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Title: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on February 19, 2009, 05:10:32 PM
I am debating on getting a set of lowering springs in a few weeks whenever my text money gets here. The problem is that i would like to keep the factory shocks/struts. MY question is how low of springs could i go without having to upgrade the shocks/struts? thanks for you input.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Abailey4 on February 19, 2009, 05:20:26 PM
You can put any springs you want on without having to upgrades the struts. We had the Tein S tech's which dropped about 1.8 in the rear and like 2 in the front. Maybe vice versa, it's been a while. However eventually you'll have to upgrade the struts due to the increased stress they'll be under. I would give it 6-12 months before you have to replace em. And you'll most likely need a rear camber kit even with springs, we didnt but most have needed the camber kit though.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on February 19, 2009, 05:24:04 PM
Thank you. I am looking at either the tanabe 210 springs or the Tein H-tech springs.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Abailey4 on February 19, 2009, 05:29:08 PM
If I remember correctly the H-tech's dont drop as far as the S tech's.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Abailey4 on February 19, 2009, 05:35:54 PM
Yeah after looking at Tein's website the S tech's will drop 1.8FR and 1.3Rear. The H tech's drop 1.2FR and .7 rear.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on February 19, 2009, 07:06:29 PM
I miss having a low car but icant afford the supercup kit at the moment. If i had the money i would go ahead and get teh supercup  kit or maybe a set of f2 coilovers.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Blackhawk on February 21, 2009, 03:54:25 PM
If you want a great drop that wont destroy your stock shocks and still look awesome. Go with Sprint

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL741279.jpg)

Rear
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL741282.jpg)

Front
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/xzel/SL741283.jpg)


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Skippy on February 21, 2009, 04:14:37 PM
Well to be honest you're thought process is somewhat flawed.  Instead of paying somebody to install the springs and camber kit and then having to replace the struts (which will essentially be 2 full suspension jobs), you should probably just save your money and do the job right the first time.  You'll spend half as much money that way...trust me it will be worth it if you wait.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on February 22, 2009, 03:04:04 PM
that is what i have been thinking about... i find myself randomly going back to neuspeeds website and looking at teh supercup kit. rocketstarter has it on his coupe and it seems to ride and handle great.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Blackhawk on February 22, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Quote from: "exelr8"
that is what i have been thinking about... i find myself randomly going back to neuspeeds website and looking at teh supercup kit. rocketstarter has it on his coupe and it seems to ride and handle great.

Excellent choice my friend


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on February 22, 2009, 03:21:06 PM
Thanks man... I think it is time I put my cheap ways aside. I was looking at mods from the point of get more mods for my money but I should deff wait til i get my bike sold to order more. lol


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Blackhawk on February 22, 2009, 03:57:43 PM
I shouldn't be one to talk. I am running eBay Coilovers on my HFP struts and to me it's been a godsend so far, but everyone's experience is different you know.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on February 22, 2009, 04:05:18 PM
I ran ebay drop springs on my old mustang and they rode pretty good with the stock shocks.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Skippy on February 22, 2009, 06:03:54 PM
The important thing to remember here is that we're all here to learn.  I'm glad that everybody is learning from the discussion.  Everybody has things they'd like to cheap out on or save money on, but you'll eventually learn that you get what you put into whatever you pay for.  I've learned that lesson, so have a lot of other people.  I'm here to try to minimize how many people spend 2x what they need to in order to accomplish what they want.  BTW car looks sexy as always, JT!


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on February 22, 2009, 07:36:05 PM
seth just turned me on to the skunk2 coilover kit which is roughly 100 more than the supercup kit. Does anyone have any experience with these?


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on February 22, 2009, 11:22:43 PM
or i could just spend all of my money and get these...

http://www.statracing.com/buy/ksport/pn/chd10-kp.asp (http://www.statracing.com/buy/ksport/pn/chd10-kp.asp)


anyone have any experience with the ksport coilovers?


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: timot_one on February 23, 2009, 01:38:30 AM
Nope, but that spring rate looks like it's high enough to give you a harsh ride if your roads aren't silky smooth all the time.  That's just my opinion though.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Skippy on February 23, 2009, 08:20:55 AM
A girl I used to know had Ksports on her 4cyl coupe and the ride was very stiff.  It's one of the reasons I don't really like coilovers.  If your car is not strictly for show (which hers was), or you're not swapping wheels out every 6 months, or you don't live in a winter weather state, you really don't need coilovers.  The Neuspeed supercup kit has enough height adjustment to suit the majority of applications.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: InFuMoUs on February 23, 2009, 06:28:44 PM
Ya I got the Ksport coilovers and they are stiff for the average daily driver. If ya roads aren't perfectly smooth, then you'll get a bumpy ride like Chino said "bucking like a bronco." Roads here in NY are horrible, but I know where and how to maneuver around the good and bad streets.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on February 23, 2009, 08:18:36 PM
Thanks for the input guys. I have been reading up on the skunk2's and they dont have any damping settings... I think the best way to go will be like all of you have said, go with the supercup kit. Since the roads here suck like hell and most of them i have to drie there are no other ways to get to work.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: seththekorean on February 23, 2009, 08:30:52 PM
http://ultrarev.com/home.php?cat=347 (http://ultrarev.com/home.php?cat=347)
have you seen these? i think i posted on the SECM thread. they're eibach supercup kits. just an idea.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on February 23, 2009, 11:12:59 PM
i think it drops roughly 1.8 inches all around but we shall never know as it dont say lol good find but i thknk i am just going to go with the supercup kit since you can adjust the stiffness/softness of it the car wont see much track time until it is paid for so i think everyone is right... no need for coilovers atthe moment


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: rocketstarter on February 28, 2009, 08:57:07 PM
I'll let you drive the car on different dampening adjustments @ the alabama meet if your leg's good by then


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: toinkee69 on March 02, 2009, 05:45:31 PM
my history w/ stock shocks and lowering springs are just fine. i used to have tanabe DF210's and he ride was like OEM. now i'm dropped on Ground Control coilovers, the ride's changed but not bad at all. i've had em on for about 6mos now, still running good.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on March 05, 2009, 12:37:39 PM
I ended up going with Blackhawk's suggestion and ordered sprint springs they will be here today and installed on saturday


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: toinkee69 on March 05, 2009, 04:17:03 PM
don't forget to post pics.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on March 05, 2009, 05:18:32 PM
i sure do plan on it, rocketstarter and i are going to make a few DIY's saturday


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Abailey4 on March 05, 2009, 06:22:35 PM
Congrats. Cant wait to check it out. A few Diy's ehhh? What else you got goin on?


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on March 05, 2009, 06:33:19 PM
well i just found out we wont be able to do his fog lights they wont be in in time but i think we are going to do his seatbelt bar and harnasses and sparco hoodpins unless he already did those


Hey is there anyone in the MDVACM Squad near fredricksburg,VA?


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Abailey4 on March 05, 2009, 06:41:40 PM
I'm about 30 minutes from Fredericksburg


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on March 05, 2009, 06:55:34 PM
oh thats awesome i will be driving up there at the end of may


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: Abailey4 on March 05, 2009, 07:23:42 PM
Oh ok, that's close enough that we should be able to pull a decent amount of members together for a meet. Keep us updated and post in our thread as the time nears so we wont forget.


Title: Re: Stock Shocks/Struts
Post by: exelr8 on March 05, 2009, 08:10:11 PM
alright that sound good i am looking forward to it


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