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Title: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 26, 2010, 12:08:57 AM
Is there a way to make the Hybrid or TSX mirrors flash when I lock and unlock the car? Thanks.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: cna on July 26, 2010, 12:50:25 AM
you can always tap them into your turn signals and that should make them flash


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 26, 2010, 12:52:14 AM
Well they are wired in to the turn signals already.  I want to make them flash though when the car is locked and unlocked (which is the parking lights).  However, I don't want them to stay on when the parking lights are on.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: InFuMoUs on July 26, 2010, 03:36:36 PM
I would think it's possible, but you would have to use a relay somewhere.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 26, 2010, 08:21:50 PM
Yeah, it's possible if you use a relay.   ;D

If it were me, this is how I would wire it up with a SPDT relay:

30 - the 12v wire for the lights in the hybrid mirrors
87a - the 12v parking light wire
86 - the 12v accessory wire
85 - ground

Enjoy!


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 26, 2010, 08:25:30 PM
Yeah, it's possible if you use a relay.   ;D

If it were me, this is how I would wire it up with a SPDT relay:

30 - the 12v wire for the lights in the hybrid mirrors
87a - the 12v parking light wire
86 - the 12v accessory wire
85 - ground

Enjoy!


Thanks, but I am totally noob at this, so where and what do I buy?  Is this just 1 relay per side that I can get at an autoparts store and basically tap into the wires?


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 26, 2010, 08:30:47 PM
For this, you only need to wire up one relay and make sure the wire for 30 goes to both mirror signals, but one of them has to be diode isolated.  If you're a noob, it may be better to have someone make a harness for you that you would solder up to your car.  Where are you located?


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 26, 2010, 08:37:14 PM
I am in STL, MO.  I am super noob for this kinda wiring.  Thanks for your assistance!


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 26, 2010, 09:33:39 PM
Bummer.  You're nowhere near me. 


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 26, 2010, 10:06:59 PM
poop


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 26, 2010, 10:17:06 PM
Can you solder?  Do you know how to follow a wiring diagram?


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 26, 2010, 10:59:28 PM
I have not soldered, but I have been debating since I have been making custom 9005 to H1 Wire Harnesses.  I got a DPDT diagram from someone on HiDP, kinda follow it


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 27, 2010, 09:38:42 AM
I can make a wiring diagram and try and simplify it as much as possible for you, if you want.  If you're making any kind of headlight wiring harnesses and you're not soldering them, I would stop making them immediately.  Using anything other than solder and heat shrink for wiring that's exposed to the elements will fail.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: CrackerTeg on July 27, 2010, 11:40:43 AM
This man knows what he's talking about. At least when it comes to automotive electrical.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 27, 2010, 12:25:19 PM
lol...they aren't actually exposed.  I have it in heat shrink wrap stuff and then that black plastic stuff that are on relay harnesses.

Before you take the time to make the diagram, Califormium (not sure if you know who he is) says he did it for his car and has an easy way, so I will check that out first so you don't do any unneeded extra work.  Thanks though!!!

On a side note, if I get soldering supplies, what do I need and what should I expect to spend?  Not looking for anything fancy.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 27, 2010, 01:05:06 PM
You shouldn't need to spend more than $30 for a soldering iron, solder, and a sponge to clean the tip. 

I'm just wondering though.  If someone has already done this, why didn't you ask them first?  I'm curious about what they did though. 


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 27, 2010, 03:31:24 PM
I didn't know he had done it.  He posted a reply on another forum to the same thread.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 27, 2010, 04:04:08 PM
He just said that he did it, but didn't tell you how?  What a dick!


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 27, 2010, 04:59:56 PM
lol, he told me to call him (since I have his phone number)


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: CrackerTeg on July 28, 2010, 08:52:52 AM
He just said that he did it, but didn't tell you how?  What a dick!
:stupid:


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 28, 2010, 12:42:05 PM
Hey timot, Cali didn't quite have what I was looking for. If offer still stands on how to make that harness, I have a buddy who will make 2 set for he and I. Thanks and lemme know.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 28, 2010, 06:32:14 PM
I'll try to make a wiring diagram this weekend.  What was wrong with what that other guy did. 


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 28, 2010, 06:52:28 PM
He hooked them up straight to the parking lights and turn signals and added a relay so they flash when he turns the blinker on, otherwise, they are always on.

I donno if you saw my other thread, but I wired them normally today using the guide here and they are dimming when I close the door or have it half open.  They are full brightness when door is all the way open (running at 9v compared to 4.5v).  I am sooo lost!!


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 28, 2010, 06:58:33 PM
There is no reason why your door being open should affect their brightness.  What did you wire them to?


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 28, 2010, 07:43:08 PM
they are wired to the brown wire on my headlight turn signals.

I have LEDs installed as my turn signals with resistors to stop hyper flash, could that case it?


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 28, 2010, 08:18:19 PM
You wired it all the way to the turn signals?  That sucks.  You could have tapped the wires inside your car at the DS kick panel.  Did you tap the wires before or after the resistors?


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 28, 2010, 08:19:23 PM
The LEDs and resistors have been installed for about a year...

I can always rewire


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 28, 2010, 08:28:26 PM
But you didn't answer my question.  Did you tap the wires between the resistor and the light, or between the resistor and the battery?


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 28, 2010, 08:37:13 PM
Sorry, misunderstood you.  I need to check, but I think it goes bulb, resistor taps, mirror tap.  I am pretty sure the mirror tap is in between the resistor tap and pink wire.  hope that answers it.

if you want you can IM me at LikitySplit2k6
Thanks for all your help and knowledge!!


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 28, 2010, 09:05:49 PM
What exactly do yo mean when you say resistor tap?  There shouldn't be any sort of "tap" or shunt for a resistor.  I'll try and IM you about this later when I have a few minutes free.  Will you be up later in like the next hour or so?


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 28, 2010, 09:37:38 PM
I'm gonna go play tennis. But I will be on AIM on my phone. I didn't splice my resistors, i used wire taps.

Also, for some reason the dim issue is gone apparently. It like skips when I open and close door, otherwise, problem fixed itself?  Def still interested in making that harness though!!


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 28, 2010, 09:51:54 PM
I'll level with you.  If you have wire taps in your wiring harness for your turn signal bulbs right now, get rid of them and solder the resistor and use heat shrink tubing.  Wire taps are the worst possible connector that you can use.  Those wires are exposed to the elements and will corrode and fail.  Please do it right so you don't damage anything or cause your turn signals to stop working.

As far as the dim issue is concerned, I'm unsure why your LED mirrors would go dim.  My guess is that it has something to do with you using wire taps and the resistor.  I'd have to look at it and see what you've done. 

I can make recommendations on the harness though.  If you follow the write up I made in the beginning of the thread, it will work.  I would strongly recommend starting fresh, getting a soldering iron, and doing it over again.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 29, 2010, 02:35:54 AM
SPDT relay:

30 - the 12v wire for the lights in the hybrid mirrors
87a - the 12v parking light wire
86 - the 12v accessory wire
85 - ground

What is the accessory wire and where can I get this relay?  Thanks.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 29, 2010, 08:05:43 AM
For the wiring, please read the Accord Wiring Guide (http://elitecm.net/forums/index.php?topic=139.0).  That has all the wiring information you'll need since it has info for alarms and remote starts.  As far as getting a relay, you can buy them at places like Auto Zone, but they usually carry shitty Pilot ones.  I would recommend you try to find a Bosch (Tyco) or Siemens relay.  Those are the best design and most reliable. 


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 29, 2010, 08:36:04 AM
Thanks for all your help timot.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 29, 2010, 03:13:30 PM
I picked up a SPST relay to test make a harness. The SPDT didn't gave the 4 numbers you mentioned. Hope I got right one. Rated at 40A. Also picked up a starters soldering kit!


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 29, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Sorry man.  But a SPST will not work unless it's normally closed.  Is yours normally open or normally closed?  You may be better off getting a SPDT though.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 29, 2010, 10:52:17 PM
I have no clue. The SPDT I saw at radio shack had like needles coming out of it with no numbers.

Sorry, super noob here.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 29, 2010, 11:12:04 PM
You may be better off ordering it online or trying to find one locally at a car stereo installer.  I have a bunch that Mike is holding for me.  I'm sure I can spare one or two.  I can guarantee that a SPST will not work though. 


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 29, 2010, 11:16:19 PM
Well I wanted to mock up a harness before I bought all the stuff. Do you know when you might have them and how much?  I'm gonna check some other places locally too. Thanks.


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: timot_one on July 29, 2010, 11:59:05 PM
Here you go.

http://www.amazon.com/IMC-Audio-Relay-Harness-Bosch/dp/B0032JMKZY


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 30, 2010, 12:03:46 AM
thanks for the link.  Since I don't need a 10 pack, which one of these would you recommend? not sure if i need one with the wires already coming out.
http://www.amazon.com/VDC-Automotive-Relay-SPDT-40A/dp/B003I4X1TC/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1280462518&sr=1-9
http://www.amazon.com/Tyco-Relay-SPDT-Formerly-Bosch/dp/B000P61E36/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1280462518&sr=1-3

Again, thanks for the help.  I am on AIM also right now if you wanna talk there and get it over with, haha. :D


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 30, 2010, 12:08:38 AM
another link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Tyco-Bosch-Relay-SPDT-12-Volt-20-30-AMP-Socket-/190421936174?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5608282e

(I am a total ebay guy)


Title: Re: Hybrid Mirrors Flash with Lock/Unlock?
Post by: LFSoccer2k6 on July 30, 2010, 12:29:47 AM
I have a a question.  So following this guide:
SPDT relay:
30 - the 12v wire for the lights in the hybrid mirrors
87a - the 12v parking light wire
86 - the 12v accessory wire
85 - ground

How will the mirrors know when to blink when I turn my blinkers on since nothing is ever connected to the actual turn signals.  Or would the accessory wire be the turn signal wire?  Thanks.


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