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Title: Heater/Air Conditioning help (Problem Solved)
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on December 21, 2009, 03:49:56 PM
So I seem to be having a problem with my cool air (A/C) ever since they broke into my ride and tore apart my dash to get to my aftermarket radio. I have the Metra Turbo kit installed. I have heat thank god in this weather but I have NO cold air when turning the knob to that function! I noticed a orange wire on the back of the Metra kit that wasn't connected to anything but found out it is to illuminate the Metra console. The other thing is that I noticed from the Metra 70-7864-DZ Wire Harness to make my dual climate control single for the Metra kit there is a white/green wire going from the harness into the fuse box under the hood....

I tried to install back my oem h/u and I had music but then no function of the controls (hot/cold) would work at all. Im guessing the wire connected to the fuse box is playing a role in that but im not sure.

if anyone is familiar with this or why I am having this problem please chime in, I know this is going to suck come warm/hot weather if I dont have cold air  or A/C working lolz. I know we are far from enjoying warm weather but it is bothering me and I like to have things fixed. Since I have after market crap in the car I know Honda wont wanna look at it cuz they will say I did something wrong or the person who installed everything did something wrong.

Maybe my thermostat went bad? Could this cuz the problem?

Thanks


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: InFuMoUs on December 21, 2009, 04:30:56 PM
Trying to figure out electrical problems can be annoying, but I would check the fuse that controls the ac. Maybe that douchebag ripped a wire and it probably shorted something. I'm not sure which one right not cuz I dont have the cover in front of me at the moment, but when I do I'd let you know if someone else doesn't chime in.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on December 21, 2009, 06:41:29 PM
Quote from: "InFuMoUs"
Trying to figure out electrical problems can be annoying, but I would check the fuse that controls the ac. Maybe that douchebag ripped a wire and it probably shorted something. I'm not sure which one right not cuz I dont have the cover in front of me at the moment, but when I do I'd let you know if someone else doesn't chime in.

Yea I looked under the cover but it doesn't say which one.... I did see a few snowflake looking icons. It got dark on me som I will trouble shoot some more tomorrow!


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on December 23, 2009, 08:18:52 AM
Well this morning I remembered to look at the interior fuse box and im missing 4 fuses....? Wonder why? The only time I opened it was to run my power wire behind the panel into the firewall.

The fuses im missing according to the # on the cover are:

#1 (15a) DBW -what is this for?
#3 (10a) Day Light -what is this for?
#12 (7.5a) RR Fog im guessing this is my rear window defogger
#33 (7.5a)  HAC OP -what is this for?

Would any of these have been pulled out for any reason?


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: AV6NHBP6SPD on December 23, 2009, 08:58:22 AM
Quote from: "CrazyCreashunz"
Well this morning I remembered to look at the interior fuse box and im missing 4 fuses....? Wonder why? The only time I opened it was to run my power wire behind the panel into the firewall.

The fuses im missing according to the # on the cover are:

#1 (15a) DBW -what is this for?
#3 (10a) Day Light -what is this for?
#12 (7.5a) RR Fog im guessing this is my rear window defogger
#33 (7.5a)  HAC OP -what is this for?

Would any of these have been pulled out for any reason?

#1 Drive by wire throttle body? you have regular TB?
#3 DRL? this is only for canadian models and probably for 06-07 accords
#12 could be rear fog lights?
#33 is accessory so you might not have it

check #30 IG HAC fuse


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on December 23, 2009, 01:25:21 PM
Thanks Misha and I was figuring the Day Light was for day time running lights which my car didn't come with.  I will check #30 when my brother comes home he has all them small fuses we bought in his car that punk! Lolz...


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: Icebox on December 23, 2009, 01:45:38 PM
buy a test light, it makes it mush easie to trouble shoot the problem and only cost about 5 bucks


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: timot_one on December 27, 2009, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: "Icebox"
buy a test light, it makes it mush easie to trouble shoot the problem and only cost about 5 bucks

A digital multimeter is a much better tool to use actually.  Test lights are only good for testing for 12 volts and can damage sensitive electrical components.  Billy, your trouble could be a number of things.  It could be the fact that the thief fucked up your wiring, or it could be a coincidence that your a/c isn't working.  Did you say you had the same problem with your OEM HVAC also?


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on December 28, 2009, 10:47:57 AM
Yea when I installed back the oem unit only the radio part worked, no air hot or cold what so ever. Im guessing the  wire that was run from the metra wire harness (to convert the dual climate control into single) to the fuse box under the hood is tricking the ECU somehow. So I put back the broken metra kit because atleast I get heat. My fiance for xmas bought me a new metra kit some I will install it this week or next and see if that fix's the problem. I have checked all fuses and im hoping that maybe when they popped out my radio since they ripped the metra kit face plate  off that maybe the screw driver or whatever they use shorted out the circiut board on the metra kit. Im crossing my fingers.

I highly doubt the a/c just went out because it was fine until the  incident. When I turn the knob from hot to cold without pushing the a/c button I still only get hot air!

Would there be a problem with the thermostat? Or if there was I would get no heat as well.... never ran into a problem like this before.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: InFuMoUs on December 28, 2009, 04:51:21 PM
I could be wrong, but I dont think the thermostat has anything to do with the heat. I always thought the thermostat controled the flow of coolant when the engine needed it. The a/c compressor is what controls the hot and cold air. If it's not the fuses, it could be that or there's no freon in the system. Hopefully, it's just the metra kit and nothing major.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on January 14, 2010, 12:56:26 PM
Well the new Metra kit has been installed and no luck on the cold air still only heat. I checked all fuses and they seem to be fine. I will check relays next. If that is ok I will go ahead and have a dye test performed to see if there is a leak of some sort. If all else fails I will probably have to replace the a/c compressor.

Also on a side note that maybe this all happened when I left my lights on one day and shorted out my h/u when I charged the car!

I have googled the topic and have been searching online for answers and hopefully it is a relay in the fuse box. A lot of people have had the same problem and just replaced the relay. They also say if the compressor went out that when I switch to a/c I would here a clanking noise. (Just some food for thought of my findings)

Question: will this effect me passing inspection? I have to get a new inspection before march 2010 rolls in.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrackerTeg on January 14, 2010, 01:09:37 PM
Not having a/c? I don't see how that'd affect your inspection if its not a safety feature and not needed. Its a convenience feature so it shouldn't affect you.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on January 14, 2010, 03:48:28 PM
Quote from: "CrackerTeg"
Not having a/c? I don't see how that'd affect your inspection if its not a safety feature and not needed. Its a convenience feature so it shouldn't affect you.

Had to ask, cuz it would be my luck  :problem:


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrackerTeg on January 14, 2010, 08:23:51 PM
No worries man. I'd understand something like your brake lights not working or something like that making you fail inspection but not having a/c is not one of those things. I wouldn't sweat it.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on January 14, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
Yea thanks Z, well I checked and swapped relay's to make sure and nada... so I checked my waranty and looks like im still covered for any a/c, heating issues! So I will be contacting Honda to set up an appointment and let them figure it out. It has to be something other than the obvious. I might have a leak somewhere or the compressor is gone. By the looks of it that might be the case. It looks as if something leaked all over it and it has grease all over it!

Will let everyone know soon the outcome.... stay tuned!


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrackerTeg on January 14, 2010, 08:44:59 PM
That sounds like good news if your HVAC are still covered. Definitely take advantage of that shit. Keep us posted.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on March 08, 2010, 12:14:47 PM
Well I took the ride to Honda this morning and my a/c compressor is good and all but they told me they are not getting a response from the inside controls. A vent is suppose to open when the knob is turned to cold or a/c button is clicked. They can't go any further than that since I took out the "Honda" radio... Sucks so now I will have to figure something out or just stay without a/c. Thank god summer is only 2 months and I really don't ever use the a/c.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: slipkord on March 08, 2010, 12:17:35 PM
Damn that sucks Billy, hope you find out whats wrong with it. Be glad you dont live down here. I was without a/c for a few months, almost killed me.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: timot_one on March 08, 2010, 01:03:24 PM
Where is your OEM h/u Billy?  Have you tried testing it with an OEM unit?  I think whoever installed your dual to single climate adapter, fucked things up, which was exacerbated by the chach that stole your stereo.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on March 08, 2010, 01:32:05 PM
I tried to reinstall the oem h/u already and got nothing, no heat or cold air! So I installed the new Metra Kit. When I originally had the Metra Kit installed 2 years ago everything worked fine up until this past xmas when they stole the after market h/u. Ima try and trouble shoot the harness itself. Im going to search for the harness diagram and see if I can pin point the exact wires that control the unit/vent to open/close. Maybe something in the harness got pulled out or burnt from a short. We will see when I have some time for this. Im not going to stress it cuz otherwise I will have the dash apart trying to figure this out lolz...


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: Mike on March 08, 2010, 01:39:27 PM
I would think that they may have pulled something loose when they broke in. If I remember right they messed shit up pretty good.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: timot_one on March 08, 2010, 02:25:25 PM
You're using a new Metra upper dash kit, right?


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: slipkord on March 08, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: "CrazyCreashunz"
I have the Metra Turbo kit installed


 :thumbup:


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on March 08, 2010, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: "lavalleemike"
I would think that they may have pulled something loose when they broke in. If I remember right they messed shit up pretty good.
Correctamondo!  :thumbup:

Quote from: "timot_one"
You're using a new Metra upper dash kit, right?
Yes upper and also lower kit as well.


...Well going on my previous post and the weather being so darn nice I pulled apart the center dash and checked the wiring harness from the Metra Kit and the factory harness. I discovered a loose wire that came out from behind the electrical tape where all the wires was taped. I unraveled the electrical tape and saw that 3 more wires were cut in half. I guess from when they pulled the radio out. I reconnected the wires and taped them with electrical tape individually and then as a whole as it was. I reprogrammed the Metra Kit (hold a/c button down for about 8 seconds or until the green light flashes) and presto everything is 100%.

Holla!!! Sometimes you gotta just figure it out yourself... I didn't dig deep enough before cuz it was cold out but with the weather the way it is today I had to take advantage and it paid off.

Thanks to everyone that chimed in on this thread it really helped.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help (Problem Solved)
Post by: Mike on March 08, 2010, 05:31:29 PM
Glad to hear it's all set.


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: timot_one on March 08, 2010, 06:59:10 PM
Glad it worked out Billy.  You did solder or use crimp connectors for those loose wires, right?

Quote from: "slipkord"
Quote from: "CrazyCreashunz"
I have the Metra Turbo kit installed
:thumbup:


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help
Post by: CrazyCreashunz on March 08, 2010, 07:49:11 PM
Quote from: "timot_one"
Glad it worked out Billy.  You did solder or use crimp connectors for those loose wires, right?

 :shifty: uUm no, I have to wait for my brother who has the soldering kit. I will though! Im just so happy everything works...  :grin:


Title: Re: Heater/Air Conditioning help (Problem Solved)
Post by: timot_one on March 08, 2010, 10:54:32 PM
Good man.


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