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Check it out! It's only available for the 07-08 TL & Type S as of now, but hopefully at some point will be available for us! This is huge.

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=876146 (http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=876146)
http://www.hondata.com/flashpro_07-08_tl.html (http://www.hondata.com/flashpro_07-08_tl.html)

Saw that on both forums.  Too bad all this work went into that ECU when the market is so much bigger in the 03-07 Accord and 04-06 TL.  Here's to hoping...

That ECU is made by Denso, not Motorola like ours :mad6:

Now the first time this was going to happen I looked at converting to the newer ECU and it looked very possible. I am now armed with the pinouts for the 08 TL, 05 TL and 05 AV6. Will be working on conversion harnesses.

Thanks, Paul.  I think you are going to have to be the person to get the harnesses made for all of us.  Not too much interest of other people to do it over on Azine..

I saw this on Hondata's site yesterday.  Pretty interesting that Hondata is now showing some support for the J now.

"Some" is the key word...

Oh well, there's hope with retrofitting the 07-08 ECU. 

At guys are screwed yet again, the 07-08 AT has 4 shift control solinoids vs the 3 the 7th gen and 3rd gen TL have. To make matters worse you can't just throw the newer AT in , the engine bell housing pattern is very different so you would also need the 07-08 engine to go with it.

But MT looks pretty damn doable now that I have looked at the diagrams and researched the ther subsystems.

Blah lol darn it no accord one ..in the meantime I'm doin the cams and AEM FIC n getting Dyno tuned in spring  ;D

Hopefully there may be something for the J series Accords in the future. I know there's another K series option on the horizon. Hondata also dropped the prices on k poo.

Your car is still gonna be slow :flip: lulz.

im still waiting for my run lol .. TALK TALK TALK no action..my tranny is being rebuilt bigger and better and my cams and tune . GET SOME lol  ;)

Can I run one of you guys?  I only have a k24, so hopefully I'll be able to hang with the j30.  :'(

lol we should all meet up and have fun ACCORD runs that be awesome lol

I'll be at Import Alliance in, KY this summer.  We can run there if you want.  I may have a couple more upgrades between now and then.  Hopefully I can keep up.  My sedan is kind of heavy.

idk if ill be at import alliance but will see lol.. yea hopefully all my mods will be done by then i have a sedan to no worries lol

Wanna race?

That's SO baited.

Keep it on topic!

Sorry crackerteg.. if u wanna run hit me up will set something up

It's Z and I'm also busting Tim's balls.

Getting an auto tranny rebuilt? It's still an auto :flip:, and I have money on Tim :flip:

How effective is the AEM FIC on a stock J ? I've been looking for awhile. I've seen 10hp to 50hp. 50 is a lie I know that

I bet my money on the Sedan. In for the YouTube race video

My trannys  going so obviously yea I'm gonna rebuild it and not pay a dime god I love it lol !!  ;)  pretty sure u won't even be around when me n Tim race lol

You sure you want to do this?  You know I'm baiting you, right?

Anyway, we should get back on topic.  I'd love to hear some results when someone does this on their Accord.  I'm really looking forward to seeing a good tuning solution for the J.

Lol I could care less if u baiting me lol idc if ur boosted turbo supercharge nos whatever else u got ill still run it heads up I'm not shook lol . And IF I lose cuz it's a big if when I come out in spring with all my new goodies after the race is give u a high five and say job well done lol  ;)

Right on.  ;)

I digress spring time will get our run !! Anyway back to topic has anyone done the aem fic and seen good gains ! They posted a new thing on fb in an accord forum a new tuning system someone made see results on that !! Damn j series

There were extensive talks on v6p about tuning with the FIC. Unfortunately, the tuning it offers is very limited but is the best thing the J has up to this point. As for gains, depends on your tuner and how well they know the FIC. Gains could be very minimal but your power curve could be optimized quite well. Either way, there is talk of a full on replacement for the J like Kpro (I think. Don't quote me on that). I really don't know as I don't have a J.

Lol, Pretty sure I'll definitely go out of my way to see that race, so I could laugh.

Back OT: I think Atlas.46 on v6p is about to use some sort of piggy back on his ride in these next few days.

^Yes, he is. Hopefully he has some info on that.

Flashpro yielded 8whp/5wtq for a FBO Type S 6MT. However, it gained 20whp or so at VTEC. The results are posted on Acurazine (i_love_cars). He said the car drives much better (no more issues anywhere) and it feels much faster overall.

Tim, your car is in another league  O0

And Shellz, we've been over this....you have an auto with less mods  ::) Don't be foolish lol.

I really hope this helps companies realize there is a market for J Series powered cars now.  I think when there is a good tuning solution, the aftermarket support will progress.  I would love to build a J powered car, but the fact that there has been no suitable tuning solution has held me back.


Not really, but thanks.

^ Yea, since Hondata supports 'some' of the J community, hopefully there will be some more aftermarket support. Someone already wired the harness into a 6G Accord running a J35a8, so it's definitely doable. I believe he was able to make it work for the 04-06 ECU, which means it could potentially be available for the J30a4/5 and 04-06 TL, considering we can use their ECU.

Most of the 'swapped' cars are cable throttle though, leaving a bit more to be desired. AEM came out with an EMS, but apparently it's not all that.

Yeah.  I'm not sure if the AEM is the best solution.  It really would be great to be able to use a cable tb with a swap car.  I wasn't aware that the flashpro only supported DBW tb's, but it makes sense.  That seems to be a limiting factor for anyone that has a built J.  DBW tb's only get so big when you use OEM, and I don't know of any reliable aftermarket ones available (yes I'm excluding Skunk2).  It would be nice to see a larger DBW tb available for the J, or the possibility to switch over to a cable tb.  Either way, this is really good to see things moving in this direction.

Since when would Junk2 be reliable? I know you're not saying it but that goes for any Junk2 fanboy that would happen to stumble on this conversation while trolling the interwebz.

That's why I excluded Skunk2 from the list of reliable products.  They have a reputation for low quality (i.e. - not reliable) products and poor customer service.  Anyway, back on topic again.  Is there anyone that has tried this FlashPro on their Accord yet with the 07-08 TL Type S ECU or even an Accord ECU?

None that I am aware of. I believe Paul is working on it though  ;D

Cough Cough. Altas is not the only one with the piggy back (RevBox). My battery died... So Optima Red tops here I come!

I hope there will be at least one more j series option on the market. Ken, avoid the Optima stuff. They were bought out and their manufacturing process was changed and the quality of their products is not what it used to be.

LMAO ahhh I love it and love my slushbox automatic  :flip:

Well, it is cracked, my 03 AV6 has ran both a 07TLS ECU and a 08 TL ECU. Am now making fully P&P harnesses that require no splicing/tapping/repinning of anytype, harness just plugs in.

WHAAAAAAAAT?!  That sounds awesome.  I may need to go back through and re-read all of this, but it sounds like some good progress has been made.

LOL, I am already making 6 harnesses for the 7th gen and 04/05 TL.

It's about time for us to get a real tuning solution, doug and I had a nice long conversation yesterday and he owns a 05 TL himself, LOL.

^ Like!

So how much is this going to run us?

One billion dollars! Muahahaha.

 >:D now this will be interesting Cant wait to see some results

The Harness is $400 for 05-07 AV6 and $420 for 03-04 AV6 and 04-05 TL (Have to also add a connector for the second ECT sensor that the 07 TLS and 7.5gen uses for cooling fan control. From there you just need a 07-08 TL ECU for MT guys. AT guys get screwed again, sorry, the 07-08 TL AT has a very different Hydralic system and control on it and is not compatible with the older AT. Although I do have one build in process where I am using a 07 MDX J37A1 and matting it with a 08 TL AT into a 04 AV6.

 :hail: :hail:
hopefully the AV6 will gain more power then the TL since our base maps are based on 87. So can't wait to see what the car would be like using a 91 mapping :)

http://hondata.com/flashpro_04-06_tl_03-07_accord_adapter_kit.html (http://hondata.com/flashpro_04-06_tl_03-07_accord_adapter_kit.html)

 :suspect:

This could be a long  story, but I'll summarize. I recently got flashpro installed with a base TL auto ECU. I had some issues with the unit not seeing the ecu and because of schedules I had to, surprisingly, drive for almost a week with the new ECU. This meant CELs out the ass and white knuckles when I go to shift to 6th gear. After contacting Hondata they made some suggestions on things to try like connectinfg the unit to the RDX and see if it sees the ECU, yes. Then rechecking the wiring. It turned out to be the 2 pins on the CAN wire adapter which goes into the OBDII connector. These pins don't always fit correctly and tends to get pushed up into the connector thus not making contact with the flashpro connector. Ken had to super glue his in.

Pins are in the 3rd row down. Notice how they look compare to the OEM ones
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I figured this was the best place to start being that if the ECU adapter has issues, Paul could not reprogram the key, connect a scan tool or run the car. Also Paul soldered the other end of the CAN adapter wires instead of taking the dash apart and messing with more connectors that can add more variables to debug.

So I got this programmed last Thursday night using the base 03-07 accord V6 MT calibration that Hondata provided. After my normal driving Thursday night and to and from work Friday I beleive the ECU has finished learning. The only CEL on now is P0489 which is related to the EGR valve (EDIT: ACTUALLY THIS CODE IS RELATED TO THE EVAP SYSTEM). When I had the code on my stock setup the car wouldn't idle and now it has no ill effect on the car. I still need to check emissions readiness now that the ECU has finished learning. If not, I have to look into what checks that can be turned off in the calibration and reload it (EDIT: DID SOME MORE DIGGING/READING INSTRUCTIONS COVER TO COVER, AND FOUND THAT THIS AS WELL AS A FEW OTHER CHECKS SHOULD BE TURNED OFF WHEN USING IN THE 04-06TL/03-07 ACCORD V6 MT).

Now for what I've noticed:
Performance= definite increase and consistent from about 1500rpm up
Idle= smooth (748-752rpm) (with SRI and IM spacer it would vary 700-800rpm)
Launge rpm= 5000rpm (*saw in the calibration not tested)
Redline=7000rpm (*saw in the calibration not tested)
VTEC= smooth engagement, no dip just before
Driveability= A HUGE IMPROVEMENT overall. For me, it takes a little getting used to because Hondata's calibration takes care of rev matching for you when shifting. I don't always want this. I have control issues, I know lol

NO MORE CELs

nice! If I pass all my finals by Weds I will be getting mine installed also. If I don't then its going in the FS. lol

I still need to desolder the IC and add the 3mm wire onto the ecu

here my ugly ass Desoldering and soldering of the bridge. Ill fix it tomorrow. The wiring was too thick. Will probably cut a paper clip and use that instead of 16 gauge wiring. thats all I had laying around.

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m77/thisaznboi88/IMAG0535_zpsh0nxvxs7.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/thisaznboi88/media/IMAG0535_zpsh0nxvxs7.jpg.html)

Yeah, A little heavy with the solder there bud. Try not to overflow when you fix it tomorrow.

Yeah I suck at soldering. lol

Okay round 2. Got some rosin so now it looks better

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m77/thisaznboi88/IMAG0536_zpsyaltthqc.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/thisaznboi88/media/IMAG0536_zpsyaltthqc.jpg.html)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m77/thisaznboi88/IMAG0537_zpshc8nvz67.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/thisaznboi88/media/IMAG0537_zpshc8nvz67.jpg.html)

Updated my post above.

Not sure where this should go because it's not Flashpro specific, but more Hondata in general. The latest news on their website is a warning against buying Hondata products on ebay. They are counterfeit products showing up. You can read the full articles on their website.

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=138273 (http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=138273)

http://www.justice.gov/usao/cac/Pressroom/2014/015.html (http://www.justice.gov/usao/cac/Pressroom/2014/015.html)

flashpro is awesome! The car drives so much better. It really complements all the bolt on and the PnP heads with camshaft

here is where I am at so far

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Meh. It's alright

 j/k
 ;)