I didn't see anyone else say they have this so I thought I'd tell you about mine.

***The plug I got had a shorter magnet on it than the one pictured which is comparable to the one I got for the tranny.


Got a set of skunk2 magnetic oil and tranny filter plugs $26-32$ shipped

at 96,000mi and on the first oil change (5,000) since I put the oil plug in the was a noticeable build up (2mm) of shavings on the tip. 

Havent used the tranny plug yet but will next flush.  That's already magnetic though; should be the same deal.

Yeah; apparently there are where this woman lives.

You can see her looking at it and reaching in to push it; what does "FIRE" on a red button mean...let's find out.

In Case of Fire: 

http://www.break.com/index/dumb-woman-pushes-fire-button.html

I love women....

Ok, let me elaborate on the intentions of my post.

I wanted to see what people thought, and I wanted to have a discussion about how or why people felt the way they do and establish some truths about the topic.

Like I said I have been leaving the car running while re-fueling and I was surprised that most people prefer to turn their vehicle off.  It turned into people calling me out for stupidity and I tried to defend my actions as acceptable.

What I was ardently trying to assert was that leaving your car running was not physically dangerous, not that that is the better method.  I did research and found that the evap system on a car can throw a code while the tank is not at vacuum, but nowhere did it say that leaving the car running increased the chances of an ignition.  My 2005 V6 did not throw a code (Although I assume it would if I drove without the cap on) so I assume your V6s and maybe your I4s would also not throw any codes.  The arguments for turing your vehicle off were that you saved fuel, to prevent the car from slipping out of gear, and that it prevented you from throwing a code and requiring up to a $150.00 service charge for the dealer to diagnostic your car and turn the code off.  Those of us with our own diagnostic tools or access to a nearby Advance Auto Parts would be able to clear the code ourselves if indeed a code was thrown.

With the only cases of ignition I've found being related to a static electricity discharge I failed to find any information that explained how leaving your car running would increase the chances of a static or other type of ignition.

Most of the responses I got didn't pose any real commentary on the issue other than that they would rather not risk it or that I was an idiot.  Mike did bring up that it could damage the evap system and require an expensive repair - which I had not considered before and appreciate.

I like this forum and the people in it, and didn't mean to come off as an asshole or know it all.  I value the information that it has to offer.  Please forgive me for my trespasses, and let us continue a meaningful exchange on this topic and others.

I don't believe in fate, and I'm not scared of ghost stories.  This shit doesn't happen anymore.

If the cars evap system doesn't work while not at vacuum then there is still the gas pumps vapor recovery system.  Most of the inccidents when there were ignitions were in years past and fuel pump manufactures have advanced their vapor recovery systems since these incidents.  Now if you're overfilling after the pump clicks there might be more fuel in the air, and not releasing built up static or wearing garments that produce extra static can still ignite fuel and air, but if ignitions were a more common occurence don'you think we'd be hearing about it more; I'm sure people leave their cars running accidentally all the time.  

-And since static charges are the predominant cause of ignitions, why does leaving your car running increase the risk of one?

Why are you guys so scared?

For me that small amount of fuel is a convienience or luxury charge just like when you pay more for something at a convienience store.  Plus it's one less time you have to start your engine and for the sake of argument lets say that my V6 gets 60 minutes per gallon at idle; with a gallon cost of $3.00 I only spent  $0.25 on my 5 min fill up.  In the heat of summer or the cold of winter it's a no brainer convienience charge for me; I've got a ton of quarters.  If you're that worried about gas/money you can forget about hitting v-tec.

You're not wrong for doing what you do; I just wanted to explain myself.

One day I left my car running while I went to pre-pay for gas.  I'd left my stereo on and forgot my car was running so I fueled up.  I then realized my car was running and that the check engine light hadn't come on because the computer didn't sense the tank going to vacuum.  I've since left my car running while re-fueling and done a little research to see what the reasons are to turn your vehicle off while fueling.

Some reasons to turn your vehicle off that I've read and my take on them are:

-save gas (who cares; car is at idle and it stays nice and air conditioned
-fuel pump works harder when tank is not pressurized (not sure how much this wears the pump)
-Static electricity can cause fumes to ignite (our cars have EVAP control systems and it seems to me that there isn't any more risk of this when the car is running)
---See video in link of a girl having trouble pumping gas and having her pump ignite because of static discharge.
http://www.pei.org/PublicationsResources/SafetyResources/StopStaticCampaign.aspx
-----I doubt  this would happen on our cars because of the advances with gasoline fillers and the evap control systems on the cars and gas pumps, but if that's the worst that'll happen I'd prefer to keep my car at a comfortable tempurature, and possibly deal with an unexpected flame thrower - I doubt I'd be wearing a cute fuzzy sweater though.


What do you guys think?