why THIS forum is the Accord Performance enthusiast club.

Don't get me started...I might not stop. There are members, even on here, that give the world's most shitty advice on what will fit and how to make it fit. I am literally scared out of my mind that I am driving on the same roads as them. Here is just one example of many.

http://www.hashiriyaexports.com/blog/20 ... -drifting/ (http://www.hashiriyaexports.com/blog/2009/04/advan-neova-ebisu-stretch-japan-drifting/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

Leaving forum before I lose my mind.

I hate the whole hella flush look too but what I hate more is putting rims on your car that are worth more than the car. Like when people put big ass rims on old ass shitty domestics. Like crown vics and oldsmobiles

I disagree... I've seen some older Civics with Volk wheels that look amazing, and the wheels are worth more than the car

I'm not going to lie.  For a little bit, I was into looking at cars that were doing the hellaflush setup.   Aggressive wheel fitment is pretty cool, as long as it is done safely.  Some people took it too far and stretched a tire beyond its limits.  That's when I stopped caring about hellaflush because people were unsafely stretching a tire.

In my opinion, hellaflush as a trend is dying.  People are getting over it.  In the US, it's all about reverse staggered setups now.  Sure, reverse stagger has been around for a long time, but it's starting to become big.

I'm all about going with an aggressive wheel, as long as it is safe and doesn't look dumb.  That means a more aggressive wheel than stock that will give you that flush look, but still have a squared tire.

Sorry, I guess I should have clarified myself. I hate it when someone puts 24"s on a 90' Crown Vic. Like when you have to raise the car to put the rims on. That type of wheel worth more than the car.

yeah it looks like shit. they still have 225 tires on so hangling is not that much better

What's hangling mean?

What you describe Bill are called "Donks." Here's an example:
(http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2006/10/rides_donk.jpg)

Don't even get me started on those piles of horse shit. I've spotted about four of them since I've been down here in Bumfuck, NC.

EXACTLY! There are so many of those down here! It kills me I just hope they roll sometimes going around a turn

(http://image.importtuner.com/f/32112933+w750+st0/impp_1004_02_o+2000_honda_civic_dx+rear_view.jpg)

I want to vomit

This makes me want to vomit
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jk your car is sick. I completely agree with that. I just dont see the point. It seems like it has no function and looks retarded.

Its unsafe and impractical as hell. It looks like something in the suspension is broken and the asshat that bought those tires couldn't afford the right sized tires to fit the wheels he spent too much money on for a ridiculous look. How's that for a run on sentence?

I gotta agree with this too, I seen a few older civics with ccw's and it looks amazing. I personally think to each his own because rims are what set off a car (hellaflush or not). Everything else on the car is basically cookie-cutter designs or small mods here and there.

More hellafail!!!

 http://v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=201065 (http://v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=201065" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

Dude, everyone but Neel is literally sucking that guys balls.  I'm sorry, but most of those guys on v6p don't seem to have much common sense and will just jock anyone's hellaflush/helladumpted set up.  I guess it's acceptable for your car to shoot sparks from the wheel wells when you encounter a small dip or bump on the freeway.  Way to make it even more unsafe douchebag.   I'm convinced that v6p is full of a bunch of fucking morons now.  Anyone that jocks something that stupid is a huge chach.

what about form over function lol

Wow, that looks horrible.

Damn Lex. I puked in my mouth. Twice.

It's really all about a balance when it comes to modifying a DD street car.

True but there's ZERO balance when it comes to that one that Lex posted.

+1 to the original post.  Its really stupid for all these posers to pretend they have a fucking lambo with a V10 engine.  Here in NOLA I see lots of the late 90's domestics with 22", 24", even 26" chrome rims.  Its so fucking stupid....

Unfortunately, many people in the custom car world have little intelligence.  There are enough aftermarket and OEM options for our cars that provide proper fitment that people don't need to be screwing around with all these unsafe custom setups.  

If having 10" wide rims on your Honda Accord is the best thing going for you in life....well...hahahahaha

I agree, although the hellaflush setup looks good on some carz to me it's not worth it!

Scott!!  I found the answer.  

Hellafunctional (http://hellafunctional.com/?page_id=2)

hellaphunctional  

I was recently at Titan Motorsports Grand Opening. Oh dear god...I don't think there was a car there without this stupid setup.

Ugghh.  Don't get me started about Titan Motorsports and their half ass customer service.  Those hacks almost fucked me up when I did my tranny swap.  I called to order my clutch 3 weeks before I came down there for the swap.  They said they would have it in 1 week.  I called them when I was driving down to make sure they had it waiting for me.  They said it wasn't going to be available until 2 or 3 weeks after I left.  I hammered them on the phone and made them get me one.  The manager there, Bottle, was a giant chach about the whole thing and kept trying to sell me a clutchmasters clutch.

i just saw your pics from the event.. i don't like that black s2k.. it's all over s2ki but i think it looks dumb as fuck..

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/sho ... p?t=201675 (http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=201675" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

OH DEAR GOD

I don't understand at all how people find that attractive. That has got to be the most ugly thing I have ever seen in the history of cars. I think it looks completely stupid when people tuck the rims under the fender...

I think that this (I love your car Skippy!) has got to be the best looking setup that I've seen.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d93/thedeke/P4200030.jpg)

The wheel well opening is the same distance around the whole tire, while still retaining that flushish look between the tire sidewall and the body. Now excuse me while I change my pants, I looked at that pic for too long.  

imo, none of the cars pictured in that thread are that bad.  i actually like most of them.

The wheels on the civic aren't aggressive, and it looks like the civic is on airbags.  That would explain the negative camber while parked.

The 350z looks really good to me.  The tire doesn't look stretched; if it is, it is a slight stretch but is still mounted on a wheel that is on the approved width range of the tire.

That Accord has plenty of space between the tire and fender.  The wheels aren't aggressive at all, indicated by the lack of lip on those wheels.  The thing that the Accord does have is that it is tucking tire, and in my opinion, it looks great..

I don't really like those wheels that much.  I guess ignorance is bliss.

I like those wheels alot but, only with proper fit.

JUST THE CIVIC, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE OTHER CARS!!!

From my locked thread: http://noelbarnum.zenfolio.com/p1025319 ... #h2e40351c (http://noelbarnum.zenfolio.com/p1025319110/h31ee5f53#h2e40351c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

Oops. This is just an example of what could happen. Enjoy.

thats crazy, i seend acouple of vdubs with the hellafush look. it can be tastefully done

Just ridiculous: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r6ltUgtFWI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r6ltUgtFWI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

Wow. I sort of wish it'd start raining during the video. I want to see how much that 1/32 of an inch of tire contact with the road will help.

OMGWTFLOLZ!! ^_^

w t f...

*facepalm*

(http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz233/krp2nyte/2ndpin009-1.jpg)

lol.. but he just wanted to be noticed!!!

Funny you mentioned Louisiana since I spotted this bad boy on I10 the other day on my way to Cali:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/crackerteg/74686aa7.jpg)


I spotted this asshole on v6p earlier today. Needless to say, his attitude was absolute shit. That guy is definite
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material.

Damn't! That caddie has a MS license plate!

Or maybe it was in Miss. I don't fucking know. Every state just kind of blurred together over those few days.

They could have just been visiting MS, not sure why they would want to do that though.

Don't know, don't care. The fucking thing was fugly with those retarded ass "floater" rims.

Not to mention the green and the tires...

What's the name of the Chach on v6p that's hellaretarded?  I really don't want that asshat to join here.

Chach = 220allboto

the red 7g would be so hot if the rear rim fitment matched the front which was nice w/o mad camber

That guy in the red 7th gen seems like a giant prick after what he said on v6p.

Agreed. What kills me is a lot of other people are saying that it looks mad awesome yo!

I hope that guy gets what's coming for him.

Linky the thread plz!

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/sho ... p?t=202624 (http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=202624" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

I like what Milan said...

ha, i actually posted in that thread.. i was nice about it since he'll do what he wants to do..  granted, to me, that car is ugly..  and he's doing it all kinds of wrong.

people will like that look.  and they'll want to go for it.  but when they do it like that guy, it ends up ugly..

That guy seems like a complete jerk off.  I had to post.

Just saw your post Tim. I know you can do better than that. I'm going to refrain since enough has been said.

I wasn't trying to start a fight.  I don't care about v6p that much anyway.  I just had to say something.

True. Totally not worth starting a fight. It just seemed like you were holding back you're true feelings. Hell, if you'd like, you can post it here so we get a laugh at your angry ramblings. Just a thought.

yeah I thought you were kinda weak on that one too Tim, I even went back to look for your post after I saw here that you posted...and that's after I had already closed out the thread after reading the first page

I agree with you Scott. I always thought it was ridiculous to have the rim out further than the tire. When that person hits the curb, i'll be laughing. Some of the accords I've seen look pretty nice but the ones with the camber gotta go.

If you guys really want to know how I feel, I think it's the stupidest fad ever.  That Accord is retarded looking.  There's a ton of camber in the rear, and none in the front.  Just that alone looks fucking retarded.  I just love how that asshat touts how big his wheels are (compensating for something maybe?), but doesn't say how much camber he's running or how much of a "stretch" he has.  Either way, it's dangerous.  He's not even going to look cool when he crashes his car.

now that was a good bitch out tim lol

agreed, or if at most, sticking out just ever so slightly with a touch of camber (i.e. Ken's set up on his TSX Asim)

just enough to fill the wheel wells with no issues with rubbing or turning full lock

silly kids in Cali with ther stupid definitions on what is "flush" and what will "fit"....I wonder what the next fad will be