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Title: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: implayaz9 on February 10, 2010, 02:30:53 AM
I broke my catalytic converter for being little too low.. it totally cracked according to my mechanic.. now question is

1. where could I find a use oem one?
2. if I cant find a used oem one, which one should I get and will it pass smog in cali?

Hope this is the right place to put this topic


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: Icebox on February 10, 2010, 07:30:43 AM
junkyards
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ebay


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: Mike on February 10, 2010, 07:38:04 AM
Probably don't want to look at this bet here is the link to it new OEM

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/aut ... E+%28L4%29 (http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=ACCORD&catcgry2=2004&catcgry3=4DR+EX&catcgry4=KL5AT&catcgry5=EXHAUST+PIPE+%28L4%29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: timot_one on February 10, 2010, 08:07:36 AM
Magnaflow also makes a bolt on replacement that may be legit in Cali that is a lot less expensive than OEM.  The site that David linked is also a good place to find parts.


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: implayaz9 on February 10, 2010, 10:55:32 AM
I checked car-part but what catagory does the cat come under?


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: slipkord on February 10, 2010, 11:04:34 AM
I didn't see it either so I clicked on http://www.car-part.com/Under/undfrnt.htm# (http://www.car-part.com/Under/undfrnt.htm#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) and hover over cat and said most dont sell used ones.


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: implayaz9 on February 10, 2010, 12:15:28 PM
my mechanic told me no one will sell me a used one as its kinda illegal too in cali.. I am so lost. as to what to do if I dont find an oem one


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: Mike on February 10, 2010, 12:21:10 PM
I'm pretty sure its illegal in most states to sell them.


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: slipkord on February 10, 2010, 12:29:27 PM
Why not just get one from Autozone? I believe their around $90 bucks.


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: Mike on February 10, 2010, 12:43:45 PM
Have to be careful some of the Cats they sell are not direct bolt in, and required welding to fit. Generally on 4 cyl cars the Cat is part of the front exhaust pipe.


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: timot_one on February 10, 2010, 04:58:58 PM
When we did Keith's exhaust, we used a Magnaflow cat and it was a direct bolt on replacement.  I'll try to find the part number when I have time.


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: implayaz9 on February 10, 2010, 09:58:52 PM
yea I heard very few cats are legal in cali.. I was on magnaflow website and it didnt show me anything for 7gen 2.4l..


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: timot_one on February 10, 2010, 10:45:59 PM
What about getting your cat fixed?


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: implayaz9 on February 11, 2010, 01:56:13 AM
can I?.. its damaged from the inside


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: Mike on February 11, 2010, 07:38:33 AM
How did you learn of the damage?


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: implayaz9 on February 11, 2010, 10:43:23 AM
the mechanic showed it to me from the inside of the cat.. I am not quite sure how does a cat look from inside but I did see a cracl in the inisde part of the cat


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: Mike on February 11, 2010, 11:01:08 AM
I'm not sure how Cali inspection works. Is it leaking/making abnormal nosie? Do you have a CEL?


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: implayaz9 on February 11, 2010, 12:42:44 PM
I will let u know. I havent driven the car in couple of days as my motor is blown.. once it up and running I will see how it feels..

when the cat is broklen what happens?.. makes weird noise or more smoke from the exhaust?.. what are the symtoms of a cat being broken?


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: Mike on February 11, 2010, 01:46:32 PM
I had one that the material inside was broken up years ago, and it made a rattling sound. I'm not familiar with what honda uses on k series.


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: DV8mAn on February 11, 2010, 08:11:09 PM
I'm running the Magnaflow direct fit.  it was cheap, but not Cali smog legal.  they may have one that is Cali legal, you'll have to check.


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: implayaz9 on February 11, 2010, 10:40:03 PM
Quote from: "lavalleemike"
I had one that the material inside was broken up years ago, and it made a rattling sound. I'm not familiar with what honda uses on k series.

Yea see I am looking at mine and seems like the material inside of it is broken.. I guess I will see once I start driving hope it effects it..


Title: Re: k24a4 catalytic converter
Post by: AccordProtector on April 27, 2010, 04:39:30 PM
This is a problem for California folks only. In 2009 california passed new legislation concerning catalytic converters. Previous legislation stated, more or less, that a universal cat could be used if it matched engine size and vehicle gross weight, and many options were available. New legislation says that cats must meet oem standards and are mostly car specific. It also stated that exhaust shops cannot straight pipe your car or put a non-oem cat on your vehicle or the are subject to a minimum fine of $5000 and may lose their business license. That being said, all other 49 states can use a universal cat or can straight pipe if desired. I've spoken with both catco and magnaflow and are both working on new applications for all california cars, from what I gather any new car will carry something like a CARB OE number. But all of us in california have 3 options: 1)buy an oem cat from honda directly and spend $500 2)wait for catco or magnaflow to make our specific cat 3) clear out the cat until you can either do 1 or 2. If you have to pass smog immediately to register, you don't really have much of an option but to get a new cat right away.

Having been in a similar situation recently I decided to take matters into my own hands. I recently had a cat clog on me which in turn threw off my timing. Luckily this was after passing smog 2 weeks earlier by only 2PPM. One day my car wouldn't start due to too much back pressure because of the clogged cat, I preceded to jack up the car to get under it and chop off the cat to take a look. The inside of a cat should have some visibility due to the honeycomb but mine was black and completely solid. My solution? I took some rebar and hammered through all the honeycomb to clear it out and more or less make it a straight pipe.  I then welded my "cat" back up. Some don't have the option to weld it themselves but there are many people who weld out of their homes on the side(check craigslist or ask around). Car runs smooth but slightly louder. This will buy one time until you can save up for an expensive cat or a magnaflow. I've given myself almost a 2year window to purchase a new cat. Having been through all of this I am very well informed about catalytic converters in california and other states, this was an ongoing research project for a few weeks so I could get my car fixed and I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. I'll also post links to the legislation and smog laws when I get some free time.


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