Title: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: Jellynuts on December 21, 2009, 03:38:22 AM
Hey all,
So, having driven the TSX for nearly 7 months (wow! it's been a long time), I often find myself longing for my old Accord back.
It's the DBW! Sometimes, I don't mind it, but other times, it bugs me to no end. I've read on many a forum that the DBW on the S2000 and some German vehicles are pretty accurate to the feel of a cable throttle, but for some reason, Acura just did not do that for the 1gen TSX, nor do they have any intention of doing so. Hondata hasn't pursued any solution to this due to liability issues. I haven't test driven the 2nd gen TSX to see if the DBW is any better, but, the 2G is ugly as ass anyway.
SO! My question is, is it possible to convert to a mechanical throttle? The last post here suggests it is, by using an 03-05 Accord TB and the dual ECU K-Pro:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=52269
I've tried pursuing this question at tsxclub.com (http://tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-engine/40338-converting-mechanical-throttle-cable.html (http://tsxclub.net)), but no one has tried this, and one folk there is absolutely not helpful, and I'm tired of him whoring my thread.
Then I was reminded of the mechanical expertise here at elite (yes, shameless flattery after not coming onto this forum for so long), and thought I could find some more direct help from you folk.
Anyway, any insight would be excruciatingly appreciated.
A year ago, you helped me with my Accord; now I beg you to help me in my struggle against the DBW. I regret I am unable to present my request in to you in person, but I live in Canada... This is our most desperate hour... Help me Obi Wan Keno--- Help me EliteCM... You're my only hope.
So, having driven the TSX for nearly 7 months (wow! it's been a long time), I often find myself longing for my old Accord back.
It's the DBW! Sometimes, I don't mind it, but other times, it bugs me to no end. I've read on many a forum that the DBW on the S2000 and some German vehicles are pretty accurate to the feel of a cable throttle, but for some reason, Acura just did not do that for the 1gen TSX, nor do they have any intention of doing so. Hondata hasn't pursued any solution to this due to liability issues. I haven't test driven the 2nd gen TSX to see if the DBW is any better, but, the 2G is ugly as ass anyway.
SO! My question is, is it possible to convert to a mechanical throttle? The last post here suggests it is, by using an 03-05 Accord TB and the dual ECU K-Pro:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=52269
I've tried pursuing this question at tsxclub.com (http://tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-engine/40338-converting-mechanical-throttle-cable.html (http://tsxclub.net)), but no one has tried this, and one folk there is absolutely not helpful, and I'm tired of him whoring my thread.
Then I was reminded of the mechanical expertise here at elite (yes, shameless flattery after not coming onto this forum for so long), and thought I could find some more direct help from you folk.
Anyway, any insight would be excruciatingly appreciated.
A year ago, you helped me with my Accord; now I beg you to help me in my struggle against the DBW. I regret I am unable to present my request in to you in person, but I live in Canada... This is our most desperate hour... Help me Obi Wan Keno--- Help me EliteCM... You're my only hope.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: CrackerTeg on December 21, 2009, 12:22:32 PM
From what you've already stated, Blinx and Paul have done that swap on Blinx's 7.5 CM. I don't know how much is involved but they did it. There's also talks on v6p about the Buddy Club e-throttle booster (http://v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=199451). I haven't really perused through that thread since I have a cable throttle. Hopefully some of what I said helps steer you in the direction you want to go.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: Icebox on December 21, 2009, 02:07:57 PM
^its an easy swap for the tb but you would need kpro to control it.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: timot_one on December 22, 2009, 03:17:50 AM
Read this also. (http://www.hondata.com/tuning_k24a2_tsx_engine.html)
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: Jellynuts on December 23, 2009, 01:43:09 AM
Alright, thanks for those leads. I'll check them out after Christmas.
Merry Christmas everyone :)
Merry Christmas everyone :)
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: Jellynuts on December 23, 2009, 02:13:34 AM
Quote from: "timot_one"
Read this also. ([url]http://www.hondata.com/tuning_k24a2_tsx_engine.html[/url])
Dang, I've read that numerous times before, but because I'm not so mechanically inclined, and I didn't know what I was looking for before, only now did it make sense to me. Thanks for redirecting that link to me Timmy. It answers a lot.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: CrackerTeg on December 23, 2009, 02:03:30 PM
Tim is going to have your ass for calling him Timmy.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: thisaznboi88 on December 23, 2009, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
Tim is going to have your ass for calling him Timmy.
HIT the DECK ICBM BAN missile heading your way.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: timot_one on December 23, 2009, 10:21:11 PM
Just for the record, there's only one person allowed to call me that and none of you fuckers are that person.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: CrackerTeg on December 23, 2009, 11:53:24 PM
I know that Tim. I was just informing numbnuts of his mistake.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: timot_one on December 24, 2009, 08:51:21 AM
It wasn't intended for you. It was intended for everyone else that thinks it's okay to call me that.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: CrackerTeg on December 25, 2009, 11:04:18 AM
I know dude. Just making it known.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: Jellynuts on December 26, 2009, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
I know that Tim. I was just informing numbnuts of his mistake.
Numbnuts eh?
Merry Christmas to you too. If TIM wants an apology from me, he can ask for it himself; ban me if you feel that warrants it. I don't know the rules to this forum.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: timot_one on December 26, 2009, 08:14:51 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't take this so seriously man. I'm not looking for an apology, just don't call me that. It pisses me off, so we can leave it at that and move on.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: CrackerTeg on December 27, 2009, 11:24:29 AM
Quote from: "Jellynuts"
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
I know that Tim. I was just informing numbnuts of his mistake.
Numbnuts eh?
Merry Christmas to you too. If TIM wants an apology from me, he can ask for it himself; ban me if you feel that warrants it. I don't know the rules to this forum.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: Jellynuts on January 10, 2010, 03:33:03 AM
Alright, thanks for clearing that up.
My apologies too for getting heated. I do have a tendency of getting overly defensive.
FWIW, I'm in a phase where I can tolerate the DBW. It goes in cycles, but since I don't want to overspend on such a project, I think I'll just grab some pulley's and call it a day.
My apologies too for getting heated. I do have a tendency of getting overly defensive.
FWIW, I'm in a phase where I can tolerate the DBW. It goes in cycles, but since I don't want to overspend on such a project, I think I'll just grab some pulley's and call it a day.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: CrackerTeg on January 10, 2010, 08:30:47 AM
No worries man. Shit happens.
I just realized I already posted about the Buddy Club throttle booster. Jeezus my mind is all kinds of fucked.
I just realized I already posted about the Buddy Club throttle booster. Jeezus my mind is all kinds of fucked.
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: NVA-AV6 on January 10, 2010, 09:27:09 AM
What about Timbo 
Title: Re: DBW -> Mechanical Throttle/Cable Conversion
Post by: timot_one on January 10, 2010, 09:44:45 AM
Yeah, that's cool. Anyway, let's try to keep this on topic.