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Title: type s clutch
Post by: xodus on May 15, 2009, 08:10:27 PM
so im picking up a type s clutch and flywheel... Do we have to use the type s release bearing? and for the pressure plate mounting hardware and flywheel bolt does anyone have the part numbers for it? or the cost they paid?


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: timot_one on May 15, 2009, 10:46:07 PM
I'm pretty sure you'd need the pressure plate too.  I have a Type S flywheel, and an ACT clutch and pressure plate for the Type S.  Everything else you won't need to replace from what I recall.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: suleman_manji on May 15, 2009, 10:52:55 PM
i remember skip saying something about bolts needing to be replaced with the type s ones (theyre longer). forget which ones though.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: timot_one on May 15, 2009, 11:17:04 PM
I'll let him weigh in on that one, but I believe we only replaced the flywheel, cutch, and pressure plate.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: xodus on May 15, 2009, 11:32:29 PM
well yea i know about the pressure plate.. i have that. the bolts for the flywheel are longer i was just curious about if the release bearing was different... and the hardware for the pressure plate i can just go to acura then and get them?


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: Skippy on May 16, 2009, 08:47:19 AM
If you are planning to use a Type-S clutch, you will need the clutch mounting hardware for the Type-S.  You should use a Type-S release bearing as well.  Pick up an accord pilot bushing as well and have it installed with the new clutch.  I would also recommend the Type-S flywheel mounting bolts since they are a touch longer than the Accord's bolts.  Not that it's going to be a hell of a difference, I just prefer to use all new parts when I'm doing work in that area.  As far as knowing if the release bearing is different, I don't know but you could cross reference the part numbers.  If they are indeed different, use the Type-S part.  All of these parts are conveniently available from your local Acura dealer, but they will most likely not be in stock, so order them a few days before you expect to swap.

What clutch are you going to be using? Stock?


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: fabulous010 on May 18, 2009, 02:35:17 AM
is this on 5spd? or tsx tranny


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: k24cm_5 on September 24, 2009, 11:16:34 PM
well i just bought a exedy stage 1 clutch with the exedy rsx-s 8.5 flywheel but i was wondering if i should use the rsx longer bolts better


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: Skippy on September 24, 2009, 11:19:51 PM
Your answer is located two posts up, please read before posting.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: sgrab on June 07, 2010, 08:52:27 PM
Hey guys im looking into buying a new clutch and flywheel. I have 130k on my 03 and I just want to have everything I need for when the clutch goes. But my question is what type of flywheel I should use. Act lists two the 11.4 streetlite and the 8.4 prolite and exedy has one but does not give a specific weight. Which one would you guys suggest for DD and some track time? Plus im also planning on going with the ACT Heavy Duty pressure plate and modified disc for the rsx-s. Thats probably the best route right?


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: timot_one on June 07, 2010, 09:41:12 PM
I wouldn't do that for a few reasons.  The lightweight flywheels you mentioned are going to be too light for a DD.  I'd consider a different clutch also.  I've read about a lot of problems with the ACT heavy duty pressure plates and the geometry being off, causing problems with clutch master cylinders.  I've already replaced mine 3 times with my ACT clutch.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: sgrab on June 07, 2010, 11:31:00 PM
So what would you suggest? and why would the lightweight flywheels even the 11.4 lb flywheel be to light? Im not arguing just trying to understand. Btw thank you for your input.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: timot_one on June 08, 2010, 06:51:16 AM
I've heard that the competition clutches are pretty good, but still have no experience with them.  I am only telling you what I've experienced with my ACT clutch.  With a flywheel that's too light, you'll have to rev higher to engage the clutch without stalling.  Of course, you want to reduce weight, but if you reduce too much weight, you'll have a hard time starting from a stop.  If you want a lighter flywheel, go with a RSX Type S flywheel.  It's 14 lbs, compared to the 22.5 lbs of the stock K24 flywheel.  It's light enough to make a difference, but not too light to cause problems.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: Skippy on June 08, 2010, 07:42:17 AM
Tim is correct.  Having a light flywheel is great, but having one that is too light causes as much grief as having one that is too heavy..it impacts daily driving.  Having a lighter flywheel will make your clutch more touchy when it comes to 1st gear starts..you're going to get tired of babying the clutch as much as you will need to.  The RSX-S OE flywheel is 14.5lbs which will be significantly lighter than your 20.5lb stock flywheel.  This flywheel (being an OE replacement) will offer you the best compromise in stock reliability and performance.  It's also easier on the wallet.  As you drop the pounds, you're going to rapidly increase in price since the materials change and the manufacturing process gets more in-depth.  I personally recommend the Type-S flywheel since I use it (and because I work for an Acura dealer).  When it comes to reliability, 9-times out of 10, OE trumps aftermarket.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: sgrab on June 09, 2010, 02:32:31 PM
Thank you both very much for your input, that definitly just saved me money and alot of aggravation as for the flywheel. Besides competiton cluches can you guys recommend a good clutch kit? I replaced clutches before but only with OEM components so aftermarket clutches are kind of a new area for me. Thanks


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: Skippy on June 09, 2010, 03:23:12 PM
Timmy and I are at odds with the ACT clutch kits.  We both have the same kit (AR1-HDSS), but we have opposite opinions of the kit.  My kit has operated flawlessly throughout its life, while Timmy has had numerous clutch master cylinder failures.  As a general rule, clutch master cylinders will make noise after a while (especially if you live in temperature-extreme regions of the country), but they will very rarely fail.  You will want to stick with a full-faced organic sprung clutch.  Anything over stage 1 should be out of the question unless you are planning a build in the near future.  My personal recommendation would be a clutchmasters FX200 since it features a full faced carbon/kevlar backing material (better heat resistance / longer life), it's sprung (easy on the tranny), and it's got a near-stock pedal feel.  I have not used the clutch myself, but would consider running one if I had the choice.  I've previously recommended the use of the FX300 for Timmy's build, but he did not wish to change clutches when I put his motor in.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: timot_one on June 09, 2010, 04:59:32 PM
The two clutches I have been considering lately are the Clutchmasters FX300 clutch and the Competition Clutch 2100 Stage 2 clutch.  Now, I am putting down more power, so that's the reason for the higher stages.  I'm sure if you went with a lower stage with either brand, you should be fine.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: sgrab on June 09, 2010, 06:36:09 PM
Ok well im only planning on sticking to the boltons for now. Its gonna be awhile before I do a full build so I want something that is going close to stock but will hold up. Ive had my eye on the ACT kit but I really don't want to break anything by using it so I'll check out the other brands you guys have suggested. Thanks guys


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: sgrab on June 09, 2010, 06:47:25 PM
Hey skip i just checked out the fx200. It says that its a stage 2 kit, but you said not to go for anything over a stage 1. just wondering if I should stick to the fx100 or if I'll be good with the fx200?


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: Skippy on June 09, 2010, 08:15:14 PM
I understand the FX200 kit is a stage 2 and I should have clarified that in my notes earlier, I apologize.  I would recommend that kit specifically even though it is a stage II because of the kevlar/organic backing material.


Title: Re: type s clutch
Post by: sgrab on June 09, 2010, 09:13:37 PM
haha no problem thanks guys


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