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Title: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: MyNameIsThien on February 06, 2009, 01:53:06 AM First go to your local shop and get the belt, it should cost about $30.
The right tool for this job is going to make all the difference in the world. I know a mechanic and he let me borrow this. It's a Snap On XDHFM1417 and looks like this. (http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s15/kumatae/serpentinebelt001.jpg) (http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s15/kumatae/serpentinebelt002.jpg) This socket wrench has a slight tip that will get in to the auto tensioner to do the job right. (http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s15/kumatae/serpentinebelt003.jpg) The auto tensioner is this guy right here. (http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s15/kumatae/serpentinebelt004-1.jpg) You can't fit a regular 14mm socket wrench due to the tight space. So you need the tool above and place is like this. (http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s15/kumatae/serpentinebelt006.jpg) You want to crank it towards the front of the car (counter clockwise) and it will loosen the belt and from here, I hope you can figure it out. Make sure you know the route of the belt! If not look that up on line like here http://honda.justanswer.com/uploads/lor ... p_belt.doc (http://honda.justanswer.com/uploads/lorunner/2007-11-05_185723_03_accord_serp_belt.doc) Hope this helps! It took me 5 minutes from start to finish. Best $70 I've ever saved and feel the difference! Transfered from Gen7Accord.com Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: AV6NHBP6SPD on June 29, 2009, 11:18:09 AM this is not timing belt is it
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: timot_one on June 29, 2009, 01:25:15 PM No. Otherwise the thread title would have been How To: Replace Your Timing Belt For the J30.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: AV6NHBP6SPD on June 29, 2009, 01:40:37 PM probably gona do it. i think this is the belt that makes noise on start up. whats honda recomended replacement interval on this thing
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: Jeff Likes Bagels on June 29, 2009, 02:42:34 PM I may get the TSX belt whenever/if ever I get some Ralco pulleys...
It was the TSX belt that fits our cars, and not the type-S one, right? Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: thisaznboi88 on June 29, 2009, 07:26:38 PM yeah you can use the tsx/accord one for the ralco. The UR one might be different since they have different specs. If you want I have some left over pulley If you want some.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: MyNameIsThien on June 29, 2009, 08:53:40 PM Quote from: "AV6NHBP6SPD" probably gona do it. i think this is the belt that makes noise on start up. whats honda recomended replacement interval on this thing Honda does not have an interval for the serpentine belt. You just replace when you see cracks, or when the belt is contaminated and cause a belt squeel from time to time. Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: AV6NHBP6SPD on June 30, 2009, 08:09:42 AM Quote from: "MyNameIsThien" Quote from: "AV6NHBP6SPD" probably gona do it. i think this is the belt that makes noise on start up. whats honda recomended replacement interval on this thing Honda does not have an interval for the serpentine belt. You just replace when you see cracks, or when the belt is contaminated and cause a belt squeel from time to time. ok good enough of a reason to replace it. it sequels when i start the car and it looks brown Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: Mike on June 30, 2009, 10:03:55 AM I replaced mine because I had a squeal, and it fixed the problem. I need to order this tool though I used a regualar box wrench, and it was a nightmare.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: timot_one on June 30, 2009, 11:45:48 AM Damnit, I need to replace mine too. Mine's only 2 months old though.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: Jeff Likes Bagels on June 30, 2009, 08:51:40 PM Do you think this belt would be the cause of a very faint whining noise in the engine? I noticed that when I'm cruising around, I can hear a whining noise, but I know for a fact it's not the intake. It sounds like it's coming from a belt, but I don't know if it would be this belt or not.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: InFuMoUs on June 30, 2009, 09:55:29 PM I thought it was the belt tensioner that caused the squealing noise during warm-up.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: timot_one on June 30, 2009, 10:02:47 PM It could be the tensioner or a bad belt. The belt is cheaper and easier to replace.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: MyNameIsThien on June 30, 2009, 11:05:03 PM A whining noise won't be from the belts. Belts usually make a squeel noise. When replacing your serpentine belt, always check the tensioner. Since both the V6 and I4 have an auto tensioner, the auto tensioner has a higher tendecy to go bad down the road. The tensioner starts to have play (gets kind of loose) and causes the belt to walk around on the tensioner or idler pulley. You can use a box end wrench to loosen the tensioner pulley. The trick is to use 1. a cheater pipe or 2. a slightly bigger wrench and use the double wrench technique.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: MyNameIsThien on June 30, 2009, 11:10:36 PM Yes, the idler, and/or belt tensioner can cause a squeel. Although it is very rare to see a Honda idler or tensioner to go bad. I have seen Honda auto belt tensioner still in full function with 250k miles on it (6th Gen V6 Accord). You usually will see a bad tensioner go out on domestic cars. IE: Ford, Chrysler/Dodge, and GM. Imports and Euros I have not seen a tensioner go bad yet.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: InFuMoUs on June 30, 2009, 11:27:14 PM Well that's good to know. I've notice a few squeaks during cold starts, but none to over bearing since it went a away after warming up.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: MyNameIsThien on June 30, 2009, 11:51:24 PM How many miles do you have there Steve? I'm leaning towards the belt. It might have caught some contaminate like coolant or oil, but after it warms it goes away. The reason why is because during cold start the belt is in standard form. After the belt has warmed up, the belt tends to expanded. As you know rubber contracts and expands depending on the tempature.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: InFuMoUs on July 01, 2009, 04:15:05 PM Quote from: "MyNameIsThien" How many miles do you have there Steve? I'm leaning towards the belt. It might have caught some contaminate like coolant or oil, but after it warms it goes away. The reason why is because during cold start the belt is in standard form. After the belt has warmed up, the belt tends to expanded. As you know rubber contracts and expands depending on the tempature. I'm around 59k-60k miles now. I might just purchase a new belt and change it when I'm about to do my 60K maintenance or hold onto it till the sound get worst. I gotta check the manual again to see when it needs inspecting/replacing. Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: MyNameIsThien on July 01, 2009, 09:00:49 PM Serpentine belts don't have a service interval on our Accords. If you feel the need to replace, go ahead and replace it. The belt is fairly cheap. I would say about $50-$80 range. As you can see, the installation and removal is fairly easy. Just remember your belt routing.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: InFuMoUs on July 01, 2009, 11:12:11 PM Thanks for the tip. I'm gonna check the condition of it when I get a chance. I just want to confirm if this is the correct part number for it click me (http://hondapartsunlimited.com/schonda/jsp/prddisplay.jsp?catcgry1=ACCORD&catcgry2=2003&catcgry3=4DR+LX&catcgry4=KA5AT&catcgry5=A%2FC+++++COMPRESSOR+%28L4%29&ListAll=All&vinsrch=no&systemcomp=Body%2FAir+Conditioning&prdrefno=&quantity=0&act=&count=0&hidSwitch=Switch&hidIrno=%7C011)
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: MyNameIsThien on July 01, 2009, 11:40:04 PM Yep. That is the one. Before you take off the belt, make sure you have a belt routing. I can get you a diagram tomorrow. (If I remember to get it)
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: InFuMoUs on July 02, 2009, 11:31:50 AM Ya I'll be sure to draw it out when I do it. I'd be scratching my brain if I didnt. Thanks again.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: striktlyaccord on September 21, 2009, 02:47:31 AM Ah, belt replacement. Such a pain with underdrive pulleys. F*ck you UR.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: Jeff Likes Bagels on September 21, 2009, 07:16:22 AM Judging from the list of belts + sizes you posted on the other thread, It seems to be as though the stock TSX belt should work. That's taking 1.25" off the stock Accord belt. However, it's hard to say because I don't know how little slack your Gates belt had. Maybe even that next size up Gates one could work (1.875" smaller than stock).
Quote from: "striktlyaccord" Stock Accord belt is 70 3/4" (Gates part # K070701) Recommended Gates replacement belt is 68 7/8" (Gates part #K070683) - this is apparently way too small, and the size difference from the stock Accord belt is pretty drastic The next belt size up is 69 1/8" (Gates part #K070685) Stock TSX & CRV belt is 69 1/2" (Gates part #K070690) Stock RSX-S belt is 68 5/8" (Gates part #K070680) - this'll be way too small as well Maybe we should get some guinea pigs to test out the best solution. I'm sure there are many other options, however. It just takes some research and patience. Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: striktlyaccord on September 22, 2009, 12:56:48 AM Well the problem was that the Gates belt had no slack at all... in fact, it wasnt even gonna come close to fitting and came nowhere near the top of the last pulley it needed to fit over. And unfortunately, I can't be a guinea pig, nor do I have much patience.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: Jeff Likes Bagels on September 22, 2009, 09:13:39 AM Well, whenever I'm going to get a new belt, I'm going to get the TSX belt. It seems to be the best solution for people with pulleys.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: striktlyaccord on September 22, 2009, 07:41:24 PM Quote from: "Jeff" Well, whenever I'm going to get a new belt, I'm going to get the TSX belt. It seems to be the best solution for people with pulleys. Even that belt might be way too small. Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: Jeff Likes Bagels on September 22, 2009, 10:01:04 PM Really? I guess you weren't kidding when you said that the Gates belts have negative slack, lol.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: striktlyaccord on September 24, 2009, 01:01:53 AM Quote from: "Jeff" Really? I guess you weren't kidding when you said that the Gates belts have negative slack, lol. Well, obviously if the belt it too small it won't have any slack. That was the case with the one I got based on UR's recommendation... too damn small. But, after doing a lot of research yesterday, I think I've figured out why their recommendation was so wrong. Hint hint, the RSX, TSX and Accord are not the same car... I know, shocker. Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: timot_one on September 24, 2009, 11:00:45 AM So which belt are you going to use Dave? You don't have to take it to a shop if you don't want to. I would be more than happy to help you with this. I would honestly recommend that you go and buy 2 different belts (that you think are the right size) from Auto Zone and we test fit them. Whatever doesn't fit, you return. Like I've suggested before, don't overthink this one. It's very easy to replace a serpentine belt, and should only take about 5-10 minutes. I'd be more than glad to come down there and help you out, or we can meet up half way at my friend's house. Either way, it's your call.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: striktlyaccord on September 25, 2009, 02:00:44 AM ^ I already returned the 68 7/8" Gates belt that I bought at NAPA and am planning on possibly trying a 70" belt next per Levi's (yes, Levi) suggestion to me on Car Domain. I'm still looking for Gates belts, but the Gatorback ones look kinda tempting too. I know the belt replacement is easy and I could do it no problem, so no need for you to make the trek down my way (that is until I start my fog project or audio build). I just had my mechanic attempt it last time because my car was already going into his shop for other work anyway.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: striktlyaccord on September 29, 2009, 08:56:59 PM The 70" belt fits well.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CYANiDE on March 29, 2010, 03:57:16 PM Should I get a Gatorback? If so what's the part # is it for the gatorback? OEM is like $40 from dealership and its $30 from bernardi but shipping kills the deal for me.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CrazyCreashunz on May 24, 2010, 09:17:40 PM Quote from: "striktlyaccord" ^ I already returned the 68 7/8" Gates belt that I bought at NAPA and am planning on possibly trying a 70" belt next per Levi's (yes, Levi) suggestion to me on Car Domain. I'm still looking for Gates belts, but the Gatorback ones look kinda tempting too. I know the belt replacement is easy and I could do it no problem, so no need for you to make the trek down my way (that is until I start my fog project or audio build). I just had my mechanic attempt it last time because my car was already going into his shop for other work anyway. Found this online... would this be a good choice? I think I need to change mine already! http://www.drivewire.com/basket.php?add_item_id=72391 Gates V Belt GATES MICRO V BELT -- A High Quality Micro-V Belt, Effective Length 70.14 x 70.704 x 0.947 $27.80 Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CYANiDE on May 24, 2010, 11:08:39 PM Quote from: "CrazyCreashunz" Quote from: "striktlyaccord" ^ I already returned the 68 7/8" Gates belt that I bought at NAPA and am planning on possibly trying a 70" belt next per Levi's (yes, Levi) suggestion to me on Car Domain. I'm still looking for Gates belts, but the Gatorback ones look kinda tempting too. I know the belt replacement is easy and I could do it no problem, so no need for you to make the trek down my way (that is until I start my fog project or audio build). I just had my mechanic attempt it last time because my car was already going into his shop for other work anyway. Found this online... would this be a good choice? I think I need to change mine already! [url]http://www.drivewire.com/basket.php?add_item_id=72391[/url] Gates V Belt GATES MICRO V BELT -- A High Quality Micro-V Belt, Effective Length 70.14 x 70.704 x 0.947 $27.80 Billy, I bought the Gatorback for about the same price on eBay and I've heard some good things about it. You might want to go that route. I'll let you know when I install mine whenever it gets here. Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CrazyCreashunz on May 25, 2010, 10:44:42 AM Quote from: "CYANiDE" Quote from: "CrazyCreashunz" Quote from: "striktlyaccord" ^ I already returned the 68 7/8" Gates belt that I bought at NAPA and am planning on possibly trying a 70" belt next per Levi's (yes, Levi) suggestion to me on Car Domain. I'm still looking for Gates belts, but the Gatorback ones look kinda tempting too. I know the belt replacement is easy and I could do it no problem, so no need for you to make the trek down my way (that is until I start my fog project or audio build). I just had my mechanic attempt it last time because my car was already going into his shop for other work anyway. Found this online... would this be a good choice? I think I need to change mine already! [url]http://www.drivewire.com/basket.php?add_item_id=72391[/url] Gates V Belt GATES MICRO V BELT -- A High Quality Micro-V Belt, Effective Length 70.14 x 70.704 x 0.947 $27.80 Billy, I bought the Gatorback for about the same price on eBay and I've heard some good things about it. You might want to go that route. I'll let you know when I install mine whenever it gets here. Lolz ok... Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CrazyCreashunz on September 30, 2010, 04:05:37 PM Hey Eric do you have that special wrench to loosen the tensioner...?
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CYANiDE on September 30, 2010, 04:24:31 PM Nah man...I ended up taking it to my mechanic for $20 and he did it for me. The wrench was about the same so I said why not lol I got too lazy.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CrackerTeg on September 30, 2010, 04:52:11 PM Lazyness kills. Or does it make you fat? I can't remember.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CYANiDE on October 01, 2010, 11:54:52 AM Lazyness kills. Or does it make you fat? I can't remember. I'm not dead yet so it's definitely made me fat. Not laziness - didn't make sense though - stealership wanted $25 and change, mechanic wanted $20. I'm not changing the belt for a long, long while, so I said why not. Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: gargantula99 on January 25, 2011, 08:27:50 AM Is this the same concept for the J30's?
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: Mike on January 25, 2011, 08:56:53 AM Is this the same concept for the J30's? Yes but if my momeory serves me correctly you need to go toward the rear (j30) to relieve tension. With the right tool this should take all of 20 minutes. Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: timot_one on January 25, 2011, 09:08:03 AM Is this the same concept for the J30's? Most likely, but this would be a great thing to look for in the J Series forum. ;) Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: gargantula99 on January 25, 2011, 09:41:22 AM Most likely, but this would be a great thing to look for in the J Series forum. ;) This would be true.....if it existed! :P Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: timot_one on January 25, 2011, 10:10:31 AM Time to man up and make one.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: gargantula99 on January 25, 2011, 10:24:09 AM Ha! Is that what you were trying to imply with the subliminal "nudge". You've got to be more direct about these things with me Tim. I'll look into that write up once the weather warms up a little. In the mean time, I think my belt can hold on for another month or two.
Just have to find the replacement belt and I can't find it on Majestic's website. Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CrackerTeg on January 25, 2011, 10:35:03 AM That wasn't a subliminal nudge from Tim. That was more of a subliminal kick in the junk.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: cna on January 31, 2011, 10:13:44 PM Ha! Is that what you were trying to imply with the subliminal "nudge". You've got to be more direct about these things with me Tim. I'll look into that write up once the weather warms up a little. In the mean time, I think my belt can hold on for another month or two. Just have to find the replacement belt and I can't find it on Majestic's website. You can go to autozone there Duralast belt fit perfectly and its less the 25$ Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: gargantula99 on January 31, 2011, 10:25:52 PM I found it. It was under the air conditioning section.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: Mike on January 31, 2011, 11:06:09 PM Duralast = Junk! OEM is $30
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: gargantula99 on February 01, 2011, 05:53:22 PM I'll get it next week. My OEM lasted 60K miles, I'm not switching from that. No reason to. Regardless, I'm still gonna change it again.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CrackerTeg on February 03, 2011, 01:16:40 PM Duralast = Junk! OEM is $30 Honestly, Duralast is only good for junk tools you won't feel bad about grinding down to make something else or just straight up destroying.Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CrazyCreashunz on January 25, 2014, 05:45:06 PM Damn needed the route of the belt and the damn link don't work! Lolz... off to search I guess :flip:
EDIT: (http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/crazycreashunz/lastf.jpg) Title: Re: Post by: accordguy04 on January 26, 2014, 12:32:13 AM What bumper is that in the pic? Lol. Doesn't look OEM...
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CrazyCreashunz on January 27, 2014, 04:19:21 PM Looks like its the coupe. Everything in the picture is enlarged so... but then again what do I know :angel:
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: 2i2dk1ny2i3 on January 20, 2015, 11:22:00 PM my Belt started squealing a lot more since Winter time...tried to put some Belt dressing to stop the squeal until replacement but didn't help much
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: Pascal on January 21, 2015, 09:16:58 AM the belt is cheap and takes like 2 minutes to replace, no reason to wait and spend money on "fixing" stuff.
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: CrackerTeg on January 21, 2015, 10:28:41 AM ^This
Title: Re: How To: Replace Serpentine / Accessory / Drivebelt Post by: gargantula99 on January 24, 2015, 02:53:00 PM Seriously, it takes 5 if you don't know what you're doing
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