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I'm not sure if this is an issue or not as the simptoms don't really fall in line with what i've heard about failing transmissions. It seems like when the car shifts from first to second under more the half throttle it shifts rough. It feels almost like when you shift a manual, and let off the clutch super fast after the shift, like its trying to spin the tires. There is no slipping at all in fact if anything its the total oppsite. Any ideas?

When was the last time you changed your tranny fluid???

5 or 6 weeks ago but, the used car dealer I bought the car from did it, could this be caused by them not using the honda fluid?

That, or not doing it properly.

I'm going to have it changed at a dealer tomorrow. If that doesn't fix it it's getting traded in for a v6 6 speed.

I seriously doubt they used Honda ZF-1 (Honda's ATF) and yes there is a BIG difference between it and Dextron ATF which is more common, the Honda ATF has a high silicone content and dextron is NOT compatible with it and the seals in the tranny will be destroyed by it causing rough/late shifting. So I would go to that used car dealer and ask them to produce the recipt where they purchased to correct fluid, if they can not, they owe you a transmission......

Do you think it is definatly gone our could having it changed save it. It's only been maybe 2k miles and I doubt it's even that? The car is under warranty for 2 more years but, I really don't want to deal with it.

The Dextron is now mixed with the fluid, a change only dumps about 3 qts out, there is almost 6qts in there in total, have them change it at least twice then add a bottle of lube gaurd in, it is a friction modifier that will help convert the rest of the Dextron to something close to ZF1.

Is this lube gaurd available to the consumer I really don't feel like paying the dealer 300 to change the fluid 3 times. If this needs to be done i'll buy the fluid and do it my self.

shoot i had a similar problem also....i thought it was the cold weather....

Yeah this is absolute horriable news. I'm going to have the dealrs "Transmission service" done, and see if I can get my hands on some of this lube guard.

Napa normally has it. But here is a online source. You want the stuff in the black bottle. Also do not let them flush the tranny, that will only make things worse, just have the fluid changed, then add the reccomended amount for 4 qts, this is not the best solution, but is more cost effective than rebuilding the trans.

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Update:  Lost third gear this morning. I will be calling the warranty company today to confirm where I can bring the car. My plan is to bring it to my local dealer. If the warranty company does not allow this than I will make sure who ever rebuilds the tranny uses the proper Honda fluid.

Sorry this had to happen to you, but it proves that you an only use Honda ATF in these trannies, I would personally goto the place that changed your fluid a serve them with a bill for your time, rental car, towing and anything the warrenty does not cover for thier incompitence.....

That is my plan i'm going to try and get the dealer I bought it from to admit sending me there via email also. That way I can go back after them.

Sorry to hear about the issues Mike.  Hopefully you can either get this taken care of soon or use it to get yourself in a V6 6MT.

Ill get this fixed first and then start the hunt. I bought the extended warranty fearing exactly this issue.

The car is currently at a local transmission shop. Turns out the 3rd gear clutch pack is damaged, and as Paul said the transmission is in need of a rebuilt. Majestic Honda actually told me that they are 95 percent certain that the proper fluid was used in the transmission, and it just failed.

Well boy here is the update. The rebuild is going to be in the neighborhood of $3600. $1600 of this is going to come out of my pocket. Aftermarket warranties suck!!!! The warranty company would only pay for a junk yard transmission to be swapped in, so I decided to take on the extra cost and have the current one re built, I just took into consideration if i'm going to keep the car, I may as well do it the right way or I will just end up doing it again.

damn, what a weak ass warranty..  sorry this happened to you bro.  lets hope they rebuild it so it'll last forever this time..

sorry to hear Your problem.
How many miles was on the tranny? Sounds like a perfect time to swap to a 6 MT.

Holy 114 day old topic batman. There were about 70k miles, and if you read through the entire thread you will see that the auto tranny was rebuilt.

oh, I missed the fact that this was j series discussion and the date and it was that old. thanks for pointing that out. I was wondering why it was in the K series forum but I guess I was in the wrong forum.

It's all good man...

You can't front, it was a good read.  

Well anyway since it's back from the dead. How is your new tranny working for you? I do not know what your intentions are with this car but did you consider this? http://www.importperformancetrans.com/hondaauto.shtml

For the cost of the performance trans, it'd make more sense to go with a 6 speed swap, or a new car altogether. $3500 is a bit steep if you ask me. Also, I don't think they correct the issues the autos have. I could be wrong though.

My car has been very good since the rebuild. The long term goal is to have Paul do a six speed swap for me. It may be a few years down the road though as right now i'm in the process of looking to buy a house

I've gotta say +1 to that.  In the end, you'll still have an AT after you blew $3500 plus labor.  You could do an AT to 6MT swap (with an LSD) for the same amount if not less money than that AT.

That is the ultimate plan, 6 speed followed by, well he'll proabably be up to the J53 by the time I have the money the way Paul innovates who knows.

Wouldn't surprise me if he did get to J53.

I don't know how much that swap is going for but I would imagine that its close to $1200 for just the transmission. Maybe cheaper if he bought all the swap parts from the same place.

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Well yeah, I know that is a stiff price to pay But for $3600, 1600 he pulled out of pocket, I think he should have gone the performance auto trans route but that's just me. I'm sure you were shaking your head when you read that I did a 5mt to 5at. That's just me and I was not going to trade it in for an auto just to save on the aggravation of the swap.

I just read it through and I didn't understand what I wrote.

J53? Honda doesn't have that big of an engine.

Read Mike's post thoroughly. Then re-read it.

I needed my car back asap when I had this done or I would have had the 6 speed done. Never mind that fact that the warranty company wouldn't have paid a bit of the cost of the performance transmission or the swap to 6 speed. I think that I should be all set for a bit now, and if I end up modding the car past bolt on's the tranny will be the first thing to get done.