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Title: Gram lights...
Post by: exelr8 on March 12, 2009, 12:35:36 AM
Well, The more I see the TL type S wheels the more i want a set. But, at the same time i love the gram lights(when they are on the car). thus bringing me to my question, What do you guys think? Keep the Gram Lights or sell them to buy a set of TL Type S Wheels with tires? Yall's opinion is greatly valued, so please tell me what you think.

Thanks guys


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: MyNameIsThien on March 12, 2009, 12:44:09 AM
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/7thGenVillain/e1c46594.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/7thGenVillain/e8312bae.jpg)

Why not have both. I do.  ;)


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: exelr8 on March 12, 2009, 12:45:31 AM
because i am broke haha i can have either or but with either stup up your car looks strait up sexy


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: Jellynuts on March 12, 2009, 01:57:50 AM
...I am no fun in advice, and I need to learn how to follow my own, but I think your car looks great the way it is!  The grass is always greener on the other side, though on the TL side, it probably actually is lol.  But, unless you don't lose money on this, I wouldn't do it at this time.

PS. I love your signature quote!


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: timot_one on March 12, 2009, 02:02:56 AM
TL's are heavier than the Gram Lights.  Maybe that tidbit of information may help your decision.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: ibcnunv on March 12, 2009, 06:34:31 AM
Quote from: "Jellynuts"
The grass is always greener on the other side...

so true!!!


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2009, 07:20:54 AM
keep the gram lights and lower the car some more, IMO.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: timot_one on March 12, 2009, 10:20:15 AM
He would have to roll the fenders because he is already rubbing at his current ride height.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: Blackhawk on March 12, 2009, 10:23:53 AM
If the Gramlights are indeed +22 offset, get rid of them on Acurazine and get the TLs.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: driveaccord on March 12, 2009, 10:36:38 AM
based off thien's post with pics....i like the tl-s wheels better


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: exelr8 on March 12, 2009, 01:45:07 PM
Thanks everyone for your input... Although weight is not a big factor it still means a little bit but my car is not going to be st up for racing or handling right now, a few years down the road that may be a concept.

Tomorrow before i leave for savannah  i and going to measure the wheels to et the offset of them

JT, How much do gram lights with tires go for on acurazine?


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: Blackhawk on March 12, 2009, 05:12:46 PM
Quote from: "exelr8"
JT, How much do gram lights with tires go for on acurazine?

Not sure because I don't really post there. I just recommended them because anything in the 20s is a popular offset for Acura TLs...

-JT


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: clapton924 on March 12, 2009, 07:04:56 PM
The TL-S rims go pretty quick on AZ. I would expect to pay between $500-$800 for a set.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: suleman_manji on March 12, 2009, 07:05:32 PM
Quote from: "MyNameIsThien"
Why not have both. I do.  ;)



lmao.


IMO get the TL's... the gram lights aren't the right spec for your car (well they are but offset is too low)


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: exelr8 on March 12, 2009, 09:20:38 PM
thanks, I am going to put them up on acurazine when i get home... what do you guys think a fair price would be for them?


If i got a set of TL wheels would the 245/45/17 still be an ok tire size? it is really meaty but is the sidewall too big?


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: clapton924 on March 12, 2009, 10:03:27 PM
Quote from: "exelr8"
thanks, I am going to put them up on acurazine when i get home... what do you guys think a fair price would be for them?


If i got a set of TL wheels would the 245/45/17 still be an ok tire size? it is really meaty but is the sidewall too big?

For the TL-S I would expect to pay about $500-$600 for just the rims. I saw a set today sell for $750 with tires. After just having a BAD experience with buying used tires....I would strongly recommend against buying used tires....too many funny things happen from nails to differences in tread wear.

235/45 or 245/45 would be fine. 245's will have slightly bigger side wall but is same overall wheel diameter as stock. 235's throw you off by a tiny bit...speedometer is about 1mph slow.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: suleman_manji on March 12, 2009, 10:12:55 PM
You know, I've actually noticed that with my 235/35/18's my speedometer is PERFECT.


There's this street I ride on almost everyday and it has a screen that says how fast you're going and when I'm exactly at 40MPH on my speedo the little screen says exactly that!


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: timot_one on March 12, 2009, 11:06:07 PM
I have 245/45/17's on my TL wheels.  As far as the speedo issue, that's long gone now.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: exelr8 on March 12, 2009, 11:37:04 PM
I reckon i will keep the tires i just bought since htey have less than 100 miles on them. What is a fair asking price for the gram lights? I got a sweet deal on them from a friend. I will be completely honest, I do not know what a used set of gram lights is worth


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: jobata23 on March 13, 2009, 03:18:55 AM
i've been trying to find me some awesome deal on tl-s wheels, but no luck. anyways your car will look a lot better w/ the tls wheel, and as far as pricing your gramlights, as long they are in good condition, do research and look how much your wheels are going for, then figure it out from that.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: wtcii on March 13, 2009, 08:04:24 AM
TL-S wheels!


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: Blackhawk on March 13, 2009, 11:40:18 AM
Stock Accord Size: 215/50/17 = 25.5"  

TL Size: 235/45/17 = 24.4"  

Uber TL Size: 245/45/17 = 25.6"

Basically you rev a little less with the 245 size but your acceleration suffers by a very small margin. With the 235 you get marginally better acceleration but marginally more revs per mile. It's really a call about your personal driving preferences.

My new 19s are 235/35/19 at 25.5" exactly like stock  :mrgreen:


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: exelr8 on March 13, 2009, 11:49:52 AM
What about the lx wheels the 16x6.5? my factory tires are 205/60-16


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: clapton924 on March 13, 2009, 12:57:43 PM
Quote from: "exelr8"
What about the lx wheels the 16x6.5? my factory tires are 205/60-16

205/60/16 = 25.68 overall diameter

235/45/17 = 25.32 overall diameter

245/45/17 = 25.68 overall diameter

With the 235 your speedometer will be technically 1.4% off....or at 60mph on your speedometer is actually 60.8mhp nothing to lose sleep over.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: exelr8 on March 13, 2009, 01:40:04 PM
ahhh... thanks


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: suleman_manji on March 13, 2009, 01:48:02 PM
lmao compared to my oem 205/65/15 my current set-up(235/45/18) reads 62mph when the speedo shows 60 haha.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: timot_one on March 13, 2009, 01:49:52 PM
Hate to say it guys, but every manufacturer and tire style is a little different.  You're not comparing apples to apples here.  In addition to that, no speedo is 100% balls on accurate.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: Blackhawk on March 13, 2009, 02:03:32 PM
Quote from: "suleman_manji"
lmao compared to my oem 205/65/15 my current set-up(235/45/18) reads 62mph when the speedo shows 60 haha.

HOLY TALL TIRE!!!


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: suleman_manji on March 13, 2009, 02:31:58 PM
Tim: Yeah the speedo isn't accurate at all. Since I proved it to myself with my 18's and that speed camera lol.


I can't remember if it's 35 or 45.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: suleman_manji on March 13, 2009, 02:34:55 PM
Confirmed through context clues that it is a 45series tire.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: Sworkhard on March 17, 2009, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: "suleman_manji"
You know, I've actually noticed that with my 235/35/18's my speedometer is PERFECT.


There's this street I ride on almost everyday and it has a screen that says how fast you're going and when I'm exactly at 40MPH on my speedo the little screen says exactly that!

I find that interesting because on my car, 235/40/18 is still a tiny bit smaller (<1%) than the oem 205 60r16's that were perfect (checked via gps).


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: Blackhawk on March 26, 2009, 08:49:18 AM
Any luck selling these yet, Big Mike?


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: exelr8 on March 26, 2009, 10:31:11 PM
No still no luck... I am trying to decide whether or not i want to put them on import atlants and pay the 10 bucks or not lol


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: Blackhawk on March 27, 2009, 08:20:42 AM
If all else fails and you DO decide to keep these, you might just be able to run narrower tires that sit stretched on the rim and get away with it. There is a new guy on here named Chad (aprevo) that has mastered these type setups. You can always PM him about it. Make sure to specify the complete wheel specs.


Title: Re: Gram lights...
Post by: exelr8 on March 27, 2009, 11:23:00 AM
Thanks JT, When i get my fender fixed fuzzy is going to roll my fenders for me as well...


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