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Thought you guys would be interested in seeing this if you haven't already.
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I have seen that but, I would still use legend calipers because if you want to switch back to stock you can't with the CRV method.

Interesting.

How long do you think it will be until brake manufacturers stop making the 95 Legend rotors and pads? Just wondering, because that's 15 years ago. You'd think these companies would stop at one point or another. This does look like a viable alternative though, except for what Mike said.

Well, 15 years isn't a long time when you think about it.  Our society hasn't made things that disposable yet.  You'd be surprised how many cars use the same rotors and pads.  I would doubt you'd be unable to find remanufactured calipers.  I think that OP of that thread or the parts store was just too fucking lazy to try and find them.

Someone add this who is a member over there:

GS calipers are readily available as remanufactured units...Rock auto is a great source for them http://www.rockauto.com  (best prices & $12 core charge!  when I bought mine)
The GS calipers can also be used with the larger rotors like the Accord Coupe or TSX.  But the brackets will need to match the rotors, autozone had Coupe brackets.
Set up example: GS calipers & Pads, Coupe Brackets & Rotors

Not necessarily. The only modification he mad to the stock Accord setup was enlarge the mounting holes slightly. The machining was done on the CR-V mounting brackets. The plus to running the CR-V calipers is that you don't have to flip the calipers like you would the Legend calipers.

So that part where you have to drill out the mounting tabs wouldn't effect anything Z? Hmmmmmmm it seems to me that would have some problems when trying to go back to accord equipment.


This swap has been done on a lot of cars... Accords are only the beginning of the list companies are not going to stop producing parts if they are still selling them.

Mike, I think that the brackets are drilled at the where they meet/connect to the calipers, and also the brackets are machined...I don't think he drilled the actual mounts on the the wheel hub.  

Another plus is the caliper pistons look like they are the same size compared to the GS which has the leading piston that is smaller (when installed on the GS), and when it is turned around to accomodate the accord, the leading piston is the larger one...this has been debated before, but I haven't noticed any eneven wearing or negative affects of having the larger piston leading.

**EDIT** I stand corrected, I just looked at the thread again, and he is drilling the mounts on the hub...MIKE is right!

Considering the difference between the two, the Legend calipers are the better alternative.  Here's why.  With the CR-V calipers, you have to machine the brackets and enlarge the mounting holes.  While most people have a drill and can buy a larger drill bit to enlarge the holes, I only know one person on here that has the machining tools to machine the brackets.  That means you're going to be paying some machine shop to machine the brackets for you.  With the Legend calipers, you swap the sides.  No machining, no drilling, no extra cost.  Which do you think is going to be less of a pain in the ass?

True but like Mark said, there's been debate over the uneven piston size on the Legend calipers being flipped the way everyone that has used them has done. Frankly, if I'm upgrading to whichever setup, I really have no intention of reverting to the crappy stock setup. Now, if I go to an aftermarket setup, then I most certainly wouldn't go to that trouble since I could still make money on the aftermarket setup and revert to stock.

The debate about flipping the calipers is fucking stupid. Anyone who has installed them will tell you that they are issue free, and the stopping power is a million times better than stock. Just admit you were wrong and we can all forget it ever happened. :)

Fuck that. How's the bleeding of the calipers working out for ya?

Pretty easily you just put an oil pan under them and let it squirt in the pan.

That argument some of those people have is retarded.  I'm not sure why they think it's bad, but I've had no ill effects with the calipers the way they are.  Also, my reasoning is based on what you have to do to get them to fit.  I'm not one of those people that's concerned with reverting things back to stock (obviously).

Neither am I. All my previous cars were not stock when I sold them. I understand there's no ill effects from doing the Legend caliper swap but I like making things difficult and using stuff not many others have used. Besides, the CR-V's caliper pistons are equal sized. that's a plus for me.

Taking cost into account I'd go with the legends. My whole set up was undr $300 including having Paul rebuild them.

I too think its retarded, as I haven't noticed anything bad, only +'s...and if its bothersome that they are on backwards, then put them on correctly and just use a vaccuum pump to bleed them upside down...

Fucking naysayers! Consider this done when I come back from the sandbox and I'll probably get it done for less than what he paid. Equal sized pistons FTMFW!

Naysayer my ass! Equal sized pistons will do nothing for you! Go head and do it I could care less. What is there to be a naysayer about its already been done. There is 0 benefit in this upgrade over the legend GS calipers. 0, nada, zip, zilch.

Mike, I didn't bring your ass into this so I'd appreciate it if you refrained from doing so.
O rly? Tell that to Honda when they designed the calipers for the NSX which is another bolt on upgrade but much, MUCH more expensive. Oh yeah! They say NSX on them so it makes them that much moar better.

I was thinking about getting the nsx ones soon because the "NSX" makes them baller status.

You ain't a baller unless something on your car says NSX.

Whether the braking will be better or worse isn't really a reason why one swap is better than the other.  My guess is that the performance will either be the same, or the difference will not be noticeable.  My point will continue to be that the CR-V swap is not as practical as the Legend GS swap.  If you want to do things the hard way, go ahead.  I'm not trying to say this is a bad idea, but you should consider all the options and difficulties because this is not a "bolt on" brake swap.  It's good to know that this is an option though.  I wonder if you could make things less difficult by trying the Legend GS brackets with the CR-V calipers?

I didn't think of that combo. Looks like I'm going to be experimenting with brakes when I return from overseas. Unless someone beats me to it.

As for me doing things more difficult, that's the way tuning started isn't it? Outside the box thinking until it became mainstream. Its getting more difficult to be different in this scene because a lot of things have already been done or its so fucking ridiculous that its impractical as hell and just plain stupid i.e. Blitz body kits on Cavaliers.

attaway to use your noggin!  that might be an option  

I still think outside the box.