Need build idea for my k24a4

[thisaznboi88]

Yeah.. Way costly. like I said before I really don't want to drop 6k into my car. I would love to swap to Mt but damn 3k... LoL I think I'll just do Cams and all bolt on with a tunes and be done with it. I need to ask cham how much is it to kpro when I provide the ecu. I am trying to get a EP3 ecu or a base rsx.

So basically here is my build idea

BC stage 2 cams =500
BC springs 250  OR  BC dual spring =325
BC TI retainers =200
kpro + harness 1350 OR AEM FIC + harness =500
Tuning 185/hr guessing 3hr tops to tune everything = 555
Labor for putting Cambs 100/hr maybe 6hr? =600

this is like maybe... 180-200whp with all bolt on
Labor and tuning is a killer...

So about 2200~3000 at most

man head swap looking good right now..
RSX or TSX head 600~700
TSX piston with rods and rings 200
rsx-s oil pump 150
timing chain 100
head gasket 120
kpro + harness 1350
labor to put it all in ?? 1500 bucks?
Tuning 185/hr umm 5hrs? 925

this is make 250whp for sure will all bolt on

~5000 maybe Labor and tuning is a killer here also...

3rd opinion would be supercharger either Jackson Racing or Craftwerk

Used JR 1500-2000
RDX injecor with pig tails 140
Hondata kpro 1350
adaptor plate 120
Tuning 925?

Labor I can have my auto mac friends help me put it in.

 I am also missing other stuff like injectors, wide band o2 and some other stuff, am can't recall from the top of my head. Anyways I'll see how much I can make this summer and go from there.

Skip how much are you spending for your build?

[BliNx197]

ummm,.. 6k for a k20/k24 frank is about right after all is said and done, and yea you are missing a lot of the parts you'll need in that list and as for kpro idk if the ep3 one can be kproed think they're  all rsx ecus, but im no kpro guru so someone else will give a better answer,..

as for stg.2 cams idk if those are too aggressive for a4 pistons, prolly better to just a2 swap and go from there but $$$ so yea,.. kpro and bolt ons will prolly get you to 180-190whp I only say this because abailey4 dynoed around 145whp AT without tuning, sooo,.. yea, but don't discourage im just speculating

[Abailey4]

^ Yeah that was with all standard bolt on's, no Kpro, cold winter day and a dyno jet.

[thisaznboi88]

yeah I know I am missing a lot of stuff. I just went from the top of my head. I have the complete list saved from k20a.org

As for the dyno it was only 145 with I/H/E correct? no pullies, tsx im, hondata gasket?

As for the cams I got word back from BC they said its about 25+ hp gain and should work with the k24a4 and k20a3 since they only have 2 lobe vtec. So being close to 180-190whp should be within range. But I really need to see if I can cut a deal with them on labor because I am going to have the place that does the tuning do the installation also. I wish I had to the knowledge to do my own cam installation

[BliNx197]

IDK if Levi is on this forum but Ryann just texted me and told me he made 190whp with all bolt-ons and kpro. But as for 25+ hp from Cams with kpro definately yes but idk about any other EMS. Id go with kpro since your looking to do internal work and thats gonna be your biggest gain, as for Derricks ride hes got the same setup Im pushing so pretty much everybolt on possible minus Hondata IMG and Ingalls Tq. Dampener. Well atleast all the common stuff and hes AT like Levi so that should give you a base estimate.

[Knocturnal84]

with the Kpro you can advance your cams...my ems will be aem and the tuner said all he can do is retard the cams with the F/IC

BC told me the same thing they said its about 25+ hp gain

the install will be done by skippy and a friend of his(acura/honda certified technicians)

tunning will be done by another shop in orlando

[BliNx197]

^Yea! Thats one of the big reasons I pulled away from a NA build, I already had the FIC and not having the ability to run kpro conventionally unless I switch things around with my car is just maddening... So the FIC shall stay, BTW knocturnal how long have the cams been in planning? I remember back on Gen7.1 you had this planned but thought you might have given up on it

[Abailey4]

yeah I know I am missing a lot of stuff. I just went from the top of my head. I have the complete list saved from k20a.org

As for the dyno it was only 145 with I/H/E correct? no pullies, tsx im, hondata gasket?

As for the cams I got word back from BC they said its about 25+ hp gain and should work with the k24a4 and k20a3 since they only have 2 lobe vtec. So being close to 180-190whp should be within range. But I really need to see if I can cut a deal with them on labor because I am going to have the place that does the tuning do the installation also. I wish I had to the knowledge to do my own cam installation

The dyno was with CAI, headers, dual exhaust, tsx IM, UR pullies, grounding kit and no hondata gasket. However my 2.5" exhaust piping may have loss me a couple horses.

[Skippy]

Blinx I don't know if you're talking about the same Ryann from Virginia that I'm thinking of, but Timmy tells me he has a J30...so no Kpro there.

Just for comparison purposes, my car with all available bolt-ons made 153whp and 154tq on a 94 degree day without Kpro.  That's the difference between an AT and a 6MT.

[Anonymous]

Blinx I don't know if you're talking about the same Ryann from Virginia that I'm thinking of, but Timmy tells me he has a J30...so no Kpro there.

Just for comparison purposes, my car with all available bolt-ons made 153whp and 154tq on a 94 degree day without Kpro.  That's the difference between an AT and a 6MT.

Skippy just wanted to clarify that I did texted him that if I recall correctly in the G7A Classic, I said to him that Levi from NECM made 190 whp on Kpro with all Bolt-ons with his AT.  correct me if I'm wrong about his dyno results.

[BliNx197]

Yea! Ive always been skeptical to how much hp these boltons are making but, apparently its not a waste! Thats exciting to see! Hey Skip, with the Okada Projects are there any huge differences with tehm? I asked a question on G7A and we all know that site is a bit amateur for perfomance knowledge. But yea looking into these later,.. after that tho? Tuning?

[Abailey4]

The Okada's is one other thing Levi had that we dont that I forgot about when he did his dyno.

[thisaznboi88]

190whp on an auto sounds really good. anyways are u all doing dyno jets or mustang dyno?

[Abailey4]

Mine was a dyno jet if I remember correct.  I'll check the sheet sometime between tonight and tomorrow.

[Knocturnal84]

^Yea! Thats one of the big reasons I pulled away from a NA build, I already had the FIC and not having the ability to run kpro conventionally unless I switch things around with my car is just maddening... So the FIC shall stay, BTW knocturnal how long have the cams been in planning? I remember back on Gen7.1 you had this planned but thought you might have given up on it

hey BliINx197  i aquired all the the parts but now i am waiting for the summer for the big install and tune...i was busy with design this semester and i was Pledging Alpho Rho Chi so i didnt have no me time

i cant give up on this project at all

i bought all of the parts $500 for my NA project from k24red  
BC stage 2 cams
BC dual spring
BC TI retainers
BC valve spring seats

F/IC-8 cost me $575 and the PNP harness was $229