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Title: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 06, 2011, 09:08:22 AM
Looking for tips and tricks and pictures of how to run and where to run your amp power line from battery to trunk for a amp. mostly where is it the easiest to run through and what gromets or where to drill and add your own. pictures and how to pop off plastic or remove plastics tips are all great helps for this!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 06, 2011, 11:37:41 AM
I'll let you know right now that you can run power wire from your battery to your trunk without drilling any holes.  I can get pictures in a few weeks, but it's too damn cold outside and I'm too damn busy packing up my shit to move.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrackerTeg on February 06, 2011, 11:42:42 AM
A quick search revealed this thread. (http://elitecm.net/forums/index.php?topic=2342.0) Search is your friend. Try it sometime.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 07, 2011, 08:01:59 PM
@ Cracker Teg- yes it is helpful but  i didnt find it too be. I did search it before posting : P im trying to eliminate the uneeded material and focuz on running through the fire wall and inside the cabin for poping the plastics of to hide a 4 gauge wire. it was helpful but when i went to find where they ran it, i couldnt. thats why im trying to find some more pictures detailing only the power wire how fellow members have done it  :D


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 07, 2011, 08:03:02 PM
@ Timot- i know its too cold! i tried looking  for that gromet and  couldnt find it since i dont know where 100% thanks alot!!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 07, 2011, 08:35:37 PM
It will be a few weeks, but I'll have pictures when I have time.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on February 07, 2011, 10:31:35 PM
The grommet in the fire wall is right about where your clutch pedal would be (to the left of the brake pedal about 3-4 inches up), very noticeable. I ran it from the grommet right behind the panel where the interior fuse box is and under the panels of the door steps straight under the rear seat from the back floor panel.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 07, 2011, 10:45:05 PM
idk if it makes a differnce im in a 05 accord 4 dr. but ill check tomorrow. thanks man!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on February 07, 2011, 11:15:33 PM
idk if it makes a difference im in a 05 accord 4 dr. but ill check tomorrow. thanks man!
No it doesn't, just make sure you run the wire on the driver side since the battery is located on that side! Run your RCA cables and remote wire on the passenger side to reduce interference. I'm NO expert  :-X but my system sounds good and the setup is nice and neat!  ;)

...good luck!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 07, 2011, 11:51:55 PM
Run your remote turn on wire down the same side as your power wire.  Keep all power wires away from your RCA's if you want to prevent induced noise.  I'm no expert either, but I am a licensed MECP installer and have an extensive background in electronics, audio systems, and acoustics.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: gargantula99 on February 08, 2011, 10:00:16 AM
Run your remote turn on wire down the same side as your power wire.  Keep all power wires away from your RCA's if you want to prevent induced noise.  I'm no expert either, but I am a licensed MECP installer and have an extensive background in electronics, audio systems, and acoustics.

Sounds "experty" to me.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrackerTeg on February 08, 2011, 10:37:27 AM
CNY, just like Billy said, its that plastic grommit to the left of the brake pedal. If you have a manual, you can't use that hole. As for the year and model, it doesn't matter. The firewall is the same for all 7th gen Accords. BTW, I'm Z.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 09, 2011, 08:46:31 AM
I do infact have a manual acoord.... fml.... but  any quick pictures would help also. as for RCA's im splicing into the rear speakers with one of the line out converters for my RCA's so interferance shouldnt be an issuse just need the aid on  the power wire thats my only hold up
CNY, just like Billy said, its that plastic grommit to the left of the brake pedal. If you have a manual, you can't use that hole. As for the year and model, it doesn't matter. The firewall is the same for all 7th gen Accords. BTW, I'm Z.
so where should the wire be going  Z  now that you ahve shot down that idea  ???


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: Icebox on February 09, 2011, 09:39:25 AM
i ran mine through a grommet that is located to the right of the gas pedal


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on February 09, 2011, 04:30:30 PM
I do infact have a manual acoord.... fml.... but  any quick pictures would help also. as for RCA's im splicing into the rear speakers with one of the line out converters for my RCA's so interferance shouldnt be an issuse just need the aid on  the power wire thats my only hold up

HMmm...  :lamp: splicing into the rear speaker wires to coneect and RCA cable doesn't sound like a good idea bro... [smh] I would personally run theat RCA from the amp straight to your H/U. If you are running to a stock H/U I would suggest obtaining a converter.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 09, 2011, 06:15:22 PM
im going to tuse the T connectors and thats how you hook rcas up since i ahve a stock h/u. if im not mistaken. its goin to run from pos neg on speaker onto the converter  :)


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 09, 2011, 06:16:00 PM
i really would enjoy some visuals of people with manual accords of where inside  
i know timot will be showing me but just want to see usually better than explain  :porn:


Title: Re: Re: Re: Power wire
Post by: Jeff Likes Bagels on February 09, 2011, 06:37:21 PM
T connectors
Uh oh, you better put on your rape helmet, because Tim is going to get you! :P


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: Mike on February 09, 2011, 09:13:31 PM
T connectors are garbage, and are only going to cause you problems down the road!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 09, 2011, 09:47:01 PM
well there are only so many ways to connect 2 wires haha umm the only other way which i did on my first system was unclip the harness where it connects to the speaker and stuff the wires in there... i mean now with my new job i can have any type of electrical connector their is so i can get the little prongs and make good ending and coonect it liek that but i thought that or splicing or new head unit are my options? please correct me


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on February 09, 2011, 11:00:35 PM
well there are only so many ways to connect 2 wires haha umm the only other way which i did on my first system was unclip the harness where it connects to the speaker and stuff the wires in there... i mean now with my new job i can have any type of electrical connector their is so i can get the little prongs and make good ending and coonect it liek that but i thought that or splicing or new head unit are my options? please correct me


Hey... you should make a profile so we can get to know you and your ride! Im from the NY area, maybe I seen your ride around.

Check out this link  ---> MAKE A PROFILE HERE   (http://elitecm.net/forums/index.php?topic=15.0)


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 10, 2011, 12:33:09 AM
i ran mine through a grommet that is located to the right of the gas pedal

Really?  I'd like to see that.  I wasn't aware there was a grommet on the other side of the gas pedal.  The grommet I used is to the left of the gas pedal, just like Z said.


well there are only so many ways to connect 2 wires

I'm going to put the "asshole" hat on and say there are only 2 ways to connect wires.  The correct way and the wrong way.  There are only 2 correct ways to connect 2 wires.  The MECP approved method is to use a crimping connector using a ratcheting crimper to make sure you use the appropriate amount of pressure on the crimp.  The other way is to solder the wires and use heat shrink tubing.  Soldering is not a MECP approved method because it's effectiveness and reliability depends on the soldering skills of the installer.  Any other way is the WRONG way to connect 2 wires.  I guaranfuckingtee that it will fail and cause problems using t-taps.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrackerTeg on February 10, 2011, 05:07:45 AM
I do infact have a manual acoord.... fml.... but  any quick pictures would help also. as for RCA's im splicing into the rear speakers with one of the line out converters for my RCA's so interferance shouldnt be an issuse just need the aid on  the power wire thats my only hold up
CNY, just like Billy said, its that plastic grommit to the left of the brake pedal. If you have a manual, you can't use that hole. As for the year and model, it doesn't matter. The firewall is the same for all 7th gen Accords. BTW, I'm Z.
so where should the wire be going  Z  now that you ahve shot down that idea  ???

Well, now that I have a solid internet connection and I did happen to take pictures of where I ran my power cable before I left, here you go:
Interior:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/crackerteg/Car%20related/DSCN5259.jpg)
Under hood:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/crackerteg/Car%20related/DSCN5260.jpg)

As for your t-tap idea, Tim already nailed the shit out of that nail on the head. No need for me to come down on it.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 10, 2011, 08:34:33 PM
Z, when you get back, make sure you get a rubber grommet in that hole by your proportioning valve.  Over time, the wire will rub against the edge of the hole and wear away the insulation until something very bad happens and your car is on fire.  When I ran my power wire through, I used a short piece of hose to protect the wire from damage.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: Mike on February 10, 2011, 09:10:02 PM
I learned this the hard way in my younger days.. No fire but, I had a pretty good spark show, and some blown fuses.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrackerTeg on February 11, 2011, 05:49:00 AM
I have every intention of doing just that. Its was a quick job and I didn't have the time to correct it. Good thing I'm going to have plenty of vacation time when I get back.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 12, 2011, 09:06:37 PM
Nice pictures and    that helps alot timot!!! and i wasnt trying to be d bag about saying that was the only way i know how lol cracker ahha but thanks for  that lol sounds good if it ever stops snowing in utica, ny i would love to try and wire my car now haha  thanks alot guys!!  ;D


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 12, 2011, 09:07:34 PM
@timot = you just ran it under the carpet after that ?


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 12, 2011, 10:37:32 PM
From the grommet, I ran it under the carpet over to the driver's side kick panel, then under the kick panel and down under the plastic trim down the driver's side of the car.  I wish I had more time or was going a different route when I move to Ohio, then I'd be able to help you out.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: striktlyaccord on February 13, 2011, 04:07:12 PM
Believe me, I can tell you all about wires tearing open due to contact with metal surfaces and causing problems lol.

Tim, I remember that when we ran my power wire through the firewall, the hole wasn't big enough to add any rubber for protection.  Should I be worried about this, or was it snug enough that you don't expect it to move around and tear open?


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 13, 2011, 05:50:46 PM
You should be fine, but keep an eye on it.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 13, 2011, 10:47:07 PM
Yeah ahaha if anyone decides to drive out to utica ny or syracuse region feel free to stop by ;D


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on February 14, 2011, 08:47:34 AM
Yeah ahaha if anyone decides to drive out to utica ny or syracuse region feel free to stop by ;D
Dayumm you up there!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 14, 2011, 04:58:35 PM
yes yes my acoord  is still in winter mode : ( but finally warm(er) weather  going to be  high 30's!!! was going to do my wire but it rained and i got stuck at school with 4 hours of calc 2 homework...... so  oh well...  maybe lol  :D yes this is my version of "central new york" as in center state not central new york city!!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 15, 2011, 04:13:26 PM
ran my wires today   ;D came out nicely! have it cutting to the center console after coming through grommet looks very nice just need something along the lines of wide stapples to keep it tuck nicely behind pedals! will have pictures later tonight!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: striktlyaccord on February 16, 2011, 01:03:13 AM
^ Staples?! No!!!

You should be fine, but keep an eye on it.

Ok.   :angel:


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on February 16, 2011, 08:18:37 PM
just need something along the lines of wide staples to keep it tuck nicely behind pedals! will have pictures later tonight!
Staples :exclaim: Where would you staple it down to... the metal?  :-X Run it behind the rug :lamp:.

You seriously need to make it out to a meet soon so you can see first hand what other members have done beyond seeing it in pictures.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 21, 2011, 11:33:45 AM
completely re ran my power wire, soldered all conncections only problem is my cluth likes to hit the power wire and not start until i move it... so that will be getting fixed shortly..a swith to turn the bass on and off also running off remote line..... what fuses did u run to for remote line? power wire runs down driverside in all plastic and is nice nice  just that clutch hit is annoying..


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 21, 2011, 03:37:19 PM
You don't need a fuse for the remote turn on wire.  The amperage is very low.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on February 21, 2011, 07:40:17 PM
completely re ran my power wire, soldered all conncections only problem is my cluth likes to hit the power wire and not start until i move it... so that will be getting fixed shortly..a swith to turn the bass on and off also running off remote line..... what fuses did u run to for remote line? power wire runs down driverside in all plastic and is nice nice  just that clutch hit is annoying..

I would definelty re route your power wire in the foot well so your clutch isn't hitting the wire! Use wire ties if anything...

You don't need a fuse for the remote turn on wire.  The amperage is very low.

I agree, just run from the back of the radio to yopur amp... only used so that you can power on the amp once you power on the radio!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 21, 2011, 10:13:04 PM
any fast way of getting to the back of the radio unit to do so? and i have a honda switch so i can turn the system on and off : ) for when people who dont like the extra are riding in the car or when parents ask if there is a system  :D of course they could open the trunk... lol but  not moving forward with any changes until weekend and ahve a chance to work on it in a nice heated garage.. i have had enough fun freezing over the last few days messing with... ill pass on anymore 5 degree days and attempting to play with wires in the cold! :lamp:  what fuse should i run it too in the panel near your feet if anyone has it running there? and with the clutch interferance i believe its just a matter of  getting the wire to rest right either get moved up or pulled down under the carpet to eliminate my problem. its only a irritant andis keeping it from being a very clean and well done job. system is very nice for a small and cheap one!!! only a Kicker 400 :1 and a single 12" TMA .. I know JL knock off but the price was right! FREE!  ;D


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 21, 2011, 10:14:29 PM
I cant wait for summer! me and my buddy (who has a accord coupe 05') will be heading out to a meet!!!! cant wait hopefully a close one sometime!!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrackerTeg on February 22, 2011, 01:49:45 AM
Fuse for the power wire? Definitely not any in the kick panel. This should be a standalone fuse coming off the battery. If I had pics of it, I'd show you were mine was. You need to clarify what it is you want to fuse so we can help out a bit better.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on February 22, 2011, 07:45:00 AM
You need this fuse for your power wire: run power wire from your amp into the other side and then connect to the battery terminal...

Power Wire Fuse (http://cgi.ebay.com/INLINE-FUSE-HOLDER-1-4-GA-POWER-WIRE-PREASSEMBLED-/290458413186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a0aba882) <---Click me


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 22, 2011, 04:51:43 PM
no no no!!! i know that sorry about that  :(  i ment for my remote line i know the power wire is fused : )


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on February 22, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
no no no!!! i know that sorry about that  :(  i ment for my remote line i know the power wire is fused : )

Okay but the remote wire dosen't require a fuse... just run it from your head unit straight to your amp!


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 22, 2011, 10:38:45 PM
I think he's just trying to do it an easier way than pulling his head unit.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 23, 2011, 11:33:38 AM
 :stupid: yes haha its already ran everything is done but i dont think i should be using the SRS fuse....  but i will be also throwing ina  switch  in thos eopen spots to the left of steering wheel : ) stock honda one so she will fit : )


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on February 23, 2011, 01:51:03 PM
I think he's just trying to do it an easier way than pulling his head unit.

It's called laziness....


CNY240 - Just make sure everything is connected correctly dude!


...Im done here on this thread.  :flip:


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 23, 2011, 04:39:36 PM
I ahve no time haha between school work and homework : (  im lucky to have this much done ahha


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrackerTeg on February 24, 2011, 03:26:59 AM
Um, have fun with that. Personally, I wouldn't use the SRS fuse to power the remote. Something about fucking with the airbag circuit just gives me the willys. Find another switched power source for your remote man.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 24, 2011, 09:21:03 AM
That's what I would do.  No fucky with srs.  You may get hurt.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 24, 2011, 09:32:47 AM
so all you guys ran to behind the head unit? for the remot line correct? any forums or DIY to get to it. I ahve taken apart civic dashes not a accord yet but willing to try  at the garage. JUst with the SRS other person has it ran their for a good year no problems but i hear yah with what your saying so that will be getting re located : ) and sorry for the dumb/ obvious question im asking i just cant really afford to waste alot of time with tearing stuff down then not knowing what im doing and poking around : (  but i shall be wanting to run my remote to back of head unit so please enlighten me : )


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: timot_one on February 24, 2011, 09:45:45 AM
There is a wiring diagram of your Accord already on here.  Honestly, your best bet is to connect it to the 12v power on your cigarette lighter/12v power in your center console.  That's probably the easiest thing to access.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrackerTeg on February 24, 2011, 10:28:49 AM
And that's exactly where I ran mine. Great thing about it is, its switched rather than being constant on like Hondas used to be.


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CNY240 on February 24, 2011, 03:04:14 PM
will do that seems easy enough.  but i guess i could also then  run it to  the fuse for that in the kicker panel i guess? and to eliminate the system always getting power thats what the switch i wanna put it will do so i guess as long as i remove the wire from the srs is hould be good? just making sure and  im going to think about splicing into there : )  srs=bad idea radio or car accesory good idea  :) but that would be easy enough to do splicing into the receptical


Title: Re: Power wire
Post by: CrackerTeg on February 24, 2011, 03:07:31 PM
SRS = bad. 12v power accessory in dash or center console = good.


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