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Re: How To: Change Transmission Oil (6MT)
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January 12, 2012, 10:39:45 PM »
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Re: How To: Change Transmission Oil (6MT)
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January 13, 2012, 07:52:38 AM »
Woha, hold up here guys.
There is a big piece to this missing. On the front of the trans is a 10mm head overfill bolt, it will have a aluminum crush washer under it. That needs to be removed while filling the trans, fluid will come out of it when the trans is full. If you over fill the trans you will get fluid in the clutch housing and foul the friction disc since the breather tube is in the clutch housing.
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January 13, 2012, 12:42:40 PM »
I know which bolt you are talking about, it is sort of above the drain bolt, right? So that bolt should be removed when filling and once it starts dripping is when you have enough fluid? I removed mine the next day after I filled it to check and I had fluid coming out so I put it back in. I guess I should let it drain out some more.
I can snap a picture of that bolt if you guys want want me to.
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January 13, 2012, 02:06:59 PM »
Yes, you need to let the fluid continue to drain from that bolt until it stops, that is proper fill level.
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Re: How To: Change Transmission Oil (6MT)
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Quote from: accordguy04 on December 05, 2011, 11:58:30 AM
I asked the guy at Honda what the change interval was and he said 30k miles. I had my car for over 45k and I never changed it, and I have no idea the last time it was changed. So I actually did the change twice. I changed the fluid, drove the car around for like 20 minutes to get the fluid movin around and then did the change again. Just as a little bit of extra insurance.
The Haynes repair manual says to do the fluid change every 120k miles so you shouldn't have much worry about it being over due. Though the manual doesn't say anything about the fill hole you guys are showing. It only refers to the one that Paul mentioned that your supposed to fill till it leaks out of. The top one would be much easier to fill from though, especially for anyone with an aftermarket intake. But thanks for the write up guys, I'll probably be doing this next weekend. I'm sure it hasn't been done yet and I'm just over 60k.
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January 13, 2012, 03:31:43 PM »
Ya when I picked up the trans fluid from Honda and asked him what the interval was he said and I quote "Ummm like a long time, he said about 100k" but when he saw the car he said "If you drive it hard more often then not, he personally suggests 60-70k"
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January 13, 2012, 03:44:27 PM »
Dude at my dealer said 30k... dick... him not you.
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I should have known that such an easy job would turn into a PITA. Started this job an hour ago thinking it would only be a half an hour job and I still haven't even drained the old fluid yet. I can't get the top fill bolt out of the tranny. I can only put so much torque on it before I'm afraid my extension is gonna snap because it is twisting so much. I'm soaking it with pb blaster now hoping that helps.
On a side note, I have no dealers within about a half hour drive so I didn't get the honda tranny fluid. I went with royal purple synthetic 10w-40. I know the manual says you can run either 10w-30 or 10w-40 but do you think it matters that I went to synthetic?
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January 20, 2012, 08:57:52 PM »
I wouldn't run Royal Purple. Since you're having trouble with the fill bolt, have the closest dealership order the fluid for you. I've used 3/8" extensions and not broken them. If you're really worried about it, use a 1/2" extension instead.
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Quote from: timot_one on January 20, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
I wouldn't run Royal Purple. Since you're having trouble with the fill bolt, have the closest dealership order the fluid for you. I've used 3/8" extensions and not broken them. If you're really worried about it, use a 1/2" extension instead.
... the hole on the filler cap is a 3/8... a 1/2 would be too big.
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Quote from: accordguy04 on January 20, 2012, 10:24:29 PM
Quote from: timot_one on January 20, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
I wouldn't run Royal Purple. Since you're having trouble with the fill bolt, have the closest dealership order the fluid for you. I've used 3/8" extensions and not broken them. If you're really worried about it, use a 1/2" extension instead.
... the hole on the filler cap is a 3/8... a 1/2 would be too big.
I'm pretty sure that he meant using a 1/2" drive set instead of 3/8" drive, not the size of the actual socket itself.
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Re: Re: How To: Change Transmission Oil (6MT)
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January 20, 2012, 10:30:37 PM »
You don't use a socket, You plug the cube at the end of the extension into the hole on the filler cap, therefore a 1/2 extension would be too big.
Edit: Unless he means a 1/2 extension with a 1/2 to 3/8 converter on the end...
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Re: How To: Change Transmission Oil (6MT)
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January 20, 2012, 10:56:17 PM »
Sorry, I keep forgetting that this is a J Series. I'm used to K series transmissions. The bolt for the filler and drain on my tranny use a 17mm socket. Only the overflow uses the 3/8" drive. Anyway, use the extension and breaker bar if you need to. Honestly, it takes a bit of force to crack them loose.
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January 20, 2012, 11:57:59 PM »
I had a lot of trouble breaking my filler bolt free as well. I ended up spraying some PB blaster and letting it soak for a good ten minutes then I used a breaker bar with an extension on it like Tim said and pushed as hard as I could until the bolt broke loose.
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January 21, 2012, 11:38:11 AM »
I did end up getting it. I went up to a half inch drive with a 3/8's adapter, a breaker bar and a three foot pipe. It still took nearly all the force I could have applied. I just didn't feel comfortable with putting that much torque on the bolt and housing. For having around 65k miles on it, I could still partially see through the oil as it was draining. I was surprised how good it looked. One problem with the overflow hole is its diameter is too small. I filled up till it started coming out...well it took about two hours to stop coming out of the hole. It's so small that it wouldn't let the oil come out in a stream. Instead one drip would come out at a time. On a side note, I thought you guys said elsewhere that the 6speed trannys had factory magnetic drain plugs. If we do, there was not a single spec of debris on mine, which I guess is a good thing. I was just expecting to have something to clean up.
And of course, just like every other job recently, I snap the last bolt to put it. That stupid 10mm overflow bolt just twisted the head right off. It had to have been damaged ahead of time. It came out without much pressure and when I went to put it back in, it barely snugged up before twisting off. Now I have the threads stuck in the tranny and I really don't want to drill it out...
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